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Old 02-03-2010, 05:59 AM
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Default Got the P45 back from Kahr...Doesn't look good.

Well it seems we are back to square one. I sent my Kahr off for having too many FTE's.

As expected their CS has been great and Ian is on top of his game. Two days after I called FedEx picked up the gun and it was returned a week later.

Unfortunately they didn't fix the problem. In fact it's worse than it was when I sent it in. Still, I understand that it can be a process so I'm going to be patient. Here's the pics from yesterday's trip to the range. Starting from right to left are the three 50rnd sessions I shot and the amount of FTE's that came from each one.

Oh, and on the last round of 50 I did get one FTF with a light primer strike. I waited...reinserted the round in the mag and it fired without a problem.





Is it me or does the ejector look like it's a little rounded off on the right side?



I put 150rnds through it yesterday for a total of 850 since I got the gun. I didn't clean it after it came back from Kahr. Should this have made a difference? Should I give it another trip to the range before sending it back? Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Now for some good news...

I took my newly acquired CW9 with me and put a 100rnds through it. Absolutely flawless through each and every round.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:15 AM
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I've never seen any pistol deform ejecting rounds to that degree. Were all of those cases crushed by being caught by the recycling slide?
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:55 AM
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I've never seen any pistol deform ejecting rounds to that degree. Were all of those cases crushed by being caught by the recycling slide?
Yes sir...the ones pictured were all crushed as they got jammed inside the slide before ejecting.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:07 AM
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Let me give a little more background as to how I went about testing the gun yesterday.

I fired a 150rnds in 5-shot increments. As you can see from the pics I shot the S&B ammo first followed up by a 100rnd box of WWB. All ball ammo.

I wore shooting gloves as to make sure I was not lim-wristing the gun. I actually enjoyed shooting with the gloves and may do this more often. Every round felt solid with each pull of the trigger.

Lastly, to make sure it wasn't just me I asked two other guys at the range to shoot a 5-shot session. They both experienced FTE's as I did.

At this point I'm at a loss for what to do other than send it back again.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:06 AM
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Sorry to hear the situation, the matter of the fact that the PM45 pistol for one have a very stiff recoil spring and will definitely will need more time for stretching and powerful loads should be use to cycle that slide(Wally ammo not the best for this task) and the second issue is that the 45 ACP is a huge bullet trying to cycle to the short feed ramp, reason for my rationale for a GAP 45 in other thread I posted.

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Old 02-03-2010, 08:32 AM
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wwb from wally world is no different than wwb from gander or cabelas. It is good stuff, it should definitely work OK. It is not special made cheap ammo made for Wal mart. More than likely the gun is going to have to go back. Your brass casing look like hell to me. almost like the slide is not cycling fully and timing is part of any semi.
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:23 AM
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I have put lesser ammo through it before but this time I stared with the S&B ammo which is good stuff. Jocko gave me a few suggestions I'll try out before sending it back.

I'm not worried. I'm sure they will take care of me if/when the time comes. I'm just in such a hurry to get the kinks worked out so I can start carrying this gun.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:54 AM
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I'm no expert, and don't even get to play one on tv, but I had similar issues recently with a different firearm and it turned out to be an overly tight extractor--apparently holding the casing just a hair too long from what I understand.

It was a 1911 style extractor though and the fix was simply to relax the tension a bit. I don't know how you would do that with a Kahr style extractor.

I also agree that it should be able to run fine with WWB ammo. If all the P45's had similar issues we'd be hearing about it.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:17 AM
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NOT normal - send it back.

You may want to request that they send you back a new gun with the same s/n - other manufacturers have been willing to do this in the past.

Sometimes it's just better to start off with a clean slate.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:16 PM
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Your ejector does look rounded off compared to my CW45 ejector. I only have about 400 rounds through my new CW however.

Sorry man, I know your frustrated. I would be.
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