Any YouTube fans here? Sample this!

[TriggerMan]

Limalife does nice videos. The lady worked in a gun store for a few years and has also taken a lot of training courses. Her husband is a Marine.

There are dozens of good channnels on YT. Good information on "how to", gun reviews, ammo reviews etc.

This one attempts to see if carrying an empty chamber works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxrpLbaEuY&feature=related

[knkali]

Limalife does nice videos. The lady worked in a gun store for a few years and has also taken a lot of training courses. Her husband is a Marine.

There are dozens of good channnels on YT. Good information on "how to", gun reviews, ammo reviews etc.

This one attempts to see if carrying an empty chamber works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxrpLbaEuY&feature=related

Yes I have seen some of her stuff and it is well done. Going through drills like that will open your eyes how fast things happen. I did some work like that in the vid and it was scary how fast a an attacker can be esp if they are much younger. There are things that one can do though to help build room to do your work.

[kerby9mm]

I saw that video a long time ago and isn't it really just common sense. Those videos could be out there for those that ”just don't have it"

[tv_racin_fan]

IF the first stab is into the hand that one uses to rack the slide.....

IF you insist in carrying without a raound in the chamber you best learn how to rack the slide one handed.. even if you don't carry that way you better learn.

That gal looks like someone I dated in high school actually. I was so in love with that gal, thought she was that into me... I learned a hard lesson. Guess it was well learned.. I been married some thirty years now.

[CJB]

Yes, carry with a round chambered. Jeeze.

But the scenario should be immediately realized as total bullputty. Guy already has hand hiding weapon... she should be buying any time she can, telling him to back off, and she should already be fully ready - in THAT scenario. Of course, the completely unforeseen can happen, someone getting a total jump on you, no provocation, no warning no nothing. That happens, which is why one's own mind, self awareness and awareness of one's surroundings is of no minimal importance. In THAT scenario, she's not up to the task. Other scenarios... would be quite different

[TheTman]

Yep, I like to watch Hickock45 do his thing, that guy can shoot!

I watched the video and I'd had my gun out when I saw someone in a mask enter my garage or coming up the driveway.

[TriggerMan]

I saw that video a long time ago and isn't it really just common sense. Those videos could be out there for those that ”just don't have it"From what I've read, written by guys who go with an empty chamber, they believe empty chambers ARE common sense. I mean it's so safe!

[TriggerMan]

IF the first stab is into the hand that one uses to rack the slide.....

IF you insist in carrying without a raound in the chamber you best learn how to rack the slide one handed.. even if you don't carry that way you better learn.

That gal looks like someone I dated in high school actually. I was so in love with that gal, thought she was that into me... I learned a hard lesson. Guess it was well learned.. I been married some thirty years now.
You might really enjoy her video of the custom thigh holster! :)

[jeepster09]

Many different perspectives on carrying with round in or not......the conceal carry classes around here say carry "without" because you are not cop and you should avoid areas were problem should arise.

[CJB]

the conceal carry classes around here say carry "without" because you are not cop and you should avoid areas were problem should arise.

That is just pure, unadulterated, bleeding heart liberalism striking its insidious drumbeat within the very soul of freedom, in a damnable attempt to plant its virus of shame within all it dares to reach.

Avoid that thinking, that philosophy, at the sake of your own life.

[knkali]

That is just pure, unadulterated, bleeding heart liberalism striking its insidious drumbeat within the very soul of freedom, in a damnable attempt to plant its virus of shame within all it dares to reach.


What a sentance. Surgical in its construction and to the point.

[muggsy]

Many different perspectives on carrying with round in or not......the conceal carry classes around here say carry "without" because you are not cop and you should avoid areas were problem should arise.

Anyone who tells you to carry with an empty chamber has never been in a gun fight. If he had been in a gun fight with an empty chamber he wouldn't be telling you anything. He'd be a dead man.

[tv_racin_fan]

Yep, I like to watch Hickock45 do his thing, that guy can shoot!

I watched the video and I'd had my gun out when I saw someone in a mask enter my garage or coming up the driveway.

OMG are you seriously thinking that was the scenario here? The guy had on the mask to PROTECT HIMSELF FROM HER PROJECTILES and it has nothing to do with the scenario.

