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eklipto101
08-03-2011, 03:11 PM
Ok, I'm in a search for a 1911, the choice used to be a ruger LS1911, Citadel, Springfield Ranger Officer and a STI Spartan. Money is of essence, the Ruger are hard to find, I've seen one and they look great, I've read nothing but good stuff about them. So I have narrow it down between the RO and the STI Spartan, I'm tilting toward's the Spartan mainly cause is a couple of hundred $ less, I know the slide and the frame it's made in the Philippines, the inters are made by STI. I don't know about there warranty or how the costumer service is. This is for range use, I may do some matches (IDPA) I have a PM9 for EDC, also I would like it in a 45acp but they have it in a .9mm which the ammo is cheaper.It just seem like if it's a 1911 in a 9mm something is a miss, :blah::blah:
Any input would be appreciated, I know some of you have STI's, even though there more expensive than the one I'm looking at:typing::7:

O'Dell
08-03-2011, 04:38 PM
Ok, I'm in a search for a 1911, the choice used to be a ruger LS1911, Citadel, Springfield Ranger Officer and a STI Spartan. Money is of essence, the Ruger are hard to find, I've seen one and they look great, I've read nothing but good stuff about them. So I have narrow it down between the RO and the STI Spartan, I'm tilting toward's the Spartan mainly cause is a couple of hundred $ less, I know the slide and the frame it's made in the Philippines, the inters are made by STI. I don't know about there warranty or how the costumer service is. This is for range use, I may do some matches (IDPA) I have a PM9 for EDC, also I would like it in a 45acp but they have it in a .9mm which the ammo is cheaper.It just seem like if it's a 1911 in a 9mm something is a miss, :blah::blah:
Any input would be appreciated, I know some of you have STI's, even though there more expensive than the one I'm looking at:typing::7:

I have four 1911's and among them are a SA Lightweight Loaded 5" and an STI Escort. I don't think you can go wrong with Springfield or STI. Both companies have excellent CS. I say that while my STI is in Texas for a small problem, but I have every confidence that it will be made right.

TheTman
08-03-2011, 04:46 PM
I think the most important part of a 1911 is getting a good standard GI type frame, from which you can start building your custom masterpiece the way you want it. Nothing wrong with buying an inexpensive pistol and upgrading it as you are able.
My 1911 is a standard sized stainless Springfield that's been totally reliable with ball, hit or miss with HP ammo, but I've done little work to it. I think perhaps doing a little work to the feed ramp area would help with the HP ammo feeding problems. Worse thing about it is it has those little GI type sites that are near useless to my aging eyes. After things calm down some in my life, I hope to be able to pick up an officers sized 1911 myself. Will probably find something inexpensive and build it as I go.

BuckeyeBlast
08-03-2011, 05:32 PM
My Spartan9 is my first 1911, but I've loved it so much that I currently have two more 1911's on order. Cost of ammo on the 9 is what sold me. HUGE cost savings if you shoot a lot, which I assume you will. The Spartan9 is one of my favorite guns I've ever owned. The ONLY misfeed I had with it was with my reloads, which I typically build at max COAL, so one might have been slightly long. One misfeed, w/ a reload, and round count into the thousands. LOVE this gun. Since it's normally dirty, I don't have many pics of it, but here's a cheesy pic I took on March 29th for the 100th anniv of the 1911. I don't think you'll be disappointed w/ the STI. Worth every penny, and many more IMO.
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a453/RightClickError/Gun%20Stuff/PICT0116-2.jpg

Ljutic
08-03-2011, 06:07 PM
I heart Spartans. 9mm, 45, whatever it takes. =) Just the IDPA legal mods for these two. One thing I would suggest if you make no other changes is to get some good fiber from Brazos. It's cheap enough to get a foot of each color and find which one works best for you. I like the yellow the best, but that could be because my indoor shooting glasses are also yellow tinted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/BDSBruce/Wireless/DSCF2177.jpg

CJB
08-03-2011, 06:11 PM
I'd not hesitate to buy a Ruger, sight unseen.

