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Alvin Karpis
11-08-2009, 01:53 PM
I, for one, would like to see some of the guns that the Zootshooters from around the country use in their matches. I haven't been lucky enough to attend a match yet but I'll start with what I would use under the current rules.

Maybe my New Service with 4 1/2 inch barrel in 38 wcf caliber with my Remington model 14 1/2R carbine in matching caliber?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/NewService001.jpg

Alvin Karpis
11-08-2009, 02:03 PM
Or if the rules change then maybe a 351 Winchester with some original 10-round mags and a 1925 era 1911 as a combo?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/19071925scene.jpg

Ghostsoldier
11-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Those sure are some purty weapons, AK....:)...I'm fond of that 1911...
Rob

johnh
11-11-2009, 06:53 AM
Neat pics guys! There were some truly lovely firearms in that era. Anything John Browning touched was beautiful in my eyes.

:D

John

Alvin Karpis
11-11-2009, 03:20 PM
Thank you for the kind words. I'm surprised that no one else wants to share? I've got some more - how about these for a change of pace? Snub nose 38 with ivory grips and a Remington model 11 riot (I know there are no shotguns in Zootshooting but I still have hope).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/ImperialStetson005.jpg

Or a 1902 Colt Military in 38 acp?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Speedmaster78002-1.jpg

The Hustler
11-12-2009, 01:29 AM
Very nice Alvin! I'd share my Zoot Shooters' guns but it'd look like an Auto-Ordnance ad ;)

Story
11-12-2009, 10:38 PM
For right now, some inspiration - found this online, a Remington Model 11 made in 1928 with a factory 10 round magazine tube. That was for 'market hunters', who commercially harvested fowl for restaurants and hotels.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/1928REM11markethunter10rdX.jpg

Alvin Karpis
11-13-2009, 07:31 AM
Hustler - I don't see anything wrong about showing some Kahr products used in Zootshooting. I've been looking at their Tommys for a while now.

Story - good to hear from you man! (I'm Levallois over at the Fedora Lounge) - and that Model 11 - wow! - what a powerhouse that would be.

Ghostsoldier
11-13-2009, 07:45 AM
Creepy - That 1902 military is simply beautiful....

I'm like The Hustler....I've got a M1A1 AO Thompson, but I'm not a Zoot (yet)...but, I'd still like to see The Hustler's guns!
Rob

Alvin Karpis
11-13-2009, 08:25 AM
Ghostrider - I'd love to see your Thompson too!

And in the too much time on my hands category - another artsy-fartsy photo (it's raining outside and I can't do my chores). Savage M1915 (hammerless and made for only one year) in 32acp.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Savage1915001-1.jpg

Ghostsoldier
11-13-2009, 08:36 AM
My artsy-farsty contributions...;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ghostsoldier/My%20Impression%20stuff/My%20Weapons/IM000952.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ghostsoldier/My%20Impression%20stuff/My%20Weapons/IM000956.jpg
Rob

Alvin Karpis
11-14-2009, 08:19 AM
Ghostrider - nice Thompson! I'll never be able to afford a full auto like yours but I'll have a semi some day.

AK

The Hustler
11-15-2009, 11:52 AM
Okay, here ya go...

My Auto-Ordnance 1927A1 Thompson and 1911A1
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/nntndorlr/zoot_guns010sm.jpg

The M1903 used as a "guest gun" in the 2009 Championship match and same 1911A1
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/nntndorlr/zoot_guns005sm.jpg

Ghostsoldier
11-16-2009, 09:49 AM
Ghostrider - nice Thompson! I'll never be able to afford a full auto like yours but I'll have a semi some day.

AK
Never fear, Alvin...mine's a semi...I've got the "full auto look" for about 1200 bucks total invested! :D

My next purchase will be the '27A like Hustler's...
Rob

Story
11-17-2009, 09:23 AM
Story - good to hear from you man! (I'm Levallois over at the Fedora Lounge) - and that Model 11 - wow! - what a powerhouse that would be.

1. Likewise.

2. Stay tuned. ;)

3. For the rest of you mugs that're wondering what we're talking about, it's a Golden Age oriented forum, primarily oriented towards 1930s fashions (hence, the Fedora). You want an authentic look, it's a great place to check out. Seriously, if you're going to shoot this period you need a hat and this is the best place to read up on them.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/TreasureoftheSierraMadreHumphrey2.jpg

I'd link you to the Zootshooting thread, but it's in a Members Only folder. How about 'Concealed Weapons fashion'? :D
Concealed (Weapon) Fashion - The Fedora Lounge (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=36169)

Story
11-17-2009, 09:26 AM
This'd be appropriate, if I was playing a rumrunner on the Canadian border : 1916 Webley Mk VI in the original .455 chambering, with (faux) ivory grips and riding in an Ostrich-skin shoulder holster.

Pimpin', eh?
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/MkVIivory.jpg

Ghostsoldier
11-17-2009, 11:56 AM
The FL is great...been there since 2007 myself...and it's a never-ending source of information for vintage-inspired folks....:)
Rob

Alvin Karpis
11-20-2009, 08:53 AM
Ditto praise for Fedora Lounge - it's definately for people like me who never was taught how to wear more formal clothes, vintage clothes and hats.

Ghostsoldier - your semi-M1A1 intrigues me - it's obviously a SBR and had to be registered with the govt, right? What kind of hassle was that? And, what was the sequence - i.e, do you tell the feds through your application that you want to create one of these and once they approve then you do, or ? Thanks!

AK

The Hustler
11-21-2009, 11:12 AM
Alvin,

Auto-Ordnance sells Thompsons that are already registered as SBRs. You can purchase one through a Class III dealer. After you purchase the SBR you have to fill out a form and have your sheriff sign it or register it under a LLC. You then mail it to the BATFE with a check for $200. After they approve your request (this can take several weeks or months) they send the form back to the dealer. The form has a big "postage stamp" on it that shows $200 not $.44. The stamp has the serial number hand written on it. There is also a registration number ink stamped at the top of the form. Once your dealer has your approved form, he releases the SBR to you with the document. This document (or at least a photo copy) must always accompany the SBR.

If you already have a Thompson and want to convert it to a SBR, take it to a Class III manufacturer. They can put a new serial number on it and install the short barrel. You would then follow the same process as mentioned before.

