PM40 PROBLEMS. Drawings of Issue Attached. Shells CLOVERING on EJECTION

[JFootin]

You're giving up too easily. Stripping, cleaning, replacing springs and lubing is standard procedure for a used gun. No biggie. It really isn't rocket science.

I have crippled hands, so I got my brother to help me and we took the back plate off to put in the lighter Wolff's 5 lb striker spring, clean and inspect everything. We had a recent post about a new gun that was loaded with grease in the striker and extractor channels. There is a sticky thread in the Kahr-Tech section that details how to strip it down. Use a gallon size freezer bag or a towel to catch any flying parts so they don't launch across the room and get lost.

No better way to get to know your gun, understand it, bond with it. Get some springs from Wolff's, take it apart, clean it, lube it according to the Lube Chart sticky - putting grease on the rails and wherever they say "rub", and oil everywhere else. Then, buy some quality ammo and go shoot it like you stole it! I'll bet it will perform admirably!

[gb6491]

Originally Posted by jbrowncreative

And the back plate can be slid down actually without removing anything just enough to secure the pin spring and extractor. I had it fall out at a range on the floor. Ill look into stripping it completely down but im weary as to how this could cause the clovering bullet thing.

If your extractor is not operating correctly (IE, sticking, sluggish, limited movement. etc) it's possibly the case is falling off of the the extractor before it hits the ejector or it's not being held tightly enough when it hits the ejector. Either scenario, would likely result in the case not having enough impetuous to clear the ejection port properly (thus the case mouth getting crushed by the slide and barrel).

Originally Posted by TucsonMTB

+1 . . . Or if you are intimidated by tearing down the slide (many people are) at least put a drop or two of good quality gun lubricant into the area at the back of the extractor and work the extractor back and forth with a piece of wood to loosen it up and ensure it is moving smoothly.

Because the incoming round has to feed under the extractor, a stiff extractor could also explain your failure to feed.

Likewise and as the good TucsonMTB points out, on extractor that is not moving smoothly could for one round not hold the case tightly enough, then on the next round not move easily enough for the round to slip under it easily
Regards,
Greg

[Bawanna]

If your not comfy going inside and checking things out, email or call and send it in. Kahr will look it over and let you know the cost if it's something major.

I'd not give up on it. The things mentioned here if done by Kahr would probably cost nothing. They can strip that slide with their eyes closed during their lunch break and that might just be all it needs. No way of knowing till they look.

[jocko]

If u feel that way, then peddle the gun ad buy a new one. There are guys here willing to help all they can but if ur gonna get excited about buying a small screwdriver or making a bracket that wil lhelp u take the slide down with ease, both of which will cost u nadda, both of which are certainly not needed but helpful for sure.... then there is nuttin this forum can do except spin our wheels

good luck down the road.