OTOH.... I've been outrageously blown away with the quality of the Caspian receivers I've gotten, so far four this year. There is something to be said about building your own. Hard part is the barrel. The rest is easy peasy.

yqtszhj
08-03-2011, 07:53 PM
My RIA full size has been flawless and the price was good ($385 now at Buds now but I paid about 20 dollars more). It's bare bones basic but I cant complain one bit. Bought some new Houge grips I will try out in the next week or so.

eklipto101
08-03-2011, 09:05 PM
I heart Spartans. 9mm, 45, whatever it takes. =) Just the IDPA legal mods for these two. One thing I would suggest if you make no other changes is to get some good fiber from Brazos. It's cheap enough to get a foot of each color and find which one works best for you. I like the yellow the best, but that could be because my indoor shooting glasses are also yellow tinted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/BDSBruce/Wireless/DSCF2177.jpg
How is the recoil difference between the two, I know that they are two completly different caliber. I used to have a 1911 that got stolen and I don't know anyone with one, right now I own a g26,PW9, PM9,LCP.380 and a 1988 Sig Sauer P-226 that was made in West Germany, that's when they were made right, never had a single problem, I just don't like going from double to single action specially going fron a 12# pull to a 3-3/4, I don't shoot it much, I'm trying to sell it...so since you have one of each you are the "THE MAN", which one do you like most....PS: I love those grips....WOW:hungry:,,:phone:

eklipto101
08-03-2011, 09:27 PM
My Spartan9 is my first 1911, but I've loved it so much that I currently have two more 1911's on order. Cost of ammo on the 9 is what sold me. HUGE cost savings if you shoot a lot, which I assume you will. The Spartan9 is one of my favorite guns I've ever owned. The ONLY misfeed I had with it was with my reloads, which I typically build at max COAL, so one might have been slightly long. One misfeed, w/ a reload, and round count into the thousands. LOVE this gun. Since it's normally dirty, I don't have many pics of it, but here's a cheesy pic I took on March 29th for the 100th anniv of the 1911. I don't think you'll be disappointed w/ the STI. Worth every penny, and many more IMO.
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a453/RightClickError/Gun%20Stuff/PICT0116-2.jpg
Man I hope you got some anti-rust on that baby...I just drool all over it. My time "hope" is near, I believe that out the door that's the most competition ready 1911 out there and it can be build from there. How is the trigger crip or grainy???and what's the pull #'s????
Thanks guys for all the advice and helphttp://kahrtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif:roll:

BuckeyeBlast
08-04-2011, 04:26 AM
Man I hope you got some anti-rust on that baby...I just drool all over it. My time "hope" is near, I believe that out the door that's the most competition ready 1911 out there and it can be build from there. How is the trigger crip or grainy???and what's the pull #'s????
Thanks guys for all the advice and helphttp://kahrtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif:roll:

I'll be honest w/ you, I'm horrible at describing triggers. I like it, but that's about all I can say. It's completely different than the Kahr trigger of course, but nice just the same. No idea what the pull numbers are. :cool:

MW surveyor
08-04-2011, 08:49 AM
You might as well just do it! This will keep bugging you until you get the 1911. Hey, millions of people can't possibly be wrong. Can they?

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 09:07 AM
You might as well just do it! This will keep bugging you until you get the 1911. Hey, millions of people can't possibly be wrong. Can they?

Isn't that what they said about Renaults?

Darn, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit, the last election popped into my head.

But your ok with a 1911 without doubt. I've heard alot of good about the Rocks if your budget concious and you can upgrade a little at a time if you feel the need. Other than some decent sights you might be happy as is.

melissa5
08-04-2011, 09:10 AM
Beware! You can't have just one. CDNN has been advertising a 1911-A1 for around $350. Don't know what brand it is though.

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 09:13 AM
Why ain't you at work Melissa? You sick, get fired, looking at kahrtalk on company time. (guilty myself).

You haven't bought a 1911 in well days, gotta be almost time again huh?

melissa5
08-04-2011, 09:18 AM
I'm all by myself today and caught up on everything.

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 09:22 AM
I'm all by myself today and caught up on everything.

Act busy.

eklipto101
08-04-2011, 09:35 AM
Isn't that what they said about Renaults?

Darn, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit, the last election popped into my head.

