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Gachrid
01-20-2012, 11:09 PM
Hey guys, I'm new to the Kahr line and just found a P9 at a local shop. I love the look and feel of the gun but am hesitant from reading some mixed reviews on this gun. I've read that they have had issues with failures to feed and can be unreliable. Also read that they can't be racked to load the first round of a mag. So can someone sell me on this pistol? Is it a worthy and trustful CCW?

TucsonMTB
01-21-2012, 12:01 AM
Welcome to the forum!

A lot will depend on you and your skills and experience, which can be grown.

9mm is the Kahr sweet spot and they can be relied upon. We will be here to help as well. :)

Best of luck!

tv_racin_fan
01-21-2012, 03:28 AM
UUMM..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_yw1-F0ZX0&feature=player_embedded

I dunno who told you what or where you got your info. Thing is you will hear stuff about any and every firearm ever made if you look hard enough.

I dunno where you are tho if I take the name as a hint you are in or from GA. Well I am in GA myself and if you want and live close enough you can shoot my Kahrs.

The P9 should be an awesome handgun.. tho I have never shot one my wife owns a CW9 and it is pretty sweet in my opinion. I prefer steel so I own a couple of K9s. My wifes CW is in her purse nearly all the time and if I aint carrying my K9 it is because I am carrying my Ruger SP101. Or it might be the wifes SP101, well one of them.

jocko
01-21-2012, 03:48 AM
Hey guys, I'm new to the Kahr line and just found a P9 at a local shop. I love the look and feel of the gun but am hesitant from reading some mixed reviews on this gun. I've read that they have had issues with failures to feed and can be unreliable. Also read that they can't be racked to load the first round of a mag. So can someone sell me on this pistol? Is it a worthy and trustful CCW?

in this conversation as the guys basically said it all. but what you have read is pure unadulterate bull sh-t. The P9 is just one super handgun. why not see if that gun shop will let you test shoot the gun before buying or allow full return if #1 u hate the gun, #2 it doesn't do as it should. If the prce is right it is a super gun, should be a hell of a shooter. I am assuming maybe this gun isu used, if not you have a new 5 year warranty on the gun.


U might want to read on the kahr tech section some helpful break in tips on your kahr or for that matter most any semi.

#1 kahr lube chart-- it is simply the best

#2 propper prepping of ur new kahr, some helpful hints that basically are not needed but for many it gives them a much better knowledge of ther gun before that first shoot ever happens andit certainly prepares ur gun for that firstr shoot . Don't eve reassumne that allis right out of the box, some things by just careful inspection and a through cleaning and relubing can eliminate a bad first event.

The P9 is one super handgun. This forum group here is simply the best at helping u with any issue to. It does happen u know, no gun is exempt from an issue, but many are in home solveable to..

good luck,

ripley16
01-21-2012, 06:02 AM
Also read that they can't be racked to load the first round of a mag.

A Kahr can be manually racked, but the manual instructs the owner to use the slide release lever to load, which avoids one riding the slide. The Kahrs are prone to misfeeds if one rides the slide. Lesson learned; don't ride the slide. Other than that quirk, Kahrs are like most any other firearm in operation and reliability.

The P9 is especially well suited for concealed carry, IMHO, due to it's size, weight and features. Once the new Kahr owner learns and gets comfortable with the trigger, excellent accuracy is possible. My P9 is very reliable and despite it's small size and light weight, I am able to shoot it fairly quickly.

Gachrid
01-21-2012, 12:08 PM
Well I think you guys are selling me on this gun. It's $500 which I thought was a good price. It's used but barely fired apparently. Unfortunately the shop does not allow me to shot it before buying and there are no returns after purchase. This is the only shop around that has the P9. One has a few CW45 but not 9's. The shop has two cw9's as well but I liked the slightly larger frame of the P9. I'm in CT btw not GA.

Btw, how is the snap on this gun? The smaller size and lighter frame makes me think it'll have a lot of snap to it but just curious from anyone who might have shot it. I have a glock 19 and Midsize 1911 9mm as comparison for 9's.

jocko
01-21-2012, 12:31 PM
u can get the serial numher off that P9 and look up and find about when it was made to. Just go to glock talk.com and hit ont he kahr section kand the first thread willbe kahr serialnumbers. Might give u some insight if you still have any warranty left in the gun. they carry 5 years when bought new but normally they will honor any gun within that 5 years, for I know of no one who was ever asked if they were the orignal owner or not. soethingt othing about. I would feel crappy about no return of purchase if they gun doesn't work, iT should be OK but again a dealer selling a product shold giv eyou some kind of warranty or at least say he will pay to sed it back to fr you if something s wrong etc.

raptorider
01-21-2012, 12:33 PM
It def has alot less snap than your g19..that's for sure.

