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340pd
02-07-2012, 08:47 AM
I bought a PJ Holster because it looked like the thinnest possible holster available in the marketplace. I was carrying in a Silent Thunder on a daily basis. I now have two options. JFootin was correct. The PJ holster product is just a little thicker than the gun itself. It is light and combortable. I have the over the belt hook and it is extremely quick to put on and remove. It hooks fine over all my double thick gunbelts. It is a joy to wear. Will it put more wear on the gun's finish? Time will tell. I really do not worry a lot about that because my carry guns are all used for a purpose. Gun wear is a badge of honor. The only improvement I could offer this holster is some sort of a sight channel to protect the top of the front sight from wear. At PJ's price, the holster is an absolute steal.
http://pjholster.com/

Now, how to compare to my Silent Thunder. They are different in a number of ways. Without question the Silent Thunder is better designed. By that, I refer to the leather lining, the molded sight channel, thicker kydex, stronger belt clip, and most of all, the unmatched adjust ability and available options from Garrett. The Silent Thunder costs twice as much but you get twice as much.
http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/

In most cases I really do not see a huge difference when I am wearing one or the other. In tighter pants the PJ wins every time. If you ever think you will want to try appendix carry, or want to play with the holster cant or ride height, the ST will give you that option. In the real world I did it right. I started with the ST and knew what to ask for when I ordered from PJ.

In my world I see a need for owning both. I appreciate the differences and thank both makers for there ingenuity. I will be return customer to both makers.

Now, on to pocket carry? No. I had that issue solved already by James Dean on this forum who make the best leather pocket holster I have ever used.
http://www.facebook.com/jamesdeangunleather

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/gnystrom_photos/BallerinavsQuarterback.jpg
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joshh
02-07-2012, 08:58 AM
i have been eying those pjhosters for a while now because i really want an iwb holster for my pm9. i like the hybrid crossbreed style holsters but dont think the pm9 is big enough to need the double hooks. maybe that pj would be perfect. looks like you did a slight cant?

center_mass
02-07-2012, 09:53 AM
I, too, almost bought the PJ holster, but ultimately decided to go with the garrett ST. I wasn't sure about it at first, but now I LOVE my ST!! Exceptional quality for sure.

I also have a remora #3 with the sweat shield, but thinking about sending that one back for one without...I can't get a good grip on the gun when drawing.

And I just ordered a MaxTuck holster from white hat holsters. Don't know why I need another holster, but they looked really good and can't wait to give that a try.

340pd
02-07-2012, 09:59 AM
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"i have been eying those pjhosters for a while now because i really want an iwb holster for my pm9. i like the hybrid crossbreed style holsters but dont think the pm9 is big enough to need the double hooks. maybe that pj would be perfect. looks like you did a slight cant?"


I considered the same type of holster you are. I came to the same conclusion. If you are carrying a light weight pistol there is absolutely no need at all for a double hook. I am now very well covered. If I feel the need to tuck my shirt the Silent Thunder will be worn. Otherwise the PJ is perfect. I know PJ does offer a tuckable model but with that comes a thicker holster. For $40 bucks or so you cannot go wrong with a PJ.
Yes I did specify a higher ride and a 15-20 degree cant. It is perfect for me. If I ever need changes in the cant all I have to do is heat and bend.

espresso
02-07-2012, 02:15 PM
340pd thank you so much for the side by side review. I'm applying for my CHP and have been looking at both holsters for my CW9. Having never carried before I've been reading all I can and trying to predict which will work best for me. I'm trying to not end up with a box full of holsters but can already see I’ll probably end up with a few that best fit what I’m wearing for the day.

joshh
02-07-2012, 02:26 PM
I considered the same type of holster you are. I came to the same conclusion. If you are carrying a light weight pistol there is absolutely no need at all for a double hook. I am now very well covered. If I feel the need to tuck my shirt the Silent Thunder will be worn. Otherwise the PJ is perfect. I know PJ does offer a tuckable model but with that comes a thicker holster. For $40 bucks or so you cannot go wrong with a PJ.
Yes I did specify a higher ride and a 15-20 degree cant. It is perfect for me. If I ever need changes in the cant all I have to do is heat and bend.

sweet. think im going to order one with same clip type and a slight cant but normal height. i would prefer minimal exposure above the waistline.
i am going to order hybrid style from rmpollard for my glock but again, think the pm9 is small enough for one clip. http://kahrtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3665&stc=1&d=1303824524

Bill K
02-07-2012, 03:43 PM
I use a Kydex pocket holster for my PM9 and there is definite and noticeable frame wear from using the holster. The wear marks are on the bottom of the frame at the very end beneath the the muzzle. I do a lot of practice draws so I'm not surprised by what I see. A nitpick I have with Kydex holsters is the noise made during the draw.

JFootin
02-17-2012, 07:15 PM
The only improvement I could offer this holster is some sort of a sight channel to protect the top of the front sight from wear.

I think you missed something. :) The PJ holster is rounded on the front side where the top of the slide goes, creating ample clearance to protect the front sight, not just at the muzzle end, but all the way to the mouth of the holster. There is no way to jam the front sight against any part of that holster when holstering or unholstering.

340pd
02-18-2012, 02:13 PM
I agree, but it is a close fit. I just like the Silent Thunder arrangement a little better for sight protection. Both are great holsters. I used the Silent Thunder tucked for the first time. It was perfect. I am really glad I own them both.

PYROhafe
02-27-2012, 09:36 PM
Ive heard nothing but good things about the PJ holsters! really makes me want to get one but it would be my first holster for my first EDC cm9 so Im nervous to order some set up I wont like. Im thinking of going with a different holster that will give me multiple options to try first, then when i figure out which position and cant i like best, ill order the PJ.

