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sarah000
01-24-2012, 09:38 PM
I recently bought a PM9 and I've been doing some research on some different holsters for it. I'm looking more at an ankle holster. Being a woman I don't think an on the belt or IWB would work as well. Anybody have any recommendations for concealed carry options for a woman? And no I don't want to have to use a purse.
Thanks!
Bawanna
01-24-2012, 09:59 PM
Welcome Sarah, hope you like it here. The few woman here (all cyber wives of mine) I'm sure will enjoy your company as will all the guys.
The ankle rig would certainly be an option. Galco makes a nice ankle glove. I have a Gould and Gouldrich I bought from the Kahrshop that accomodates my CT laser.
I've heard several woman, Melissa comes to mind like appendix inside the waist band carry. There are lots of good options for that also. I'll let the ladies address that.
I just wanted to jump in before the other vultures flocked around.
I'll stop with the male female comparisons, because its quite evident that the choice of female attire is undeniably more complex (thats for sure!) and varied than the typical guy's duds.
Gotta get the holster(s) that match the way you're going to carry, what you wear, the climate, confortableness... it all makes a difference.
TriggerMan
01-24-2012, 10:18 PM
I recently bought a PM9 and I've been doing some research on some different holsters for it. I'm looking more at an ankle holster. Being a woman I don't think an on the belt or IWB would work as well. Anybody have any recommendations for concealed carry options for a woman? And no I don't want to have to use a purse.
Thanks!Look for YouTube vids by faliaphotography or Limalife
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNL5pqn3Eng
sarah000
01-24-2012, 10:19 PM
Thanks to both of you for the input.
I generally wear jeans that have a somewhat flared leg so an ankle holster would be very concealable. But thinking of a situation when I might have to use it, would it be easier to have an appendix holster or would I be able to say, "hold on I have to tie my shoe" and bend down to get my gun.. An appendix style holster would be nice for accessibility but I don't know how well it could be concealed..
Small of the back is my SO's preferred method, with jeans and medium loose t-shirt or polo shirt, but its a very personal thing
TriggerMan
01-24-2012, 10:40 PM
Thanks to both of you for the input.
I generally wear jeans that have a somewhat flared leg so an ankle holster would be very concealable. But thinking of a situation when I might have to use it, would it be easier to have an appendix holster or would I be able to say, "hold on I have to tie my shoe" and bend down to get my gun.. An appendix style holster would be nice for accessibility but I don't know how well it could be concealed..
Sarah,
Ankle carry is best left to back up guns, not your primary. It is very hard to get to, especially when moving as you should be when faced with a threat. I also doubt you will always wear flared, long pants. As your wardrobe changes to shorts and skirts, you will end up with an alternate carry position. It is generally held that switching the location of your CCW is a recipe for disaster. You don't want to be reaching for a gun which isn't there because you moved it.
Check out the YouTube videos I suggested above. A couple more links below. Remora is great for experimenting with positions.
You might even ask your CCW instructor for input. Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3oPw1WCYpU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izM0fiz6kk&feature=relmfu
sarah000
01-24-2012, 10:52 PM
Sarah,
Ankle carry is best left to back up guns, not your primary. It is very hard to get to, especially when moving as you should be when faced with a threat. I also doubt you will always wear flared, long pants. As your wardrobe changes to shorts and skirts, you will end up with an alternate carry position. It is generally held that switching the location of your CCW is a recipe for disaster. You don't want to be reaching for a gun which isn't there because you moved it.
Check out the YouTube videos I suggested above. You might even ask your CCW instructor for input. Good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3oPw1WCYpU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izM0fiz6kk&feature=relmfu
Thanks for the info.