JFootin
01-21-2012, 02:07 PM
Actually, the low recoil will surprise you. BTW, the CW9 is the same size and barrel length; in fact, the slide on it weighs a little more than the P9. New CW9s can be bought for under $400 with a 5 year warranty. Just saying.

ripley16
01-21-2012, 03:29 PM
The shop has two cw9's as well but I liked the slightly larger frame of the P9. .

The frame, and slide for that matter, of the P9 and CW9 are basically the exact same size. Are you sure it wasn't the smaller CM9 you were comparing the P9 to?


Btw, how is the snap on this gun? The smaller size and lighter frame makes me think it'll have a lot of snap to it but just curious from anyone who might have shot it. I have a glock 19 and Midsize 1911 9mm as comparison for 9's

You'll probably feel a bit more recoil in the smaller and lighter P9, but it won't be that much different than your Glock.

Bill K
01-21-2012, 03:41 PM
Welcome to KahrTalk!

Will the shop handle the shipping to Kahr if you get a lemon? I don't think I'd be comfortable buying the gun with that store's no return policy and not having had the opportunity to talk to the previous owner.

BTW, I'm also from CT.

chrish
01-21-2012, 04:18 PM
new to the forum but not to guns. dont want to sway you either way, but after an exhaustive effort over the last decade i ultimately decided my kahrs are about the best ccw out there. both my pm9 and p9 have functioned flawlessly. my dad has my pm9 now because i have found the little extra grip and barrel lenght on the p9 to work better for me. imo, you cant find a better combo of size, quality, and reliability in a ccw than the p9, p40, p45 (depending on your caliber preference).

if i ran across a pretty much new p9 for $500...i would have two!

Gachrid
01-21-2012, 09:48 PM
Yeah I'm not sure the case with the cw9 but I know it was slightly smaller. The slide and barrel were the same but the frame was slightly smaller than the p9. I felt a little more comfortable gripping the p9. Yeah it's like $60 more than the cw9 but I didn't feel as comfortable gripping the cw.

I'm hesitant about purchasing without a return policy but I can't find another one of these around here. I'll have to go back and get the serial number and check it out. Its definitely a newer gun but I don't know about the warranty left on it.

1radman
01-22-2012, 12:12 PM
What TusconMTB said:
"9mm is the Kahr sweet spot and they can be relied upon. We will be here to help as well."
The P9 and CW9 slides and grips are indeed the same size. You may have been looking at a CM9
FWIW,If you're patient you can probably find a NEW CW9 For <$400
The primary advantages of the P9 are: More refined machining of the slide, polygonal barrel vs. conventional. Front sight is dovetailed for easier replacemant or upgrade. PM comes new with 2 magazines.
My CW and my CM have been outstanding except for minor tweaking needed on a 7 round magazine to prevent nosedives.
I also took a loooong time to decide on my permanent EDC weapon and have been pleasantly surprised by Kahr 9mm C series; Relatively good accuracy; mild recoil; Very easy CC; and very reliable.

Blombo
02-02-2012, 10:12 PM
If the slide is the same length but the grip is shorter, you might be looking at a P9 Convert

Mark G.
02-03-2012, 07:30 PM
I have a P9, P9 Covert, P45 & K9 and love them all. Carry the P9 or P9 Covert everyday. I can rack any of the slides. Now the manual tells you to use the slide release. They are great guns, never had a failure. You have made a good choice. Good luck.

rjt123
02-03-2012, 08:36 PM
I'm hesitant about purchasing without a return policy but I can't find another one of these around here. I'll have to go back and get the serial number and check it out. Its definitely a newer gun but I don't know about the warranty left on it.

You might want to consider buying online from Budsgunshop.com or another place with a good reputation. That way you would get a new gun with a full warranty, and probably a competitive price as well.

yatyas42
02-09-2012, 08:56 AM
I bought a cw9 very slightly used a few months ago. I found it for $300. Same no return policy from the store, and the gun would drop the magazine while firing. I called Kahr and told them about the problem. They paid for me to ship the gun, fixed it for free, and I haven't had another problem since. I have fired almost 1k rounds since. I highly suggest Kahr's but I think the CW is the smarter way to go for the price.