I'm not sure what happens if you are denied by the BATFE, but I assume the dealer or manufacturer would have to sell the SBR to someone else and then refund your money. I do not believe you can do either in reverse because the SBR's serial number must be on the form that you submit to the BATFE. BATFE will also keep your $200.

Not all states allow possession of Class IIIs. This is the procedure for Colorado. Check your local laws and make sure that your local sheriff will even sign off on a Class III. Ask a your dealer or BATFE agent. Check out this website...Class III Weapon Sales (http://www.westernfirearms.com/) There is some ownership info on it and pics of his very impressive Tommy Gun collection.

I hope this info helps and please correct me if I'm wrong!

Story
11-21-2009, 05:53 PM
Someone in Colorado is working on their own Colt Monitor...

1918A3 SLR , Colt Monitor project - 1919a4 forums (http://www.1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26495)

Ghostsoldier
11-23-2009, 09:58 AM
Alvin,
The Hustler is correct in his description of the process. The fingerprinting and CLEO sign-off is the most aggravating part of the whole thing; the ATF waiting game is standard fare when dealing with the Feds....nothing you can do BUT wait. :(

He's also correct in telling you to check your state and local laws first, to make sure it's even legal to own a SBR...I found out the hard way that Alabama, for instance, allows full auto, but NOT SBR's....go figure! :rolleyes:

State by State Chart of NFA Restrictions (http://www.mp5.net/info/sbsconr.htm)

Rob

Alvin Karpis
01-02-2010, 05:30 PM
New addition to the family, in case I decide to go to the movies with a woman in an orange (red) dress. Colt 1903 made in 1929.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Colt190319293.jpg

Ghostsoldier
01-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Don't forget to wear your straw boater! :D
Rob

Alvin Karpis
01-06-2010, 05:36 PM
Straw boater you say?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Colt1903withboater.jpg

Ghostsoldier
01-07-2010, 07:19 AM
Ahh...that's PERFECT! :D
Rob

The Hustler
01-11-2010, 05:58 PM
Who mugged Johnny Depp!? Seriously, that is awesome; great job!
I was eye-ballin' one of those Colts at a gun show last weekend. Some others too...

Story
01-12-2010, 04:28 PM
Straw boater you say?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Colt1903withboater.jpg

Appropriate - :yo:

Ghostsoldier
01-13-2010, 10:15 AM
You figure, being hammerless and all, that ol' Johnny coulda pulled that Colt pistol out of his pants a bit quicker, before Charles Winstead popped a couple o' caps in his ass.....:D
Rob

The Hustler
01-14-2010, 06:04 PM
It felt like a "suicide by cop" to me. At least he got to spend his final moments with Leelee Sobieski...

Story
01-25-2010, 01:33 PM
Not my rifle, but the price is right if you live around SW PA or can travel to meet this guy with a C&R license in hand. If interested, send me a PM with your email address and I'll forward the fellow's photos and contact information.


> Have a Remington Model 8 in 30 rem. for sale or trade. The rifle is in good
> condition with no serious defects. The bluing on the barrel sleeve is good,
> the bluing on the receiver is well worn. The stocks are in very good
> condition. Overall it is in typical hunting rifle condition. Looking for a
> rifle or sa revolver in 44-40. I have 4 boxes of ammunition that can be part
> of the trade or will sell separately with rifle. Asking $350.00 for the
> rifle and $30.00/box for the factory Remington ammo and $25.00/box for the ammo from Reed's Ammunition and Research. The Remington ammo is in th old
> green and red box marked Kleanbore. I live in swpa and would like to do the
> transaction ftf. Can send pictures if interested.

Story
01-25-2010, 01:35 PM
One of the Erie Remington 8 rifle pics.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/ErieRemington8.jpg

Story
01-25-2010, 01:39 PM
This one is mine - 1979 (iirc) 1927 A5, with X drum.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/1927A5b.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/1927A5small-1.jpg

Trace of a wiggle in the rear sight and upper-to-lower fit.

Ghostsoldier
01-25-2010, 01:58 PM
That's a nice trench broom, Story! :)
Rob

The Boilermaker
01-26-2010, 06:53 AM
Remington Model 81 in .300 Savage:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Guns/DSC_1864.jpg

Savage 1907:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Guns/DSC_1651.jpg

Kahr Thompson and Colt 1911's:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Thompson/DSC_1529.jpg

Detective Special:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Guns/DSC_1414.jpg

1917 S&W and 1927 Argentine Colt:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Rigs/DSC_1237.jpg

Ghostsoldier
01-26-2010, 10:33 AM
Awesome firearm goodiness! :D
Rob

Alvin Karpis
01-28-2010, 08:02 PM
Boilermaker - beautiful bunch of firearms!

Here's a new on for my collection - Remington Model 51 in .380

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Rem51a-1.jpg

Race Bannon
02-12-2010, 04:15 PM
I would never use this in a match, here is the M1911 that my grandfather carried on the Mexican Border and WWI and WWII.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/th_picsofguns003.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/?action=view&current=picsofguns003.jpg)

Alvin Karpis
02-13-2010, 11:14 AM
A beautiful 1911 with family history - I can't think of anything better than that.

AK

Ghostsoldier
02-15-2010, 11:10 AM
A beautiful 1911 with family history - I can't think of anything better than that.

AK

I second that! ;)
Rob

SHOOTER13
02-16-2010, 02:42 PM
Friends of the wife and I threw a "Roarin' 20's" theme party this past September, complete with speakeasy casino, stills, rotgut whiskey, and bathtub gin...had a blast !! I was the only one to show up with real firearms from the period...

Thompson 1927a1

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/Gunnutz13/avatars/MY%20GUNS/TOMMYGUN1927a1small-1.jpg

Auto Ordnance 1911a1

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/Gunnutz13/avatars/MY%20GUNS/AUTOORDNANCE45ACP.jpg

Colt M1908 Pocket Hammerless ( circa 1922 )

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/Gunnutz13/avatars/MY%20GUNS/COLT380ACPHAMMERLESSsmall.jpg

I had the AO 1911a1 heater in a horizontal shoulder rig of black leather...and carried the tommy gun, while the wife had the Colt 1908 stuffed into her garter. Everybody lined up to have their pictures taken by the main still, and I had them drop their 'toy' guns and hold the real deal. We had cocktails,Havana cigars,and gambled the nite away...gangster style.