I don't really wear skirts or shorts, ever. If I'm wearing "bottom clothes" in public, they're jeans. If not jeans than slacks, or if I'm feeling really lazy- pajama pants. I really like the idea of an ankle holster, I'm just concerned about how easy I'd be able to actually pull my weapon if needed. My CHL instructors have recently moved out of state, but I'm sure I can find them on facebook :)
tv_racin_fan
01-25-2012, 12:20 AM
I showed my wife couple videos from falia. I am trying to convince her to carry on her. Even bought a similar holster to the crossbreed. Imma have to keep on workin on her tho.
sarah000
01-25-2012, 12:27 AM
I showed my wife couple videos from falia. I am trying to convince her to carry on her. Even bought a similar holster to the crossbreed. Imma have to keep on workin on her tho.
I have no problem carrying if I can find the right holster.. I'm leaning towards iwb, but still undecided.
tv_racin_fan
01-25-2012, 12:58 AM
I for sure would go with either OWB or IWB. I carry in my pocket but you more than likely don't have that option. Womens clothes are different for sure.
I dunno where you are but I would be willing to allow you to try one of my Kholsters.
It is a bit large for the PM9 tho since the PM can use the small one and I got the next size up for my K9.
Yesterday the wife took the son and I to Longhorn. Normally my son wears a jacket and he carries in a paddle holster. In my state open carry is allowed. Anyhoo he took his jacket off to eat. When he was done eating he just got up and went to the bathroom walking across the restaraunt. The wife said well he aint shy... but actually he is shy..but what she meant is that he aint afraid to exercize his right. She also mentioned that she wishes she wasn't afraid to wear hers on her side like that...
I recently bought a PM9 and I've been doing some research on some different holsters for it. I'm looking more at an ankle holster. Being a woman I don't think an on the belt or IWB would work as well. Anybody have any recommendations for concealed carry options for a woman? And no I don't want to have to use a purse.
Thanks!
Welcome Sara! Ankle holsters are an option, but IMO they are not always the very best one; they look very cool on movies, but the reality might be totally different. Accessing a firearm that is being carried in an ankle holster is not the easiest task. You might want to visit "Cornered Cat", http://corneredcat.com/Contents/ , they have a lot of info. If you decide to carry IWB I would recommend a very thin IWB holster that has the clip arm offset away from the gun for a thinner profile. Good luck!
JFootin
01-25-2012, 08:22 AM
PJ Holsters Over the Belt Clip IWB (http://pjholster.com/?page_id=37). $40 shipped and so comfortable carrying the CM9 that you cannot feel it there at all, all day long. The sweet spot with this holster is just behind the hip. I carry my CM9 at 8:00 (lefty). It has an fbi cant to it. You can specify cant, ride height, attachment options, tuckable option. Coach Paul will work with you. I also have a similar one that is tuckable and attaches to the belt with velcro, so there is nothing visible at all.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/PJIWBBeltHookHolster-1.jpg
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/PJIWBBeltHookHolsterBack.jpg
Note how thin this holster is, and no bigger in any direction than it has to be. Weighs about 1.5 oz.
Coach Paul is just now developing a new C-hook, similar to a J-hook but with a thin shelf at the top that rides on top of the belt, preventing sagging. Very little kydex visible. I have one with zero cant on the way. You would want zero cant for AIWB, but also works strong side.
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/NewPJJHook4.jpg
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/NewPJJHook3.jpg
Tilos
01-25-2012, 09:04 AM
Try walking around with something simular in weight strapped to you ankle and see what it feels like.
OldLincoln
01-25-2012, 11:08 AM
For jeans with belt, I say just go with the Silent Thunder IWB. It's tuckable and my wife can't even see it when looking. It's there, the belt clip is just behind the cell phone.
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/OldLincoln/Holsters/STTucked.jpg
Bawanna
01-25-2012, 11:41 AM
Where the ankle rig really shines is in a car. Often times it's easier to get the ankle gun than the belt gun. But all other times it's better as a back up gun for a last ditch effort.
I forever forget that I have an advantage in being in a wheelchair full time, walking doesn't effect the ankle, in fact the legs sole purpose is a place to hang the ankle holster. Like you mentioned rather than saying I need to tie my shoe I figure I can go into I'm totally scared fetal position which puts me in perfect position to grab the PM45.