Don't even try to tell me that you do not on occasion see people with their hands in their pockets or purses and think nothing of it. Cold winters day and a guy walking down the street with his hands in his hoodies hand warming pocket.. NAAAHHH never happens on the streets of the US.

[LonghornFan69]

That is just pure, unadulterated, bleeding heart liberalism striking its insidious drumbeat within the very soul of freedom, in a damnable attempt to plant its virus of shame within all it dares to reach.

Avoid that thinking, that philosophy, at the sake of your own life.

Very nicely said, I concur!

[rholmes69]

this lady has fantastic videos and really helped to secure my wife's confidence to carry while with our children (5yr old and under a year). She is very effective as a female voice in the field....

[LaP]

That is just pure, unadulterated, bleeding heart liberalism striking its insidious drumbeat within the very soul of freedom, in a damnable attempt to plant its virus of shame within all it dares to reach.

Avoid that thinking, that philosophy, at the sake of your own life.


Gunwriter, Clint Smith put it this way "If I knew there was going to be a shootout at Walmat today, I just wouldn't get in my car and go to Walmart. It doesn't work that way in the real world."

I remember a guy that told me he would only wear his seatbelt if he thought he was going to get into an accident. Reeeeeally. This guy could predict the exact time & day he was "Scheduled" for an accident.
Some people are born to test the Darwin Theory.:cool:

[KMA]

Many different perspectives on carrying with round in or not......the conceal carry classes around here say carry "without" because you are not cop and you should avoid areas were problem should arise.

I think that if someone says things like that he/she might be taking very strong medicines or smoking funny stuffs. Do they really think that you will never encounter BGs in good areas? BGs know how to drive too. But of course, if you live in a zombie proof house and never go out you might be safe.

[MW surveyor]

but....but....what if I'm carrying my revolver? Does this mean I've got to do a speed loader load when I......dang that hurts.

[LMT42]

Perhaps more people would feel comfortable carrying hot if they weren't encouraged to buy striker-fired pistols. Far too often, first time gun purchasers are encouraged to buy Glocks, M&Ps, etc. Frankly, I don't think inexperienced handlers should own striker-fired weapons. I bet most of these types would feel fine carrying an old-fashioned snubbie or DA/SA Sig, CZ, etc.. The margin of error is much slimmer with a striker-fired pistol. Especially ones with short, light triggers.

[KMA]

Perhaps more people would feel comfortable carrying hot if they weren't encouraged to buy striker-fired pistols. ...

In my opinion most people is not comfortable carrying chambered because of lack of knowledge. If they had some kind of formal training or at least they knew how the firearm works they should be afraid or carrying in C1. You shall know your firearm well enough to respect it but not to fear it. The other thing is that we tend to believe what the media says, and often the media says that C3 is the only safe way of carrying a firearm.



... Far too often, first time gun purchasers are encouraged to buy Glocks, M&Ps, etc. Frankly, I don't think inexperienced handlers should own striker-fired weapons. I bet most of these types would feel fine carrying an old-fashioned snubbie or DA/SA Sig, CZ, etc.. The margin of error is much slimmer with a striker-fired pistol. Especially ones with short, light triggers.


You say "The margin of error is much slimmer with a striker-fired pistol. Especially ones with short, light triggers"; that would matter if you Mexican carry, but not if you carry in a holster that covers the trigger and you also follow the safety rules. And what about if the striker fired pistol does not have a short and light trigger; should it be inappropriate too? Actually, I think that an "inexperienced" handler should not buy a snubbie. Snubbies are very cool and a lot fun, but IMO they are not the best first-guns; they are not good range guns, they are not very pleasant to shoot, and they demand much more practice than a M&P or a Glock before you can be proficient with them.

[LMT42]

You say "The margin of error is much slimmer with a striker-fired pistol. Especially ones with short, light triggers"; that would matter if you Mexican carry, but not if you carry in a holster that covers the trigger and you also follow the safety rules.

There's a reason the term "glock leg" exists, but not S&W, 1911 or revolver leg. S&it happens, and it happens more often with striker-fired weapons.


And what about if the striker fired pistol does not have a short and light trigger; should it be inappropriate too?

Up to the purchaser, but most ask for advice on the internet and are steered towards Glocks or M&Ps. You rarely see a first time buyer buying a Kahr. I think Kahrs are much safer than the aforementioned guns though.