Bootleggers ( Wife & I )

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/Gunnutz13/avatars/GANGSTER/KEVBEV.jpg

My Moll

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/Gunnutz13/avatars/GANGSTER/FLAPPERBEV.jpg

Speakeasy Owners ( Dave Bruno & Doll )

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/Gunnutz13/avatars/GANGSTER/BRUNOMOB.jpg

Ghostsoldier
02-17-2010, 09:41 AM
Great photos, Shooter! :)
Rob

The Hustler
02-17-2010, 05:06 PM
I second that! Great photos Shooter. When is the next party?

Race Bannon
02-20-2010, 12:26 PM
Here's a gun I will use in a match! M1903 .32 ACP made in 1927.



http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/picsofguns001.jpg

Race Bannon
02-20-2010, 12:31 PM
This may be useful too!

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/momandkev014.jpg

Race Bannon
02-22-2010, 07:33 PM
This model 12 was purchased for $20.00 in 1968 and given to me some years later. It was made in 1914 (63,000 SN range) it has a polychoke and recoil pad installed. the pad and choke are probably from the 1940s or 1950s is my guess.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/picsofguns009.jpg

Story
03-05-2010, 09:55 AM
Colt R80 semi-auto copy made from an OOW 1918A3, $9,500
Urban Armory :: North America's Premier Firearms Broker (http://www.urban-armory.com/cart/proddetail.php?prod=r80)

See also
1918A3 SLR , Colt Monitor project - 1919a4 forums (http://www.1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26495)

Alvin Karpis
03-05-2010, 01:28 PM
Beautiful guns, Story. And I'm only $9137 short of making that one for sale mine.

AK

The Boilermaker
03-07-2010, 04:07 AM
Just picked this up Colt 1911 .45 ACP, Factory Nickel with (Pre Ivory Ban) Elephant Ivory grips:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Colts/DSC_2017.jpg

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Colts/DSC_2020.jpg

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Colts/DSC_2024.jpg

Race Bannon
03-07-2010, 09:21 AM
Very nice beautiful 1911. The Ivory grips really set it off.

Story
03-07-2010, 06:26 PM
Very nice beautiful 1911. The Ivory grips really set it off.

:ohmy:

Story
03-23-2010, 12:01 PM
Something neat that's sort of on this topic -
ALCATRAZ PRISON
ARMS, AMMUNITION AND DEFENSIVE EQUIPMENT INVENTORY
April 30, 1948
Alcatraz - Firearms Inventory (1948) (http://www.notfrisco2.com/alcatraz/charts/firearms.htm)

Contrary to Hollywood, no belt fed machineguns.

Ghostsoldier
03-23-2010, 12:05 PM
They had 8 1928's in stock...and 30 1911's! Cool! :)
Rob

Bawanna
03-23-2010, 12:38 PM
Something neat that's sort of on this topic -
ALCATRAZ PRISON
ARMS, AMMUNITION AND DEFENSIVE EQUIPMENT INVENTORY
April 30, 1948
Alcatraz - Firearms Inventory (1948) (http://www.notfrisco2.com/alcatraz/charts/firearms.htm)

Contrary to Hollywood, no belt fed machineguns.

WOWSA, how cool is that? Thanks for posting that.

The Hustler
03-24-2010, 05:32 PM
We started adding more guns to the Zoot Shooters' Zoot Guns gallery. If you have something that you do not see on there and feel it should be, send me a PM. Thanks! The Hustler

Race Bannon
04-25-2010, 09:46 AM
Here's a wartime S&W Model 10 victory

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/picsofguns005.jpg

Race Bannon
04-25-2010, 09:56 AM
This'd be appropriate, if I was playing a rumrunner on the Canadian border : 1916 Webley Mk VI in the original .455 chambering, with (faux) ivory grips and riding in an Ostrich-skin shoulder holster.

Pimpin', eh?
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/MkVIivory.jpg

Very nice Webley and shoulder rig!

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/revolver005-1.jpg

Here are my .45 ACP handguns, my Webley is 1918 and the Enfield is 1924, both converted :( But fortunately they both shoot great with my .45 Auto Rim target load. The other pistols are a S&W 1917, Colt 1917, S&W 1937 (a 1917 made for the Brazillian Navy) and a S&W 625, all but the 625 are Zoot candidates.

Story
05-07-2010, 05:35 AM
Very nice Webley and shoulder rig!
Here are my .45 ACP handguns, my Webley is 1918 and the Enfield is 1924, both converted :( But fortunately they both shoot great with my .45 Auto Rim target load. .

Thanks. I got a bunch of Fiocchi .455 dirt cheap and I still shoot it only sparingly. Check Gunbroker, there's a guy selling .455 Webley cylinders (not cheap, tho).

*

Found this guy's site while surfing for something else - if he's not a member here, he should be.
MOB GUNS ~ "the worlds finest handguns" (http://www.mobguns.com)

Race Bannon
05-12-2010, 09:07 AM
Lugers were farly commonplace in the 20s and 30s, this one is a 1918 DWM (a gift from my wife, the best!). With a popular book of the day.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/holsters011.jpg

jlottmc
05-12-2010, 09:19 AM
That's a keeper Race (both of them).

Alvin Karpis
05-14-2010, 12:52 PM
Race,

That's a beauty of a Luger.

Here's my 1900 model and holster. Perfect for a progressive county sheriff character from the 1920s if it were eligible for ZS.

AK

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Lugerandholster004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/Lugerandholster001.jpg

Race Bannon
05-15-2010, 12:04 PM
AK, I love that model 1900 Luger! the holster is great also, is it marked? It looks high quality like S.D. Meyers and it a perfect fit. I have a 1920 commercial in 30 Luger. However, it came with a WWII German Black holster and WWII magazines, nothing from the period of the 1920s. Does Fiochi ammo work in yours? It does not in mine but other brands do.

Story
05-16-2010, 01:45 PM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/Bargun3-1.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Storyforu/Bargun2.jpg

Just to be totally retro : a 10 bore hammer F. Williams double bar/messenger/stage gun, very similar if not identical to a Bonehill. It has bucketloads of character and weighs in at a hefty 9 lbs, even with 20 1/2" barrels (that are real nicely trimmed down, even has a brass bead sight).