But your ok with a 1911 without doubt. I've heard alot of good about the Rocks if your budget concious and you can upgrade a little at a time if you feel the need. Other than some decent sights you might be happy as is.

Bawanna, you ain't right. Correct maybe :001_tt2:

eklipto101
08-04-2011, 09:38 AM
Beware! You can't have just one. CDNN has been advertising a 1911-A1 for around $350. Don't know what brand it is though.

I was looking at them last night, I'm just salivating over the STI and a very close second the RO :confused:

wayneo1
08-04-2011, 10:06 AM
Do what I do, buy the one you want because they all have the potential to be good and bad. the only difference is your more pissed off if you got a bad kimber over a bad RIA. :)

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 10:10 AM
Do what I do, buy the one you want because they all have the potential to be good and bad. the only difference is your more pissed off if you got a bad kimber over a bad RIA. :)

Sound logic in that. Sounds like you got the kiss of the STI. Go for it. You'll feel better, all this waiting around is wearing on ya.

Pictures when you get it. Lots of help here if you need it. I dont think you will but we still want to hear about it and share the new joy with ya.

Are you calling yet, buying on line, driving to the local shop. Please advise.

eklipto101
08-04-2011, 10:36 AM
Sound logic in that. Sounds like you got the kiss of the STI. Go for it. You'll feel better, all this waiting around is wearing on ya.

Pictures when you get it. Lots of help here if you need it. I dont think you will but we still want to hear about it and share the new joy with ya.

Are you calling yet, buying on line, driving to the local shop. Please advise.

You aren't kidding about "wearing on me" thing, hell I have had dreams about it, the only GS that carries STI it's about an hour and a half, near the North Carolina border and they don't have any in store, they're on order Dawson has then in stock??. Right now I'm hoping the Sig P-226 would sell and if it does I would have enough to intertain the though of maybe getting the Trojan :eek:. About pics you will have to teach me how cause I haven't a clue:crazy::smash:

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 11:06 AM
You aren't kidding about "wearing on me" thing, hell I have had dreams about it, the only GS that carries STI it's about an hour and a half, near the North Carolina border and they don't have any in store, they're on order Dawson has then in stock??. Right now I'm hoping the Sig P-226 would sell and if it does I would have enough to intertain the though of maybe getting the Trojan :eek:. About pics you will have to teach me how cause I haven't a clue:crazy::smash:

You just order up your Trojan and I'll take care of the pictures. Sounds fair to me. That Sig will sell (or not). Don't have no effect on the Trojan at all. Your subconciously trying to justify your purchase very much like I do. I always think I'll sell this and then get this, I always just get this and somehow the first thing never got sold and thats perfectly ok. Ask Oprahs boy toy Dr. Phil.
I know the dream thing, I have them all the time. I got a day dream going right now about a T9. I'm trying to put it out of my head.
Get the Trojan, do it now. Get your local receiver FFL lined up, you could be shooting it by Tuesday.

eklipto101
08-04-2011, 12:26 PM
You just order up your Trojan and I'll take care of the pictures. Sounds fair to me. That Sig will sell (or not). Don't have no effect on the Trojan at all. Your subconciously trying to justify your purchase very much like I do. I always think I'll sell this and then get this, I always just get this and somehow the first thing never got sold and thats perfectly ok. Ask Oprahs boy toy Dr. Phil.
I know the dream thing, I have them all the time. I got a day dream going right now about a T9. I'm trying to put it out of my head.
Get the Trojan, do it now. Get your local receiver FFL lined up, you could be shooting it by Tuesday.

Sir, you are an instigator......for shame, shame on you:19: but you are alright, I don't care what Jocko say :lie:

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 12:29 PM
Sir, you are an instigator......for shame, shame on you:19: but you are alright, I don't care what Jocko say :lie:

Save your compliments for after the acquisition, not to be confused with the inquisition when we try to explain this to your SWMBO.

Have your CC ready and make that call now.

Instigator huh? I think thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.
If I have to live in the dog house sometimes I guess I won't be so lonely if I know there are others getting their beauty sleep in the same.

Scimmia
08-04-2011, 12:39 PM
Beware! You can't have just one. CDNN has been advertising a 1911-A1 for around $350. Don't know what brand it is though.

