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Originally Posted by jocko
the slide stop spring actually does two distinct things, actually an ingenious design, even though I personally don't like it, it works great.
When one looks at his slide stop lever by the flat portion of the slide stop lever where the pin enters the lever, u will see a groove all around that pin. that is where the back side of that little springhy thing should lock into. That is what actually keeps that slide stop from drifing out. If the spring is bent, weak, or out of whack, then that lever can come out. The end tip of the little springhy as we all know is what moves the slide stop lever up and down, also if that is out of whack or bent or what ever, u can get pre mature slide stop or no slide stop at all. A very ingenious little spring when you study how it is designed to do what and how..
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Very interesting. Those little parts have a big importance.
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06-14-2011, 05:16 PM
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If you have issues and lets not predict issues before they happen but if they do the first thing I'd do is snug the screw that holds that spring in place down just a bit. Don't want to strip it out but it might just not be quite tight enough to put enough pressure on the spring.
I believe Greg GB solved an issue by doing this very thing. If the pin comes out very easy it might even pay to snug it down some prior to shooting it. Go easy on it, no time for the bull in the china closet syndrome.
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06-14-2011, 05:21 PM
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if u over tighten even thoug u don'tstrip the threads out of the polymre, u can over tighten it to the point tha tthe spri9nghy doesn't work freely. The little screw and cupped washer really jus thold that spring in place, not actually forcefully hold that spring in place if u get my point. That sprng has to work freely.. for the front and back portion of that spring to work correctly..
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06-14-2011, 05:27 PM
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if u over tighten even though u don't strip the threads out of the polymer, u can over tighten it to the point that the springhy doesn't work freely. The little screw and cupped washer really just hold that spring in place, not actually forcefully hold that spring in place if u get my point. That sprng has to work freely.. for the front and back portion of that spring to work correctly..
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06-14-2011, 06:19 PM
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my cw45 was really tight when I got it from buds, after 1000 rounds and greasing of the slide rails after every outing, the pistol has still loosenedd up quite a bit. It now has slight side to side play, but it really loosened up vertically in the front. When the gun is dry fired I can watch the front sight drop as the striker tension is released. The gun continues to perform flawlessly, even with my 200 lswc handloads, so I just keep on shooting without worry. My slide stop comes out just as easily as yours but has never popped out on me. I'm curious to see how long the pistol lasts. I see no visible wear on the slide rails, so i'm curious where the slop develops from.
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06-14-2011, 06:23 PM
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Jocko... I just noticed your signature. Do you really have that many rounds through your pm9? Has it loosened up on you? Any visible slide rail wear?
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06-14-2011, 07:08 PM
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My CW45 was also tight. I could not remove the slide stop with my hands/fingers only. It was later when the slide stop spring became loose that the slide stop started popping out and causing FTRB.
I tighted the slide stop screw and everything when back to work properly. I did put some Medium locktite on the threads of the screw to help avoid becoming loose again. Now I can hear a nice click sound when I put back the slide stop into its position and I also need to push it out hard when I need to take it out for cleaning.
So go and shoot it and see how it goes. Just in case, you'll need a T6 wrench for that slide stop screw.
Enjoy!
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06-14-2011, 09:23 PM
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Very helpful guys. It's good to know all this. Well, I just broke 'er down again to take a look and man, that is a tiny little screw. Anybody know where such a special wrench like that can be found?
Bawanna, your point is well taken my friend, lol, I don't wanna anticipate issues. All along, all I've wanted was a nice good running Kahr. Now, I want two. 
I've begun shooting the way most recommend anyway with the "two thumbs forward" grip. I find everything has improved, accuracy, comfort...Incidentally, my left thumb rests on the slide stop right where it pivets so this is a good way to ensure my slide stop doesn't come flying out!
J/K Ain't gonna help me much in one handed drills.
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06-15-2011, 06:08 AM
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sears sells the tool for the P380 u need a size 5 torx, for all other polymer a size 6 torx.
Just remember u SNUG that screw, don'ttry to tigthten what actually cannot be tightened, or u will be looking at a new frame, although we have fixes for a stripped screw THAT WORK.
In over 32,000 rounds I finally about 3 motths ago ha dto replace my slide lock spring in my PM9, I think in allthe take cowns which has to be well over 250 that I finally got that little screw outta whack. Up to that point I had never fokked with that little screw. I love the "If it ain't broke don't fix it theory". ayway I followed GB6491 photo tutorial in the kahr tech section under CW45 fixes and all is well again. It lookis fragile in that area and basically it is , if ur gonna fokk with it all the time but just leave the dame screw alone, be mindful how u insert the slide lock lever and more than likely u will never have to replace or mess witha that little screw and spring..
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06-15-2011, 07:14 AM
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Oh, here we go again... Another .45 ACP thread to put on my Not To Follow list.
[Best of luck with your new Kahr]
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