Remember, don't bring a knife to a gunfight..
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/e/e7/Untouch-lupara2.jpg/600px-Untouch-lupara2.jpg

jlottmc
05-16-2010, 04:14 PM
I'm looking for something like that in 12ga. I have always had a thing for a rabbit eared coach gun. I've found some imports, but nothing I care to move on yet. I will shoot it plenty though, so I don't necessarily want an old gun with lots of history. Also can you still find, and where would you find those full brass shells?

Story
05-16-2010, 08:36 PM
12 gauge all-brass shells.
Magtech Shotshell Hulls 12 Gauge 2-1/2" Brass - MidwayUSA (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=1657554245)

The Boilermaker
05-17-2010, 03:57 AM
I'm looking for something like that in 12ga. I have always had a thing for a rabbit eared coach gun. I've found some imports, but nothing I care to move on yet. I will shoot it plenty though, so I don't necessarily want an old gun with lots of history. Also can you still find, and where would you find those full brass shells?

The 12 Gauge coach gun from TTN is a reproduction of the Colt double. It's what I use in Cowboy Action Shooting. The best of the imports by far.

Race Bannon
05-23-2010, 04:40 PM
Here are some guns in the now legal 32 ACP. I think the Sauer 38 H is barely zoot legal but the CZ 70 and post war PPK-L are post 1939 and not legal. The PPK is a pre war example from 1937 and the PP is post war but the same design as the pre 1939 PPs. Of course the 1903 is good to go.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/holsters012.jpg

Race Bannon
06-09-2010, 12:09 PM
Here's one with Robert Stack

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/717/tsmg3.th.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/tsmg3.jpg/)

The Boilermaker
06-12-2010, 02:30 PM
Some Guns from the Copicut Zooters Match June 2010:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Copicut/June%202010/DSC_2138.jpg

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Copicut/June%202010/DSC_2141.jpg

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Copicut/June%202010/DSC_2136.jpg

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Copicut/June%202010/DSC_2139.jpg

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/dustertom/Copicut/June%202010/DSC_2137.jpg

jlottmc
06-12-2010, 03:36 PM
Thanks gents, I appreciate the words of wisdom there.

Story
06-17-2010, 04:22 PM
Anyone with a .38 S&W top-break that needs cartridges? I've got about 100 rounds of Remington Peters nickel-cased (post 1961) that I have no need for - about 80% are lead RN, the rest copper-jacketed HP. It's not brand-new, but it's not collectible stuff either.

Alvin Karpis
07-13-2010, 11:13 PM
I've got a couple recent acquisitions:

1918 era 1911 - all original with no rust or pitting but obviously seen alot of use over the last 92 years - $725 total:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/1911COLT19184.jpg

1917 Eddystone Model of 1917 - a 30-06 caliber competitor to the 1903 Springfield (actually was used more in WWI than the 1903 by a 2 to 1 margin) and more ergonomic for me to shoot - all matching except for 4 small parts. Should be Zootshooter legal - $350 out the door.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/DSC01355.jpg

Thanks for looking.

AK

Bawanna
07-13-2010, 11:22 PM
Couple of real beauties. I have my dad's 1917 Enfield (Eddystone) He sporterized it but only the stock. Left all the metal, sights etc intact. I put it back in it's original configuration a few years ago. The wood is not nearly as nice as yours. I might have to do a boyds to make it prettier but like it alot as is. I also have my grandfathers 1917 (winchester). He sporterized his also, shortened the barrel, removed the sights, put a scope on it so it's a mere shadow of it's original self but still much loved and cherished.
Love that 1911, what a beauty.

jlottmc
07-14-2010, 10:38 AM
I just had the opportunity to educate, and fondle one of those transitional 1911's. The story behind that goes like this: My uncle (more of a father than my own), has an elderly widow neighbor. She asked him to check out her husband's service pistol. Tim (my uncle) agrees, she pulls out a shoe box, and in it is a well used and worn holster, and an improvised pistol belt (holster wasn't ever issue either). In the holster is a 1911. Being more of a flintlock shooter, my uncle knows just enough about a 1911 to recognize it as such, and to be able to shoot it. He checks the chamber, and not seeing the round that was in it, lowers the hammer, which slipped from his thumb, and a weak load fire, the round left a mark but no dimple on the concrete near them. (That was Tim's AD, we all have one and usually no more than a couple, anything else means retraining, or training. Fortunately, no one was injured, and like most AD's was just beyond embarrassing.) My uncle couldn't remember how they come apart, and asks me to show him. So I demonstrated the correct way to disassemble the M1911, cleaned it and oiled it, and gave it back. That was a beautiful 1911, even had a bunch of a bright blue finish left after I oiled it. I don't think it was anywhere near original, but it sure was pretty. I also got to re-learn about the transitional period 1911's out of that. I'd forgotten that the Army had done that. I really hope that my uncle has a shot to get that pistol (as his neighbor has some family, but no one who would appreciate that), as the history alone is awesome, and should be preserved.

Alvin Karpis
07-25-2010, 09:23 AM
A great 1911 story and I'm glad no one got hurt!! It's amazing to me how many of these old guns are lying around in shoeboxes, or in the dresser, or under the bed, loaded for years if not decades. My uncle had a Walther like that and I had to unload it after his death. It was a WWII bring-back that was probably loaded and put in the night stand in 1946 to remain there until I unloaded it in 1982.

AK

jlottmc
07-25-2010, 11:41 AM
It is amazing to me as well about that. I fancy myself as a student of martial history, and to find one of these that has obviously seen the world and been some one's best buddy always makes my heart flutter. I would hang on to that Walther, just for the family history alone. I wish more of the folks who carried them would put the stories onto paper. Makes life much more interesting, and can influence the value as well. Not that these gems should be sold, but none the less it helps future generations appreciate them and the history more.

Race Bannon
07-25-2010, 05:34 PM
They'd be at home zoot shooting

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/oldguns024.jpg

jlottmc
07-27-2010, 08:29 PM
Sei stil Meine kliene's hertz!!!! Those are gorgeous. Are they original (as I duck the stones that will be incoming)? Either way, great pieces.

Race Bannon
07-28-2010, 12:07 PM
Both original. The LP08 is matching except for the magazine, its a 1917 DWM. I have a repro shoulder stock and holster set for it. The Mauser C96 is prewar with an original non matching shoulder stock. As a present my wife purchased me a P08 1917 DWM as a mate a few years ago.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/th_holsters009.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/?action=view&current=holsters009.jpg)

jlottmc
07-31-2010, 08:49 AM
Wow, wish my wife would find something like that for me. Positivley, beautiful. Cherish those, and the woman that puts up with 'em, and adds to the madness. Grant the guns wish to be shot, and keep those around for us youngins'. Can you attach the shoulder stocks without going through a bunch of BAT crap?