I was looking at them last night, I'm just salivating over the STI and a very close second the RO :confused:

It's a Regent. It's a good price, but I would pobably just to with a Rock Island in that price range; their support is supposed to be top notch.

gb6491
08-04-2011, 01:09 PM
My Spartan9 is my first 1911, but I've loved it so much that I currently have two more 1911's on order. Cost of ammo on the 9 is what sold me. HUGE cost savings if you shoot a lot, which I assume you will. The Spartan9 is one of my favorite guns I've ever owned. The ONLY misfeed I had with it was with my reloads, which I typically build at max COAL, so one might have been slightly long. One misfeed, w/ a reload, and round count into the thousands. LOVE this gun. Since it's normally dirty, I don't have many pics of it, but here's a cheesy pic I took on March 29th for the 100th anniv of the 1911. I don't think you'll be disappointed w/ the STI. Worth every penny, and many more IMO.
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a453/RightClickError/Gun%20Stuff/PICT0116-2.jpg
That STI looks good in the candle light. Here's my Range Officer out in the hot Arizona sun:):
http://i56.tinypic.com/14j3fi0.jpg
The Spartan and the RO are both nice guns, I doubt the OP would be unhappy with either.
I'm not sure about the Spartan, but the RO is:
http://i56.tinypic.com/1zn4bw3.jpg
I take some pleasure in that:) The golden coast used to be a great place to live.
Regards,
Greg

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 01:36 PM
I take great pride in owning anything that isn't legal in california from guns to cars with emission systems so insane they won't run.
I think as you say it was a great place, maybe back in the 40's and for the brief period when Ronnie was running the place. Sadly just too much for one man to fix in such a short time.

Eklipto is in SC so he's probably ok.

FWIW that Range Officer has appealed to me since I first laid eyes on one. One of the detectives here was pondering getting one, so far it hasn't happened but maybe some day.

O'Dell
08-04-2011, 04:02 PM
I take great pride in owning anything that isn't legal in california from guns to cars with emission systems so insane they won't run.
I think as you say it was a great place, maybe back in the 40's and for the brief period when Ronnie was running the place. Sadly just too much for one man to fix in such a short time.



The last time I checked "I" was illegal in California. Oh well, since I no longer test bikes for Honda [HRC Torrence, CA], I don't have any reason to go there.

eklipto101
08-04-2011, 05:28 PM
That STI looks good in the candle light. Here's my Range Officer out in the hot Arizona sun:):
http://i56.tinypic.com/14j3fi0.jpg
The Spartan and the RO are both nice guns, I doubt the OP would be unhappy with either.
I'm not sure about the Spartan, but the RO is:
http://i56.tinypic.com/1zn4bw3.jpg
I take some pleasure in that:) The golden coast used to be a great place to live.
Regards,
Greg


AHHH! I love that bad boy too...STI does not do business in Commifornia either...If the RO's price $810.00+ would be close to the STI $639.71 shipped I would really be a basket-case. Right now I'm debating between a .9mm or 45acp, 1911 of course....choices, choices :confused:

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 05:56 PM
Really no choice to be made there. A 1911 is a 45. Anything else is a poser.
I can see a 10mm easily, a 38 Super on a good day but a 1911 in 9mm thats a large body of water to cross.

Course this is just my personal instigating faster fingers than brain speaking. If a 9 is what you seek, by all means GO FOR IT. I'm starting to get a little impatient.

wayneo1
08-04-2011, 07:25 PM
Agree, its starting to make me jittery, buy something :)
Man that RO is sweet, no no more looking jump. 1911 are 45acp but order a second in 9mm for practice. now go get the STI I need a range report. You can skip the car payment this month dont worry they'll understand. When they come to the house to get the car you can show them your new 1911, bet they let you keep the car. :)

Bawanna
08-04-2011, 08:40 PM
Now theres some good logic right there. Give me one more post and go senior dude.

Diocoles
08-18-2011, 08:11 AM
Dang... these :32: people putting down 9mm.

Bet you won't stand in front of one to see how effective 9mm is today.....

:madgrin:

Then again, if it's such a MAN'S gun why aren't you shootin a .50 ??!!!!

