PM9 shooting low

[Ltn2010]

New to me is a PM9 properly broken-in with 200 rounds. It comes w factory sights. I shot 150 rounds today and found it to shoot consistently low...about 4 inches low @ 7 yards.

Do others experience this w their pm9s? Would XS sights or Trijicons address this issue?

Thanks for your thhoughts.
Jack

[KennyFSU]

Are you flinching or anticipating recoil? You may be forcing your hand Ina downward motion during firing.

[Ltn2010]

Probably both! I am a new shooter and user error is high. Was just wondering if others may have similar issues with this particular model gun.

[OldLincoln]

WARNING SMARTASS REPLY!!!! (all in jest)

1. Put the target a bit lower.
2. Aim a bit higher.

Okay, I just started my first cuppa this morning and am feeling a bit frisky and silly. I'll see humor in everything until I smash my finger with the hammer in a while.

There's a lot to be said for (and about) the LA to NY trigger pull in the Kahrs. It's very smooth but takes getting used to and a lot of new kahr shooters, no matter how experienced, will drag the point of aim down with the last little bit of travel. Make sure you have the proper sight picture:

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/OldLincoln/Misc/sight-alignment-010.jpg

If you are convinced it is the gun, try a few bench shots. If still low, have an obvious good shooter at the range try it. The sights have a fixed elevation and aren't adjustable.

PS: Welcome to the forum. We tend to be a little light hearted around here which is one thing that makes it so much fun. Please don't take funnin seriously.

[Tilos]

If it were me, I'd have someone else shoot it to confirm.

I would then try different ammo(s), different grip, and as a last fix: shorten the front sight.

At close range, I find a smaller target produces smaller groups and use 3/4" round red sticky dots from a office supply store.
Four/five of these dots fit on the reverse side of a standard target and allow multiple groups to be shot.
Tilos

[Ltn2010]

Thanks for your advice. I'll try to get the range master test it next time. Accuracy aside, I was happy w the reliability of the gun. No issues w three boxes of ammo.

[Bill K]

Hi, the range master may only have to watch you shoot. He/she might note several things that would take a new shooter a bunch of time and money (in ammo) to figure out themselves.

Good luck!

[wyntrout]

Here's a helpful downloadable and printable chart:

grp-analysis.pdf (application/pdf Object) (http://www.targetshooting.ca/docs/grp-analysis.pdf)

Sight line up and trigger control will correct to point of aim... or you can adjust how you aim so that it gives you the desired point of impact.

Wynn:)

[TriggerMan]

Probably both! I am a new shooter and user error is high. Was just wondering if others may have similar issues with this particular model gun.Try 124 or 147 gr ammo in addition to watching your anticipatory flinch.

[QuercusMax]

I had a similar issue with shooting low. Many people offered good advice in this thread, especially the later posts: Accuracy with my Kahr (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=8290)

[KennyFSU]

One thing I used to do it mix in a snap cap with the live rounds when you're at the range. When firing with the cap, play close attention to the sight picture and make a note of how much it moves. Good luck and happy shooting.

[jocko]

One thing I used to do it mix in a snap cap with the live rounds when you're at the range. When firing with the cap, play close attention to the sight picture and make a note of how much it moves. Good luck and happy shooting.

ur talking. this will indeed show one his shooting ills real fast. If my kahr trigger was plastic, I swear I would have broken it in half when I hit one of those mysterious snap caps. We dont realize it as we are anticipating the BANG thing and this all happens at the same time but when one hits a snap cap and doesn't know it is a snap cap wow.

Ur one of the first to even back up what I have been saying for a couple of years, I was beginning to think I might have been nuts or something. (please good fellow kahr friends, no additional comments to the nuts thing):D:D

[Ltn2010]

I've read all the posts, including the link to 'accuracy w Kahrs'. Thank you all for your expert advice. I will practice dry fire at home to better learn the long trigger pull. At the range, i will slow down to shoot and load one bullet at a time and decrease the distance to 5 yards. I hope to give a better accuracy report soon. Thanks again for your friendly advice. As a newbie here, I feel accepted.

[jocko]

Hell they acceptedc ol jocko so u have no problems here, just shoot it like u stole it.

[340pd]

If you have the option of getting an competent instructor to watch you for a few minutes you will save a lot of money in ammo. They can usually spot your issue in a couple of minutes. Talk to pro golfers about instructors. They usually pay for themselves.

[JFootin]

yo bro,

did you try to hold the gun sideways when shooting it? It seems to work miracles for the thugs on the street.

Then, he would be missing to the right. :D

[OldLincoln]

yo bro,

did you try to hold the gun sideways when shooting it? It seems to work miracles for the thugs on the street.

I have and it's a sure way to get case bruises on the forehead! The system I use has the gun rotated a few degrees inward which aligns the wrist and forearm transferring the recoil impact from the wrist to the elbow. It works except for the extraction tracks.

[muggsy]

New to me is a PM9 properly broken-in with 200 rounds. It comes w factory sights. I shot 150 rounds today and found it to shoot consistently low...about 4 inches low @ 7 yards.

Do others experience this w their pm9s? Would XS sights or Trijicons address this issue?

Thanks for your thhoughts.
Jack

Jack, what type of hold are you using. The pistol sights are set up for a center hold. If you are using a 6 o'clock hold the gun will shoot low. Also, you want to dot the I. If the dot sits on top of the bar the gun will shoot low.