Race Bannon
08-01-2010, 02:00 PM
Mauser C96 and LP08s can have original or repro shoulder stocks and not be considered CL 3 short barreled rifles. This has to do with their C&R status and has been published by the BATF. They both shoot better (for me anyway) with the shoulder stocks attached. Stocked pistols would be an interesting Zoot Shoot side match.

jlottmc
08-01-2010, 03:27 PM
Hmm, I thought that ANY weapon that could have a stock attached fell under SBR's. The C&R status not withstanding. Of course that may be the only reason they are not is the C&R status. I know that new guns are subject to that Krap, and if you have a pistol with a rail, and put a handgrip on that rail that it is considered SBR. That would make an interesting side match though.

Race Bannon
08-02-2010, 08:21 AM
Here's a good thread on the matter of Mauser, Luger, and Browning shoulder stocks. Basically, they have been removed from the NFA. They have also ruled that original pattern detachable stocks are O.K.

Legalties regarding repro shoulder stocks - Jan C Still Luger Pistols Central Powers Axis Pistols Discussion Boards From Gunboards.com (http://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=18341)


There is also info in the BATF-E website.

www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf (http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf)

jlottmc
08-02-2010, 10:14 AM
Good info. Thanks.

Internet Blohard
08-02-2010, 09:08 PM
Besides my 1903 Colt, this is probably the only pistol I have presently that might qualify. Photo from the internet. Love those Art Deco lines.

Mine is in .380 and is probably 95%.

Race Bannon
08-03-2010, 07:39 AM
Very sweet Remington!! General George S. Patton was known to carry one. I think the pistol is now in the Patton Museum at Ft. Knox Ky.

Story
08-06-2010, 04:26 PM
Something that should appeal to most readers, if only for the variety of period hardware - a review from a few days ago
http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/movies/Good+Weird+Spaghetti+Eastern/3364241/story.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjrhkJYLnl4

See also
The Good, the Bad, the Weird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good,_the_Bad,_the_Weird)

Found here
Dailymotion - The Good The Bad The Weird Part 1 / 13 HD Full Movie - Film ve TV Kanal? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcw4o5_the-good-the-bad-the-weird-part-1-1_shortfilms)

Alvin Karpis
08-20-2010, 10:07 AM
Story,

Thanks for the heads-up on this movie. I had never heard of it. From the trailers, it looks like something I have to see.

AK

Race Bannon
08-20-2010, 10:38 AM
In case anyone is interested, i'm starting a classic guns blog at

Old School Guns (http://oldschoolguns.blogspot.com/)

Firearms from the "Zoot" era will play a big role. However I started with the .36 Navy and Jesse James.

Alvin Karpis
08-25-2010, 11:50 PM
I saw "The Good, the Bad, and the Weird" per Story's suggestion - what a blast, literally! I thoroughly enjoyed it but it is weird being part western, part gangster movie, part war movie and all fun. You can rent it from Netflix.

AK

Race Bannon
09-07-2010, 08:04 AM
Too modern for the pre 1939 rule but fun! S&W 624 44 SPL

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/holsters001.jpg

Story
09-12-2010, 10:30 PM
Pro Bono Publica.

WTS:Ohio Ordnance 1918A3 semi auto with Colt R80 Monitor attributes. (http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?188107-WTS-Ohio-Ordnance-1918A3-semi-auto-with-Colt-R80-Monitor-attributes).

Race Bannon
10-19-2010, 02:56 PM
My M1927A1


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/zootshoot002-1-6.jpg

Story
12-22-2010, 01:50 PM
FWIW, Not my ad, caveat ad nauseum

3. C-96 7.63 Broomhandle Mauser. rare Von Lengerke & Detmold marked. All original. Original finish. All matching numbers. Purchased from a Savannah, Ga., gunshop in mid 1980s. Here is the story we got from the dealer. Again, this just the story. Make of it what you like. The dealer said he purchased the gun from a widow. The widow said her husband bought the gun decades earlier in a Chicago police auction of confiscated mob weapons. There are four small holes hand carved in the right grip, i.e. notches in the grip. Maybe 80 percent finish. I need to take photos of this. $1,750

By:Will G. in Martin County, FL <willgreenlee@yahoo.com> (76.111.200.52)
http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/collectors.cgi?read=37552

Alvin Karpis
05-15-2011, 02:06 PM
My latest S&W HD in 44 special - made circa 1925 - bought it as a shooter because the finish is worn but there is no rust and the bore and mechanics are excellent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Levallois/P1000097-1.jpg

Race Bannon
05-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Simply beautiful!! I really like the craftmanship in the old S &W N frames.

Story
05-17-2011, 09:53 PM
Interesting period-appropriate .38 S&W w/ special belt holster
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_154&products_id=8461

Story
05-20-2011, 01:14 PM
DWM P.08 .30 Luger caliber pistol. Luger belonging to prohibition era gangster john "Legs" Diamond. Legs Diamond was a contemporary of Al Capone, Dutch Schultz, John Dillinger and others who were responsible for murders, gambling, illegal alcohol etc... Found this via the Luger forums
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=26735

This 1920 Commercial Luger with snail drum (32 shots) was taken from Diamond by Lt Nathan Allyn, Bergen County prosecutors office. Included are Lt. Allyns badge, letter from his close friend stating the gun and drum by serial number came from Lt. Allyn by way of his arrest of Legs Diamond. Numerous news articles on both Diamond and Lt. Allyn and a book on Diamond. $9,850.00
see photos Item# PR8854
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/new_arrivals.php


Supposedly, Wilbur Underhill (The Tri State Terror) was armed with two U.S. 1911's and a artillery luger with a snail magazine in his last "Shootout" with officers at Shawnee, Oklahoma , 1933..
http://www.jcs-group.com/oldwest/peoples/underhill.html

Internet Blohard
05-20-2011, 07:08 PM
Here's a couple of pocket guns correct for the period.