Rant over.

jlottmc
08-20-2011, 09:44 AM
Umm I do shoot 50's. I also shoot bigger than that too when the occasion presents itself. I have to hand it to Bawanna, he hit it right on the head with that one.

Popeye
08-20-2011, 01:45 PM
My RIA full size has been flawless and the price was good ($385 now at Buds now but I paid about 20 dollars more). It's bare bones basic but I cant complain one bit. Bought some new Houge grips I will try out in the next week or so.

+1 On the RIA 1911. I have the GI model and it's been 100% from the first shot. The last 5 mags I shot out of it during break in where rapid fire as fast as I could pull the trigger. The gun sure got hot but never missed a beat.
It is pure 1911 fun to shoot.

Rainman48314
09-28-2011, 05:47 PM
Ok, I'm in a search for a 1911, the choice used to be a ruger LS1911, Citadel, Springfield Ranger Officer and a STI Spartan. Money is of essence, the Ruger are hard to find, I've seen one and they look great, I've read nothing but good stuff about them. So I have narrow it down between the RO and the STI Spartan, I'm tilting toward's the Spartan mainly cause is a couple of hundred $ less, I know the slide and the frame it's made in the Philippines, the inters are made by STI. I don't know about there warranty or how the costumer service is. This is for range use, I may do some matches (IDPA) I have a PM9 for EDC, also I would like it in a 45acp but they have it in a .9mm which the ammo is cheaper.It just seem like if it's a 1911 in a 9mm something is a miss, :blah::blah:
Any input would be appreciated, I know some of you have STI's, even though there more expensive than the one I'm looking at:typing::7:I just bought my first 1911. Its also the first time shooting ammo larger than 9mm. I posted in the General section.

I spent $699 plus sales tax..a barely used Sig with Commander size slide and Officer grip, 4" barrel, alloy frame about 30 oz. empty

Bawanna
09-28-2011, 05:50 PM
I just bought my first 1911. Its also the first time shooting ammon larger than 9mm. I posted in the General section.

I spent $699 plus sales tax..a barely used Sig with Commander size slide and Officer grip, 4" barrel, alloy frame about 30 oz. empty

I saw it, didn't realize it was your first 45! Wow this calls for some celebration of some sort. I suspect you soon find out what all the 1911 hype is all about, if you haven't already.

They just feel right. Old John Moses was a genius when he thunk it up for sure.

Rainman48314
09-28-2011, 05:54 PM
I saw it, didn't realize it was your first 45! Wow this calls for some celebration of some sort. I suspect you soon find out what all the 1911 hype is all about, if you haven't already.

They just feel right. Old John Moses was a genius when he thunk it up for sure.I also have two "posers"...a Kimber which shoots .17 Mach 2 and a GSG in .22LR. Just to let 'em know what's what and who's who, the posers don't get holsters.

I love my Sig 1911

BuckeyeBlast
09-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Congrats Rainman. It's an addiction. I blame my addiction on Kahrs... bear with me and I'll explain.

I was always a Glock shooter, but ended up wanting something thinner for carry and looked to the PM9. Loved it. Then realized how much better I was with a single stack, bye-bye went the G34 and then came an STI Spartan 9 1911 for pistol competitions. Now, I just recently picked up this beauty below, and am looking daily for a vintage USGI 1911, I've already decided that I want both an original M1911 and a M1911 A1, I've also got the Colt ANVIII on order (ANVII below). There's a couple others I want too, but they're further down the priority list. Addicted.

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a453/RightClickError/Gun%20Stuff/PICT0031.jpg

Bawanna
09-28-2011, 07:09 PM
Damn! To steal a phrase from Dietrich, that makes my breeches stick out in front.

I know of a very nice vintage 1911 GI Taxifolia has up for sale. I'll go try to find a link to it.

Have your wallet ready. It's nice.

BuckeyeBlast
09-28-2011, 07:14 PM
Damn! To steal a phrase from Dietrich, that makes my breeches stick out in front.

I know of a very nice vintage 1911 GI Taxifolia has up for sale. I'll go try to find a link to it.

Have your wallet ready. It's nice.

I'd love to see it. I'm learning all that I can about them now.

Bawanna
09-28-2011, 07:16 PM
Just sent it to ya in a PM.