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muggsy
12-29-2011, 05:54 PM
Bob Welsh is a retired Ohio State Highway Patrolman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxjZB5S_g7s&feature=youtu.be
JFootin
12-29-2011, 06:20 PM
Excellent, and not just a story, but poetry!
TheTman
12-29-2011, 06:32 PM
Very Good. Thanks muggsy.
muggsy
12-30-2011, 07:43 AM
Very Good. Thanks muggsy.
I don't know Bob personally, but I wish that I did. Ohio has a lot of fine officers.
apheod
12-30-2011, 08:08 AM
and a few REALLY bad ones!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc
sorry, i couldnt resist :D
enjoyed the OP video though.
muggsy
12-30-2011, 10:56 AM
and a few REALLY bad ones!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc
sorry, i couldnt resist :D
enjoyed the OP video though.
Sorry, but I fail to see the humor in your post. Being a police officer in a high crime area in Canton is a high stress job. The officer reacted badly to a high stress situation. Since neither you nor I know anything about the officer, I don't feel that either of us are in a position to judge him. I'm sure that IA and the courts will resolve the issue.
TriggerMan
12-30-2011, 11:02 AM
Bob Welsh is a retired Ohio State Highway Patrolman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxjZB5S_g7s&feature=youtu.be
Nicely told. Thanks for sharing it
TriggerMan
12-30-2011, 11:08 AM
Sorry, but I fail to see the humor in your post. Being a police officer in a high crime area in Canton is a high stress job. The officer reacted badly to a high stress situation. Since neither you nor I know anything about the officer, I don't feel that either of us are in a position to judge him. I'm sure that IA and the courts will resolve the issue.
I think that posting the video of the Canton incident was inappropriate and failed the spirit of Christmas and the OP.
However, that Canton Officer is beyond defense, his equally stressed partner didn't threaten to execute anyone, a hundred other Canton Officers are equally stressed and didn't embarrass their brothers in arms and all of Canton. The guy belongs in jail or a psychiatric hospital. Gun charges against the driver were dropped.
Tinman507
12-30-2011, 01:15 PM
++++1 on that.
muggsy,
Thanks for posting. Very touching. I'd never admit to shedding a tear or two at that moving story. Guys don't do that sort of thing after all...
muggsy
12-30-2011, 03:20 PM
muggsy,
Thanks for posting. Very touching. I'd never admit to shedding a tear or two at that moving story. Guys don't do that sort of thing after all...
So that what that salty discharge was. Whoda thunk it.
muggsy
12-30-2011, 03:30 PM
I think that posting the video of the Canton incident was inappropriate and failed the spirit of Christmas and the OP.
However, that Canton Officer is beyond defense, his equally stressed partner didn't threaten to execute anyone, a hundred other Canton Officers are equally stressed and didn't embarrass their brothers in arms and all of Canton. The guy belongs in jail or a psychiatric hospital. Gun charges against the driver were dropped.
His equally stressed partner? Did you have a stressometer on either of these officers. Did his partner do anything to calm the situation. Like I said, we know nothing about this officer. He may have had an exemplary record until this incident. How many traffic stops have you made in high crime areas at night. Everyone thinks that they know exactly how they will react under stress. From my experience most have trouble controlling their bladders. Lets let IA and the courts do their job.
apheod
12-30-2011, 04:10 PM
i know a bit about this officer, he's done something like this 3 times now.
after the third one went viral and there was massive nationwide backlash against this psycho, action was taken.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/akron_canton_news/canton-police-officer-caught-on-tape-making-death-threats-and-cursing-for-a-second-time
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/exclusive-third-dash-cam-video-released-of-canton-police-officer-making-death-threats#ixzz1WSDBzcYB
muggsy
01-01-2012, 11:54 AM
i know a bit about this officer, he's done something like this 3 times now.
after the third one went viral and there was massive nationwide backlash against this psycho, action was taken.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/akron_canton_news/canton-police-officer-caught-on-tape-making-death-threats-and-cursing-for-a-second-time
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/exclusive-third-dash-cam-video-released-of-canton-police-officer-making-death-threats#ixzz1WSDBzcYB
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it isn't anywhere near as dangerous as making a traffic stop in a drug infested high crime area in Canton, Ohio at 2 A.M. I know that for a fact because my nephew is a Canton police officer. Like I said let's allow Internal Affairs and the courts to make the determination, not news channel eight.