Story
12-03-2011, 08:24 AM
Beater second set of barrels (Savage made) bobbed to 20" for a 12g Fox Sterlingworth, 10-32 brass machine screw used for a big '1920s tacticool' front sight.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1817/lupera.jpg

Story
12-27-2011, 05:04 PM
A pair of vintage guns believed to have been owned and used by the notorious outlaws Bonnie and Clyde will be sold at auction Saturday, Jan. 21, by Mayo Auction & Realty in Kansas City, Mo.

http://www.auctionbymayo.com/index.php?subp=1&sct=&pg=ap&pid=23883

DeaconKC
12-30-2011, 08:42 PM
Loving this thread, I will have to post some of my beauties once I get home. Also, great to see several friends from the Fedora Lounge here.

Story
01-22-2012, 12:09 AM
KANSAS CITY, Mo (Reuters) - Two guns believed seized from gangsters Bonnie and Clyde in 1933 after a deadly Missouri shootout with police sold for a combined $210,000 at an auction on Saturday in Kansas City to an unnamed online bidder.
The bidder paid $130,000 for a .45-caliber Thompson submachine gun, known as a "Tommy gun" in gangster slang. The same bidder paid $80,000 for an 1897 12-gauge Winchester shotgun.

http://news.yahoo.com/bonnie-clyde-guns-bring-210-000-missouri-auction-211359920.html

Story
01-23-2012, 02:15 PM
This Universal Newsreel dramatically depicts the border patrol in action as they stake out and capture a band of would-be smugglers as they cross the Rio Grande River near El Paso.
http://www.texasarchive.org/library/index.php?title=Border_Patrol_Nabs_Vicious_Smuggle rs_in_Surprise_Attack

Note the Border Patrol has a Winchester 94 or 92 and one 95. They take what looks like a 45 SAA off of a smuggler (although this can't be taken as total Gospel, since it's obviously staged).

Something to note when interacting with SASS detractors - from Ayoob's article The Gunfights Of Col. Charles Askins, weapons used by desperados included a Winchester Model 94 carbine in .38/55, an old Smith & Wesson .44 Russian and a Westley Richards 10 gauge loaded with Winchester High Speed #5 shot.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_143_23/ai_56221628/

Also used by Askins or his BP friends:
customized Colt New Service .44-40.
lever action Savage Model 99 in caliber .250/3000
Remington Model 11, a clone of the Browning 12 gauge Automatic-5, with an extended magazine.
Winchester .351 semiautomatic carbine
Colt 1917 .45 revolver
Colt New Service .45 sixgun, its barrel chopped to two inches with no front sight.
4" Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum in a Berns-Martin breakfront holster
Colt New Service in .38 Spl. caliber

Story
01-30-2012, 12:19 PM
This article alludes to photos of the weapons in question, yet doesn't run them.


The weapons are believed to be among those seized after a raid April 13, 1933, at the outlaws’ apartment hideout near 34th Street and Oak Ridge Drive in Joplin.

Five lawmen in two cars, armed only with handguns, descended on the apartment, and a bloody gunfight ensued. Two of the lawmen — Newton County Constable John Wesley Harryman and Joplin police Detective Harry McGinnis — were killed. Clyde Barrow, Buck Barrow and fellow gang member W.D. “Deacon” Jones were injured.

After the raid, police confiscated guns, a camera and personal items from the apartment, which was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 2009. The film in the camera, which was developed by The Joplin Globe at the time, was of special interest. The images on the film, which include some with the guns, were the first to identify the outlaws. Historians say the publication of those images in newspapers across the country spelled the beginning of the end for the duo.

http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/x647568197/Rapid-fire-bidding-greets-Bonnie-and-Clyde-guns

vedearduff
02-03-2012, 05:55 PM
Here's a shot of my pocket pistol. It's a .32 ACP Walther PP.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj171/vedearduff/Shooting/Guns/WaltherPPweb.jpg

I have a Colt 1911A1 (no photos, need to get busy with the camera) and I have a Thompson 1927A1 on order.

Once I have my Thompson, I shoot some photos of it and the Colt. I plan on submitting the paperwork to convert the Thompson to an SBR once I have it.

Vernon

DeaconKC
02-04-2012, 09:49 AM
Here's a couple I will definitely use, the Tommygun may get a vertical foregrip in the future and the wheel gun is a genuine 1917 built S&W 1917 that still has about 30% of it's original factory blued finish.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc372/DeaconKC/006-1.jpg

vedearduff
02-04-2012, 12:23 PM
Looks good. I'll post a shot or two of my Thompson when I get it.

Cheers.

Vernon

vedearduff
02-21-2012, 06:54 AM
Here are a couple of quick shots of my 1927a1. I have not yet had a chance to get to the range.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj171/vedearduff/Thompson-02.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj171/vedearduff/Thompson-01.jpg

I'll post better photos when I get a chance to set up the shots. I'll also have a full range report later.

Vernon

Story
02-23-2012, 06:13 PM
Great atmosphere, taken by the folks at Palmetto State Armory

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/405391_10150523364047097_279117042096_9392560_1973 441735_n.jpg

vedearduff
02-27-2012, 06:31 PM
I finally had a chance to get to the range today. My time was limited, I only put 100 rounds through the 1927a1. Functioning was flawless, not one failure of any type. The rifle was shooting 10 inches low at 25 yards using the basic sight with the ladder folded down. Using the ladder sight at 100 yards, I was able to pick off pieces of clay birds that someone had left on the backstop. All shooting was off hand.



I did not try the drum, I did not take the time to load it.


I expect to get to the range again this weekend and should have a good bit more time.


Vernon

DeaconKC
03-03-2012, 03:17 PM
I think i will have to build one of these. I've got a good shooting M&P .38 from 1906 that was horribly rebuffed and reblued that would be a winner for this, found the Barrel band source, now to decide if I want to bob the barrel on the old timer from 1906.
http://www.indygear.com/igguns.html

DeaconKC
04-11-2012, 07:39 PM
Just picked this up today, a 1921 Winchester Model 12 in 16 Gauge. Lots of honest wear but whoever used this gun took good care of it, because it is still as tight as a tick.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc372/DeaconKC/002-3.jpg

DeaconKC
04-19-2012, 06:43 PM
Picked up some new buffalo horn stocks for a 1926 S&W .38 and popped them on today with a Tyler T grip. Pictured with a 5" S&W .38 from 1906.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc372/DeaconKC/002-5.jpg

Story
04-29-2012, 10:38 AM
A work in progress : an ostrich skin shoulder holster for the S&W #3 actually fits a detachable mag Broomhandle snugly, and disappears under a sport jacket.