As Tilos mentioned walking much may be an issue but the PM9 is very light and with a good ankle rig it might work well. I carried a Colt Cobra in a ankle rig back in my walking days without issue so it does work.
Again though, anything you can do to get the gun on your waist line is a bonus in the accessibility arena.
dirty_sanchez
01-25-2012, 12:44 PM
My 64 year old mother carries her PM9/CTL crossdraw appendix-but none of her blouses are the tuck-in kind.
Granny rolls on 20"er's as well.
Dirty
Thunder71
01-25-2012, 01:00 PM
I absolutely LOVE my PM9 in a Galko Ankle Glove, it disappears in both weight and feel yet is easily accessible if needed (even while seated in a car for example).
You do not need to dress around your gun (unless you wear ankle hugger pants). I can wear it with sweatpants, running pants, jeans, etc... looks a little funny with shorts, though.
Get the calf strap with it and enjoy.
I applaud you for not wanting to purse carry!
jocko
01-25-2012, 01:12 PM
There are sme very very well made super looking all leahter purses that are desinged for that hidden weapon, where it is not thrashing around inside ones purse with wallet, car keys, loose change, gum, ********, condoms for the stranger that didnt ring any along. Those purses are not cheap but they are well made and certainly do not advertise a women has a special purse either. Not a COACH pur4se but who knows maybe someday COACH will get alittle smart and mae a purse for women who carry. There are alot who carry.
Mind u guys I am talking about a women carrying a purse and not us macho, tarzan, chuck norris rambo guys.
Thunder71
01-25-2012, 01:13 PM
Purse is a bad idea, it's the first thing a thief tries to rip off a woman's shoulder... then what, you throw you cell phone or shoe at them?
joshh
01-25-2012, 01:23 PM
I forever forget that I have an advantage in being in a wheelchair full time, walking doesn't effect the ankle, in fact the legs sole purpose is a place to hang the ankle holster. Like you mentioned rather than saying I need to tie my shoe I figure I can go into I'm totally scared fetal position which puts me in perfect position to grab the PM45.
Again though, anything you can do to get the gun on your waist line is a bonus in the accessibility arena.
bawanna, wish i could make lemonade 1/4 as good as you...
+1 on the waist and trying a couple (if possible) to see what works best for you. i front pocket my pm9 but there is no way my pm9 would fit in the wifeys jeans without it sticking out like a sore thumb.(thank god)
Where is Melissa when we need her?:confused:
jocko
01-25-2012, 04:37 PM
Where is Melissa when we need her?:confused:
bawanna he has trackers on the 3 gals on this forum. He is not in his man cave just watching sports:third:
muggsy
01-25-2012, 05:57 PM
I have no problem carrying if I can find the right holster.. I'm leaning towards iwb, but still undecided.
Being a leg man I prefer the thigh holster for women, but I think that the best way to carry is IWB appendix carry. You might opt for IWB four o'clock carry, but the gun isn't quite as accessible in that position.
My sister swears by her Crossbreed mini-tuck for IWB. Cut works well with her hip.
sarah000
01-29-2012, 02:10 AM
I think I'm going to try the crossbreed minituck IWB.
tv_racin_fan
01-29-2012, 02:25 AM
AWESOME!
Purse carry is not as bad as some make it out to be, in fact if done correctly a woman who purse carries has an advantage at times.
My wife doesn't want one of those carry purses so I got a couple kholster(s) to "mount" in her purses. Got one for myself to use in my "MURSE". (Maxpedition jumbo)
sarah000
01-29-2012, 02:38 AM
Possibly- but like someone said earlier, most attackers will be trying to grab the purse. So then like he said what would you be left with? throw a shoe or a cell phone at them (then they would also have a new gun to use later-, not to mention my credit cards, CHL, driver's license etc )? I have looked into some purses made for the purpose but I was left unimpressed. The "quality" ones can go for over $100, and they're not even that "pretty".
tv_racin_fan
01-29-2012, 02:43 AM
Possibly- but like someone said earlier, most attackers will be trying to grab the purse. So then like he said what would you be left with? throw a shoe or a cell phone at them (then they would also have a new gun to use later-, not to mention my credit cards, CHL, driver's license etc )? I have looked into some purses made for the purpose but I was left unimpressed. The "quality" ones can go for over $100, and they're not even that "pretty".