Rotorflyr
01-01-2012, 12:45 PM
Apheod---according to my neighbor, he's done stuff like that more then three times.
Mugsy, like you've said, there are good officers...That one howeverisn't one of themand is exactly the type who gives the good ones (such as my neighbor and a few other friends and acquaintances) a bad name.
muggsy
01-01-2012, 02:11 PM
Apheod---according to my neighbor, he's done stuff like that more then three times.
Mugsy, like you've said, there are good officers...That one howeverisn't one of themand is exactly the type who gives the good ones (such as my neighbor and a few other friends and acquaintances) a bad name.
That could well be. All that I'm saying is that it's not for us to judge. That's the job of Internal Affairs and the Courts. The matter is being dealt with. Apheod could have posted this as an original post. He didn't have to hijack my thread on Christmas Day.
jocko
01-01-2012, 02:27 PM
not all people should own guns and not all cops should be cops.I would think it would be very difficlt for the IA to just walk away from this to.
muggsy
01-01-2012, 02:51 PM
Officer Dan Harless is currently on medical leave and has been diagnosed as suffering from PTSD.
Rotorflyr
01-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Muggs,
You are indeed correct that Apheod could/should have posted his link in a seperate thread.
As for Harless's current status, (and what people thing of it) well that too is for another thread.
Hope you and yours have a happy, healthy and safe new year...
TriggerMan
01-02-2012, 10:02 PM
His equally stressed partner? Did you have a stressometer on either of these officers. Did his partner do anything to calm the situation. Like I said, we know nothing about this officer. He may have had an exemplary record until this incident. How many traffic stops have you made in high crime areas at night. Everyone thinks that they know exactly how they will react under stress. From my experience most have trouble controlling their bladders. Lets let IA and the courts do their job.I think any impartial person who sees the entire video and listens to all of it can only reach two conclusions.
1. IA and the Courts blew it on previous occasions (yes, this ain't his first screw up)
2. This guy does not belong in a squad car...nether should he have a badge and gun.
muggsy
01-03-2012, 08:51 AM
I think any impartial person who sees the entire video and listens to all of it can only reach two conclusions.
1. IA and the Courts blew it on previous occasions (yes, this ain't his first screw up)
2. This guy does not belong in a squad car...nether should he have a badge and gun.
You guys are making me awfully nervous about pulling the trigger. I would hate to have any of you sitting my jury. A man is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. You people are hanging this officer on one video. I'll wait until all of the evidence is presented including any mitigating circumstances.
Contrary to what the driver stated the prostitute has admitted that the driver paid her $25 for oral sex. The individual in the back seat was arrested for having an outstanding warrant. How many of you have been out looking for a job at 2 A.M. in a high crime and drug area in the company of a prostitute. I wouldn't want to have to explain that one to my wife.
TriggerMan
01-04-2012, 12:38 AM
You guys are making me awfully nervous about pulling the trigger. I would hate to have any of you sitting my jury. A man is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty. You people are hanging this officer on one video. I'll wait until all of the evidence is presented including any mitigating circumstances.
Contrary to what the driver stated the prostitute has admitted that the driver paid her $25 for oral sex. The individual in the back seat was arrested for having an outstanding warrant. How many of you have been out looking for a job at 2 A.M. in a high crime and drug area in the company of a prostitute. I wouldn't want to have to explain that one to my wife.This isn't about what the driver was buying. Its about a gross criminal reaction from the officer. He threatened to EXECUTE someone over an issue he was mostly to blame for, i.e., failure to IMMEDIATELY inform re his CCW. Note that charges were dropped quickly.
There probably are mitigating circumstances (PTSD?) but that takes him out of a long term felony and straight into a mental hospital.
apheod
01-17-2012, 04:03 PM
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8158
psychopath cop is finally off the payroll.
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