Still needs a retention strap and I think I'm going to repurpose the .44 loops on the left side to retaining straps for a brown leather mag pouch (taken off a Makarov holster ages ago), which will hold one (1) spare stripper clip of 9mm.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4641/ccwbroomie.jpg

DeaconKC
05-10-2012, 02:43 PM
Just had a little work done on my Argy 1911, new hammer and got some cocobolo grips from Bawanna to dress "Old Slabsides" up.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc372/DeaconKC/046.jpg
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc372/DeaconKC/047.jpg

Tinman507
05-10-2012, 02:47 PM
Lordy that man does excellent work!!!
Very Nice!

Bawanna
05-10-2012, 02:48 PM
Oh Happy Day! Looks like they fit real fine. Everything clears.

Got lucky once again is seems. Thanks for posting those.

jouesdeveau
05-10-2012, 06:32 PM
This is a 1946 S&W pre-Model 10 and a 1945 Sheaffer Triumph Valiant fountain pen. A little too late for the Zoot suit, but ...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/gmberg/Revolver/IMG_4571.jpg

DeaconKC
05-10-2012, 06:43 PM
This is a 1946 S&W pre-Model 10 and a 1945 Sheaffer Triumph Valiant fountain pen. A little too late for the Zoot suit, but ...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/gmberg/Revolver/IMG_4571.jpg

Oh ho, sweet! love the Valiant, do you use it regularly? I am a fan of old S&Ws and fountain pens both, love the post.

jouesdeveau
05-10-2012, 07:21 PM
Oh ho, sweet! love the Valiant, do you use it regularly? I am a fan of old S&Ws and fountain pens both, love the post.

I use it, or one like it, every day. I collect them, restore them, and buy and sell them.

DeaconKC
05-11-2012, 12:40 PM
Excellent, just re-sacked a couple of Esties myself.

jouesdeveau
05-11-2012, 12:48 PM
Excellent, just re-sacked a couple of Esties myself.
Esties are neat. I do only Sheaffer plunger-fillers.

Story
07-13-2012, 11:29 AM
Pieces of history: Guns of outlaws Bonnie and Clyde up for sale

Also up for bid is the Colt .38-caliber revolver that Parker had pasted to her inner thigh with medical tape, as well as the .45-caliber pistol that Barrow kept in his waistband. Each weapon could bring between $100,000 and $200,000, said Livingston. Barrow’s cosmetics case is also on the block.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-weapons-bonnie-and-clyde-action-20120713,0,1932417.story

Pantheon
07-18-2012, 01:44 AM
New to the forum, new to the sport, just trying to get started and have been picking up guns to get things rolling. So far I have a Hungarian FEG PJK-9 Hi-Power, FM Argentine "Detective" Hi-Power, East German PM Makarov, Polish Radom P-64 Makarov, 1907 Savage self loading pistol in .32ACP, Llama 9mm 1911 (picking up a second as well), 1895 Nagant revolver, H&R Break Top .32S&W revolver, Universal M1 Carbine, Remington Model 11E 12g and am building a semi-auto Sten Mk.III. I know that the FM Hi-Power has an inappropriate thumb safety on it, but I will probably just get another FEG and use the FM as my concealed carry instead.
Here are some pictures of some of them, working on getting correct grips for the Hi-Powers, but the custom ones I am getting are a 3 month wait minimum!
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/RadomP-64.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/Nagant1895.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/Hi-Powers.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/HR38SW.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/EastGermanPMMakarov.jpg

Bawanna
07-18-2012, 10:13 AM
Looks like your off to a good start. I just shot my Nagant for the first time yesterday. It shot pretty good. Lousy heavy trigger but it actually hit well.

Race Bannon
07-18-2012, 03:16 PM
New to the forum, new to the sport, just trying to get started and have been picking up guns to get things rolling. So far I have a Hungarian FEG PJK-9 Hi-Power, FM Argentine "Detective" Hi-Power, East German PM Makarov, Polish Radom P-64 Makarov, 1907 Savage self loading pistol in .32ACP, Llama 9mm 1911 (picking up a second as well), 1895 Nagant revolver, H&R Break Top .32S&W revolver, Universal M1 Carbine, Remington Model 11E 12g and am building a semi-auto Sten Mk.III. I know that the FM Hi-Power has an inappropriate thumb safety on it, but I will probably just get another FEG and use the FM as my concealed carry instead.
Here are some pictures of some of them, working on getting correct grips for the Hi-Powers, but the custom ones I am getting are a 3 month wait minimum!
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/RadomP-64.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/Nagant1895.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/Hi-Powers.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/HR38SW.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/EastGermanPMMakarov.jpg

Awsome start!! You have great taste in firearms, please psot a pic of the Semi-auto STEN when it's done.

DeaconKC
07-18-2012, 03:29 PM
I want pics of the 1907 savage and Remington 11!

Pantheon
07-18-2012, 09:44 PM
Pictures when done, promise. Waiting on the Remington 11 in shipping (gunbroker) and picking up the 1907 tomorrow. Best part about the Savage was that it had a period holster with it too!

Pantheon
07-22-2012, 10:43 PM
Actually held off on the 1907 the other day, paid money down on it and took this home instead;
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/Llama9mm1911paternpistol.jpg
I have always had a soft spot for the 1911, and I actually like Llama and Star pistols (have owned a few over the years), so when I found this one, I just had to get it. Since it is in 9mm, I can use the loads I am making for my Hi-Powers and it gives me a fun shooter that my wife is comfortable with, so I may persuade her yet to join me!

Race Bannon
07-23-2012, 08:23 AM
Here's an Astra 600/43 I bought last year. Finding original grips and magazines was easier than finding the grip screws. But I managed to get them all. This picture shows the old grips and screws.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/zoot/astra_005.jpg

Pantheon
07-25-2012, 12:35 AM
I seriously need to take a look at those Astra's; beautiful piece!

Pantheon
07-27-2012, 10:20 PM
1907 Savage Self Loading Pistol in .32ACP;
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/1907Savage32ACPwithholster.jpg
Came with the old holster the gentleman used to carry it with< WAY back when Zoot Shooting wasn't an anachronism, LOL!
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/1907Savageinholster.jpg

Tinman507
07-28-2012, 03:51 AM
Having only dabbled in antique and historical firearms, I have found a few resources for locating some interesting pieces. You gentlemen may already know of some of these.