I'm not going to explain it yet but even those purse snatchers aint change my assertion.
I asked a question on this in a separate thread I'll explain it there after I give some time for someone else to answer that.
Interestingly enough many of those so called Carry purses aint ideal anyway. They solve some issues but make more...
sarah000
01-29-2012, 03:03 AM
I'm not going to explain it yet but even those purse snatchers aint change my assertion.
I asked a question on this in a separate thread I'll explain it there after I give some time for someone else to answer that.
Interestingly enough many of those so called Carry purses aint ideal anyway. They solve some issues but make more...
They can solve the carrying concealed part but then you'd always have to see your purse as a loaded weapon. The liability of having a gun in your purse instead of "on your person". I never leave myself behind at a restaurant/store - but I've left my purse behind a few times. I feel more at ease if it's actually attached to me. I'm not a dumb or careless person, but I do believe I'd lose my head if it wasn't attached to my body. I just don't want to take that risk.
tv_racin_fan
01-29-2012, 04:24 AM
You got awesome points there but none of that changes my assertion.
Ask yourself what on earth could possibly make purse carry an advantage. It has nothing to do with concealment or size of handgun and yes you do always have to see it as a loaded weapon. I believe I mentioned a change one would have to make in order to use purse carry correctly. I don't feel just slappin a handgun is a purse is using it correctly (tho it seems that is what my wife does, she does keep it with her much better than she did but still in my mind not nearly good enough.. and I wont go into much detail there).
AND please answer in the other thread..
sarah000
01-29-2012, 04:40 AM
You got awesome points there but none of that changes my assertion.
Ask yourself what on earth could possibly make purse carry an advantage. It has nothing to do with concealment or size of handgun and yes you do always have to see it as a loaded weapon. I believe I mentioned a change one would have to make in order to use purse carry correctly. I don't feel just slappin a handgun is a purse is using it correctly (tho it seems that is what my wife does, she does keep it with her much better than she did but still in my mind not nearly good enough.. and I wont go into much detail there).
AND please answer in the other thread..
I posted a good site link on your other thread that lists some pros and cons
muggsy
01-29-2012, 08:09 AM
This carry option for women caught my attention and I understand that the manufacturer is coming out with a model called the Bro for us guys. :)
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/05/flashbang-bra-holster-is-sexy-fast-and-practical/
(where's Melissa when you need her?)
Ditto... female input would be very enlightening... but ...
The more I think about this, the more I'm still of the opinion that the holster, its fit, its use, is far too personal to allow recommendations to have any meaningful weight. That is, for guys - or gals - our body shape and structure varies quite a bit (exhibit A: my gut). I think perhaps this is more of a problem for females, whereupon us fellows dress like crap usually (in these parts of the woods at least), and females don't, with some furtherance given to the exploitation of female assets which are generally referred to in Merry England as "her curvy bits" (be they above or below the waistline).
So, in short, ya gotta find somethin' that works for ya Sarah... and trial and error could be the best instructor. Definitely talk with some other ladies who carry. And get that pistol of yours FUNCTIONING 100 percent before carrying it, please.
tv_racin_fan
01-29-2012, 08:35 AM
There are already neck holsters and I wear a neck knife most of the time.
http://www.stellarrigs.com/gun_neckchain_rigs.html
http://www.crkt.com/Dogfish
http://www.crkt.com/Bear-Claw-Sharp-Tip-GlassFilledNylonSheath-Razor-Sharp-Edge
JFootin
01-29-2012, 08:48 AM
This carry option for women caught my attention and I understand that the manufacturer is coming out with a model called the Bro for us guys. :)
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/05/flashbang-bra-holster-is-sexy-fast-and-practical/
Now, that's the ticket for a small gun like an LCP. Only dressing consideration would be a blouse that you could pull up and get under quickly. A one piece dress wouldn't do. Better than a neck rig because there is no chain.