Would something like this be a good idea for figuring all that out?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IWB-Kydex-Leather-Hybrid-Holster-KAHR-PM9-/270905276742?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item84ba0ce228

tv_racin_fan
02-27-2012, 10:44 PM
That looks like it would work fine to me.

In fact I bought something similar. Would have probably got this had I seen it first.

JFootin
02-27-2012, 11:41 PM
That is a good price. It is a totally different holster than a PJ, has adjustable cant, but the wideness of it will limit your carry options. The CM9 is so small and light that a wide, 2 clip holster like that is not needed. IMO, go real cheap and pick up a DeSantis SofTuck at Midway. It is IWB, tuckable, has adjustable cant so you can try different carry positions, has leather reinforcement around the mouth for ease in reholstering, rough side out to eliminate slippage and smooth side in for a slick draw. A whole lot of holster for $20, and gives you that flexibility for experimentation.

BTW, if you don't like the PJ, or most other holsters, you will find the maker willing to take it back for a refund or to rework it to statisfy you, so don't be paralyzed with indecision. Worst case, if you end up stuck with a holster that you don't like, advertise it here at a reduced price that includes shipping. You will still get most of your money back to invest in something else.

chrish
02-27-2012, 11:42 PM
Can anybody comment on the kydex thickness between pj and comptac. Interested if this is significantly thinner than my infidel...which might make me want to give a pj a try.

Hkp7nut
03-01-2012, 12:58 PM
Hey guys. I don't know if you are like me but have had my PM9 in a Uncle Mikes holster for 3 months trying to decide which new holster to get for it!

My attire consists of either jeans or khaki's and an open button down shirt un-tucked. I do not wear undershirts.

I have tried a couple of IWB holsters that did not have the bodyguard/ sweat shield and could not stand the metal of my slide digging into my love handles.

Does anyone have a suggestion for the type of carry? I LOVE the look of the Garrett/ ST holsters but I'm afraid they will feel awkward on my skin.

Any advise is appreciated. Thanks!

jocko
03-01-2012, 01:05 PM
I have two that I carry, uncle mikes #3 and desantis, I have a few good high dollar leather rigs that I just detest. stiffer than a well driller pri-k and notghing conforms like the Uncle mikes and desantis. My question, whatis ur issue woith unclie mikes, is it thatyou think it is a cheap rig for a high dollar gun??? IMO it is one of the best and probalby it and the desantis is the most used pocket holsters out there.

Ihave lately through the winter been using my 5.11 holster tee sirt. that works just super for my pm9 AND CELL PHONE IN THE OTHER side pocket. I wear it under my hooded sweat shirt when ridng my Harley for coffee. Not gonna be a fast draw area under a sweat shirt, but I don't really worry to muc about that crap either. It is on me 24/7 and sometimes for me a sawitch fro the front pocket to this hoslter t-shirt feels good. I sure on't eveb remember it is there even..

I bought mine throgh the NRA STORE.COM...

JFootin
03-01-2012, 03:04 PM
Here are some inexpensive holsters that might work.

http://n82tactical.com/n82store/?page_id=2967

http://www.jmgholsters.com/iwb.htm (with sweat shield option)

Hkp7nut
03-01-2012, 03:31 PM
Thank you for your input. My thoughts on the Uncle Mike's No 3 is that 1) It is too tight with the CT Laserguard installed and 2) well its just not the quality I want in my pocket.

When it comes to items I carry and use every day, I not only want the best, but I want them to be esthetically pleasing.

At the same time, I am trying to choose either the thinnest lightest Pocket Carry holster for my Kahr as well as the thinnest and lightest IWB holster for it. I don't think I want kydex as stylistically, it just doesn't do it for me.

Any thoughts or input on what would be the best IWB ( cost not an issue ) for the Kahr PM9 with Night Sights and CT Laserguard in leather as well as the best Pocket holster for the same. I have hear James Dean does it well but any input would be great!

Below is my EDC so you can see what travels with me. Thanks!

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h401/hkp7nut/BestEDCPic.jpg

michpatriot
03-01-2012, 08:25 PM
That kydex holster looks real comfortable!

jaggedx
03-01-2012, 08:34 PM
Good to see I'm not the only Mini Cooper owner packing heat.

bonjorno2
03-01-2012, 08:40 PM
pjholster.com where have i heard that before... hmmm lol

PYROhafe
03-04-2012, 11:26 AM
Thanks to JFootin, i picked up a desantis sof tuck from a great member on this forum (dsom2006) for a good price, and so far it was a great first choice. As this is my first time carrying, im just trying it out around the house and i love that i can adjust it and try different placement. Its not too bad on thickness, but i want as thin as possible for shorts and t-shirt weather here, so i think this is a perfect way to figure out how im going to carry, and use that to order my set up for my PJ holster :D

muggsy
03-04-2012, 11:42 AM
i have been eying those pjhosters for a while now because i really want an iwb holster for my pm9. i like the hybrid crossbreed style holsters but dont think the pm9 is big enough to need the double hooks. maybe that pj would be perfect. looks like you did a slight cant?

You can get any cant that you prefer from PJ Holster. My appendix carry was ordered with a slight rearward cant. Paul is very accommodating in that regard.

JFootin
03-04-2012, 01:28 PM
You can get any cant that you prefer from PJ Holster. My appendix carry was ordered with a slight rearward cant. Paul is very accommodating in that regard.

Not only so, but you can heat it up and rebend it to adjust the cant.

Hkp7nut
03-05-2012, 12:09 PM
Good to see I'm not the only Mini Cooper owner packing heat.


HAHAH LOVE IT! What did the good Roosevelt say once " Drive a MINI and carry a big gun" haha