Allan's Armory (http://www.allans-armory.com/aa.php) If you signup they send an email when new stock arrives. Has a few OLD US made revolvers in stock right now.

Buy Milsurp (https://www.buymilsurp.com/)

Classic Firearms (http://www.classicfirearms.com/)

Samco Global Arms (https://www.samcoglobal.com/index.html)

Hope some of that helps.
Sorry if they're common knowledge.

Race Bannon
07-29-2012, 04:40 PM
1907 Savage Self Loading Pistol in .32ACP;
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/1907Savage32ACPwithholster.jpg
Came with the old holster the gentleman used to carry it with< WAY back when Zoot Shooting wasn't an anachronism, LOL!
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Sci-fiAirsoft/Zoot%20Shooting/1907Savageinholster.jpg

Beautiful pistol and an interesting holster as well. Let us know how it shoots!

DeaconKC
07-29-2012, 07:37 PM
That is a fine pistol! Congrats!

Story
08-30-2012, 04:18 PM
Anyone else think this is worthy of a **** TRACY villain?
(Oh fer cryin' out loud, seriously? Ok - Detective RICHARD TRACY)
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu77/xtriggerman/MPA%20971/P1050811.jpg

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu77/xtriggerman/MPA%20971/P1050806-1.jpg

XTriggerman's posted his build threads on FALFILES and Gunboards. I think he did a commendable job of a 9mm diesel-punkish retro weapon. None of the tech seems beyond the pale of comprehension for that era.

(And yes, I left a trail of breadcrumbs for the builder to come visit this thread)

DeaconKC
08-30-2012, 04:22 PM
WHOA NELLIE! Details son.......

Story
08-30-2012, 05:43 PM
Who you callin' 'son', cupcake?

Build threads
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334173
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?274725-MPA-971-how-it-should-have-been
http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=6&f=48&t=374650

xtriggerman
08-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Who you callin' 'son', cupcake?

Build threads
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334173
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?274725-MPA-971-how-it-should-have-been
http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=6&f=48&t=374650

Gez Story, ya found every pic and thought i posted on that build! ol Rick Tracy would be proud....
The seed of this must have been planted back in 82 when I converted 6 FA 1928 Tommies to fire blanks. A Cal. movie prop outfit requested the build from Thompson/West Hurley NY back when I was employed there. Interesting blanks they use for those movie guns. They are 308 caseings heavily crimped to a 45ACP configuration with a compressed black powder charge. The guns were supposed to be used in Scarface and from closely watching the Tommies run in Johnny Depp's Public Enemy movie, im sure those BP firing guns made a showing there also. You can tell from the huge fireballs/smoke that would rip from the blanks.:53: Those blank gun were far more wicked to fire than the real thing! Seems a long time ago....
Thanks for your interest in my tinkering.

DeaconKC
08-31-2012, 08:08 PM
mmmmmmm, cupcakes! :)

downtownv
09-01-2012, 05:01 AM
I have a FN #1910 anyone know if that's in this class?

DeaconKC
09-01-2012, 03:59 PM
You bet it is! One of JMB's finest designs.

vedearduff
04-09-2013, 06:05 PM
How about this for any long range side match? I recently traded for this rifle with the idea to use it as a P-Scout, but it should fit in nicely for an AZSA side match.

It's a sporterized '03 Springfield with a Redfield aperture sight. The stripper clip guide is intact and I managed to pick up a box of 40 of the clips.

Here are a couple photos.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj171/vedearduff/Shooting/Guns/1903%20Scout/1903-Scout-1-Web_zps259f9a8b.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj171/vedearduff/Shooting/Guns/1903%20Scout/1903-Scout-2-Web_zps28b5ee2a.jpg

DeaconKC
04-09-2013, 06:53 PM
Oh, that is sweet, is it still in .30-06 or was it rebarreled?

vedearduff
04-09-2013, 09:19 PM
It is still 30-06, not sure if it has the original barrel. If it is the original barrel, the smith did a great job removing the original rear sight.

I made time for a quick trip to a a public range. I put 25 rounds through the rifle at a five bull target. The longest range at this facility is 50 yards. All rounds were shot off hand.

My best group was just over 2 inches and my worst was about 5 inches. The front sight has a 2 MOA bead.

I must say that I am pleased with this rifle. I look forward to getting to another range so that I can shoot at 100 yards, from a good bench rest.

I'll post an update after I get to the range again.

good ol boy
02-22-2014, 01:23 PM
Hey guys, I just joined the forum and figured I should post my small collection of Zootshooter guns.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/slash_mauser98/The%20Armory/old-guns_zps0b435400.jpg
Top row: 1917 Webley MKVI in .45acp; S&W M28 .357 which I refinished to a high-gloss blue, so it ought to meet the 10' rule (the original finish wasn't in the best shape).
Bottom row - the works in progress: S&W Victory Model .38 that someone nickel-plated and added cheesy faux stag grips that will soon be replaced (it was a gift, looks a little silly but shoots well); and my retro-styled 1911 project gun built from parts which will hopefully be getting a vintage slide and a new wide spur hammer soon.

A better shot of the Webley (easily my favorite to shoot) with my holster I made for it and some of my handloads.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/slash_mauser98/The%20Armory/webley-1_zpscb5c046e.jpg

DeaconKC
02-22-2014, 08:10 PM
good ol boy, I really like those S&Ws! That 28 looks especially nice.

good ol boy
02-22-2014, 10:58 PM
Hey thanks. I'm envious of those two .38s of yours on page 12. I'm a sucker for old Smith & Wessons.

Bawanna
02-22-2014, 11:39 PM
I don't think the Victory model looks cheesy at all. I like real stag better than the fake stuff but it looks nice to me.
And that Webley nearly makes me cry. I love that.

good ol boy
02-23-2014, 04:26 PM
Hey thanks Bawanna. Maybe cheesy was a poor choice of words on my part. In photos they look alright, but in person they aren't so great... kinda uncomfortable too. I've got a pair of M&P grips somewhere that should look okay on it.

DeaconKC
02-23-2014, 07:07 PM
ol boy, if you can find a Tyler T grip for the Victory, it makes the smaller grips feel so much better and would look great on that gun.

good ol boy
02-25-2014, 05:00 PM
Good idea, DeaconKC. I really like the look of the T-Grip. I should get one for my .357 as well.