tv_racin_fan
01-29-2012, 09:04 AM
Tis quite easy to change out how a neck rig is hung.. one could very easily hang it on a bra much like that holster is. I personally don't think my wife would like that rig at all where a neck rig hung under the bra might work just fine for her. That holster is all up in the bra and I do not believe it would be comfortable.
center_mass
01-31-2012, 01:15 PM
Have u looked at the max tuck from white hat holsters? Very similar to crossbreed but less expensive....many good youtube reviews on it. I just ordered one even though i have a silent thunder. Also ordered a remora. Hoping the wife will like one of those because i dont want her to carry in her purse.
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sarah000
02-01-2012, 11:31 PM
Have u looked at the max tuck from white hat holsters? Very similar to crossbreed but less expensive....many good youtube reviews on it. I just ordered one even though i have a silent thunder. Also ordered a remora. Hoping the wife will like one of those because i dont want her to carry in her purse.
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The crossbreed mini tuck from kahr is 68.00 http://www.kahr.com/TP40-Holsters/Kahr-Crossbreed-Mini-Tuck-Right-Hand.asp and the max tuck is 59- so not much price difference..
John43
02-02-2012, 06:23 AM
Look at the Don Hume OWB. It is a nice holster.
jlottmc
02-04-2012, 11:50 AM
My wife uses a soft uncle mikes in the small of the back for her CW45. She has a purse holster as well. I'll kick her to PM you. You may also want to check out these guys depending on where you're at here in TX, the big guy in the video is one of my academy instructors and is a really good guy. http://www.txconcealedcarry.com/
jlottmc
02-04-2012, 12:32 PM
Forgive me, but welcome to the asylum. I think you'll like it here, just pipe up when you want to and all is good.
jdlott74
02-04-2012, 02:39 PM
My wife uses a soft uncle mikes in the small of the back for her CW45. She has a purse holster as well. I'll kick her to PM you. You may also want to check out these guys depending on where you're at here in TX, the big guy in the video is one of my academy instructors and is a really good guy. http://www.txconcealedcarry.com/
Thank you honey....Welcome Sarah,
I do have an uncle mikes soft holster that I carry in the small of my back with my CW45. I usually wear jeans mainly now out where ever we go and it is so much easier to get in and out. I had an old holster, jlottmc, may remember the brand that I got at Cheaper than Dirt in McKinney, but I always had a hard time getting it on and off. Usually when I am going to work, or out somewhere that I am not wearing jeans and don't have the shirt and attire to wear with the IWB in the small of my back, I have a concealed purse I use. Got it at a gun show, I think in Dallas. I just ordered a bigger one from Sportsman Guide for about $30.00 because the current one doesn't allow me to fit my Kindle Fire in. I'll PM you...
jlottmc
02-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Your old one was an Ace Case brand, it was universal for smaller pistols. Very similar to the Yaqui type, just with a spring clip, and that is what gave you all the trouble.
les strat
02-04-2012, 05:04 PM
I am more of a pocket or OWB guy, but I'll throw my .02 in.
I don't know your build, but if you are the slim type, stay away from any IWB holster that is bulky. It is just impossible to hide on a small frame. As mentioned earlier, the clip mounted to the portion where the gun is makes it too thick to conceal. But on the other hand, I have a Khoster mini-moon (similar to crossbreed concept), but it is almost overkill for the amount of leather and kydex to carry something as small as a CM9. I might as well being packing the Glock. I am still on the search for a low profile IWB for the CM9 that is minimal, but at the same time not bulky. The kydex jfootin showed might work although it doesn't give like leather, and I question hard kydex against my skin for a full day. Even though the clip is on the side, the kydex is only slightly larger than the weapon - keeping it thin.
I would not go ankle as it is hard to get to as mentioned.
Good luck, and let us know what you end up going with.
yqtszhj
02-04-2012, 07:49 PM
Appendix carry when it fit your attire is great. That's the only way I carry if it's not in my pocket.
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