Actually, I think that an "inexperienced" handler should not buy a snubbie. Snubbies are very cool and a lot fun, but IMO they are not the best first-guns; they are not range guns, they are not very pleasant to shoot, and they demand much more practice than a M&P or a Glock before you can be proficient with them.

A valid point re snubbies, but what good does an M&P or Glock do if they're carried with an empty chamber? There's other options though.. perhaps a Sig SA/DA.

[TriggerMan]

In my opinion most people is not comfortable carrying chambered because of lack of knowledge. If they had some kind of formal training or at least they knew how the firearm works they should be afraid or carrying in C1. You shall know your firearm well enough to respect it but not to fear it. The other thing is that we tend to believe what the media says, and often the media says that C3 is the only safe way of carrying a firearm.





You say "The margin of error is much slimmer with a striker-fired pistol. Especially ones with short, light triggers"; that would matter if you Mexican carry, but not if you carry in a holster that covers the trigger and you also follow the safety rules. And what about if the striker fired pistol does not have a short and light trigger; should it be inappropriate too? Actually, I think that an "inexperienced" handler should not buy a snubbie. Snubbies are very cool and a lot fun, but IMO they are not the best first-guns; they are not good range guns, they are not very pleasant to shoot, and they demand much more practice than a M&P or a Glock before you can be proficient with them.I agree. Train that trigger finger, buy a good holster and carry loaded. Guns are like certain other things in live. Can you go out and buy a saxophone and just start to play? Can you buy a set of golf clubs and just go to Pebble Beach and play? Some effort and training is required. People can be very lazy and also very naive.

[KMA]

There's a reason the term "glock leg" exists, but not S&W, 1911 or revolver leg. S&it happens, and it happens more often with striker-fired weapons.



Up to the purchaser, but most ask for advice on the internet and are steered towards Glocks or M&Ps. You rarely see a first time buyer buying a Kahr. I think Kahrs are much safer than the aforementioned guns though.



A valid point re snubbies, but what good does an M&P or Glock do if they're carried with an empty chamber? There's other options though.. perhaps a Sig SA/DA.

Actually, I think that the "Glock leg" exists only because the user was negligent and did not follow the safety rules. There is nothing called "accidental discharges" (with exception of mechanical defects), only "negligence discharges". And if you are a negligent it does not matter what kind of firearm you carry; if you are negligent you shall not own a firearm. I am not a Glock fan at all and you are right, many people buy Glocks because of what they read on the Internet (Glocks are perfection, Glocks can not be detected by metal detectors or X-ray machines, etc.) and it is completely wrong, but I consider that saying that a striker fired pistol is more dangerous than a DAO (that is what "the margin of error is much slimmer" implies to me) is incorrect as well. I do not recommend carrying in C3, I do not believe in "Israeli carry", but once again, most people fear to carry in C1 because of lack of knowledge, and if you do not have at least the most basic firearms knowledge – meaning they safety rules – you shall not carry a firearm at all. Just my 2 cents.

[dirtengineer]

Up to the purchaser, but most ask for advice on the internet and are steered towards Glocks or M&Ps. You rarely see a first time buyer buying a Kahr. I think Kahrs are much safer than the aforementioned guns though.




I don't understand why you think Kahrs are safer than Glocks or M&Ps. Could you elaborate?

[TriggerMan]

I don't understand why you think Kahrs are safer than Glocks or M&Ps. Could you elaborate?
If you've ever pulled a Kahr trigger, you know they go on for a day. Smooth but very long. First thought, first time, "Is this thing gonna fire?". It's also heavy enough that you must intend to fire the gun or it ain't happening.

Glocks come with 5.5# triggers, unless you specify the NYPD 11#
Kahr will be 7.5+ pounds

Glock also has special order 3.5 and 8# disconnectors to customize your gun.

[JFootin]

If you've ever pulled a Kahr trigger, you know they go on for a day. Smooth but very long. First thought, first time, "Is this thing gonna fire?". It's also heavy enough that you must intend to fire the gun or it ain't happening.

Glocks come with 5.5# triggers, unless you specify the NYPD 11#
Kahr will be 7.5+ pounds

Glock also has special order 3.5 and 8# disconnectors to customize your gun.

Point being, too, is that the trigger stroke is much shorter on the Glocks and M&Ps. Shorter, lighter trigger = ND for a small percentage of people who should never touch a gun anyway.