View Full Version : New to CCW with new CM9
almalave
02-20-2012, 06:16 PM
I've been going to the range now for almost ten years, but I'm new to CCW and just bought a CM9. I live in Puerto Rico and work as an MD visiting terminal patients in their homes ten hours a day. Mostly I wear black scrubs.
In your experience guys, what method of carry would you recomend? I mean, It's really hot around here. Haven't bought any holsters yet. ankle holster? IWB?
Thanks for your replies.
Tinman507
02-20-2012, 06:18 PM
IWB for sure. Not sure what holds scrubs up? Belt, draw string?
Bill K
02-20-2012, 06:24 PM
Welcome to KahrTalk.
Are the scrub pants just held up with a draw string or do you wear a belt? Is the top tucked into the scrub pants or worn out over the pants? You mention ankle carry, does this mean that you don't feel you'd need to get to your CM9 to quickly?
You'll get lots useful advice here.
almalave
02-20-2012, 07:42 PM
I just bought a couple of scrubs with belt loops. Just need a good nylon belt. I definitely feel the need for a quick draw, but want to weigh my options because haven't got the experience.
JFootin
02-20-2012, 08:32 PM
I just bought a couple of scrubs with belt loops. Just need a good nylon belt. I definitely feel the need for a quick draw, but want to weigh my options because haven't got the experience.
What you need is the SmartCarry (http://www.smartcarry.com/), which has it's own belt. That way, you don't have to worry about a thick gun belt with your scrubs. It provides complete, uncompromised concealment. And worn under scrubs, the gun can be drawn quickly.
LonghornFan69
02-20-2012, 09:25 PM
You can also go to www.tactipac.com and take a look at the FusionPac, it is a holster that has its own Velcro belt.
WI carrier
02-20-2012, 09:55 PM
i saw a tee shirt with a velcro holster under either arm at a gun show recently, seemed to work very nice. i cant remember the actual name but i think it shouldn't be hard to find
jlottmc
02-21-2012, 08:12 AM
A belly band may also be good for you, or the thunder wear, or a fanny pack, or the smart carry or a kangaroo holster, or a rig from http://stellarrigs.com/kydex.html, they do a kydex worn on a neck chain, or maybe an ankle holster. Just some thoughts. I for one would not try to use a belt holster in a pair of scrubs for love or money, use instead something that has it's own method for supporting the weight, miniscule it is.
Athensm50
02-21-2012, 09:20 AM
I use the Belly band EVERYDAY.....it is VERY comfortable.....it would work perfect with scrubs......I wear it up around my chest....under left arm.
Bill K
02-21-2012, 09:53 AM
Before retirement I used SmartCarry (http://www.smartcarry.com/) nearly every week day while at my corporate office job. Shirt should be tucked otherwise draw gets more awkward.
If you're going to wear a belt then pocket carry is a possibility depending on pocket size and scrub material not allowing much printing. I personally really like pocket carry and my PM9 works in 80% + of my pants.
JFootin
02-21-2012, 10:11 AM
Shirt should be tucked otherwise draw gets more awkward.
Do you mean tucked inside the smartCarry? Probably not a bad idea for unobscured draw. The SmartCarry rides well below the belt line up front and its belt rides on the hips just below the belt line. You wouldn't want your pants sagging and exposing any of it, though. Maybe just tuck the shirt under it in the front and leave the shirt over the belt at the sides and back. That way, nothing would be revealed when you bent over.
I hope Thunder71, who carries at work using a SmartCarry, will chime in here.
almalave
02-21-2012, 10:51 AM
The fusionpac looks great, a little pricey though. I'll have to give them a call, Kahr is not listed as available.
BEARDOG
02-21-2012, 11:16 AM
http://www.remoraholsters.com/
If your pants have a drawstring then the Remora would work well.
They are very well liked by many people for CC while wearing sweats or gym shorts,etc, with no belt at all. They are really comfortable and also it is a smaller footprint then the others mentioned so it should be cooler as well. They can be used as a in waistband holster(IWB) or a pocket hoster too.
almalave
02-21-2012, 01:22 PM
Thanks for all your replies. Many choices. Decision time....
Probably will end up buying a couple of them and see what works best.
Bill K
02-21-2012, 01:37 PM
Do you mean tucked inside the smartCarry? Probably not a bad idea for unobscured draw. The SmartCarry rides well below the belt line up front and its belt rides on the hips just below the belt line. You wouldn't want your pants sagging and exposing any of it, though. Maybe just tuck the shirt under it in the front and leave the shirt over the belt at the sides and back. That way, nothing would be revealed when you bent over.
I hope Thunder71, who carries at work using a SmartCarry, will chime in here.
I would put my shirt on then put SC on. I did not have the back of my shirt over the SC belt like some do. The SmartCarry is an excellent holster to use in a non-permissive environment. Took maybe a week to get comfortable with the holster and to learn rest room techniques.
Drew78
02-21-2012, 02:10 PM
I am new to the site, but not new to CCW...
My expierence is that if you think you will need to draw your weapon quickly a belt supported holster is going to be best. Such as an IWB holster. I find them easier to gain access to my pistol from a vatriety of positions. Say you get knocked down or your tied up in a physical struggle, you can sweep your cover garment out of the way and get to you pistol with one hand and do it quickly. Same can be said for having to move QUICK while performing your draw, comming out of a IWB belt supported holster, no problem. I realize there are times where it may not be prudent based on exterior forces to belt carry, but I really believe that it offers the most consistent access to your sidearm. After all, if you have decided you need to draw your pistol, you are already behind in the fight....
just my 0.02....
Best of luck!
-Drew
SpecK
02-21-2012, 03:22 PM
I am new to the site, but not new to CCW...
My expierence is that if you think you will need to draw your weapon quickly a belt supported holster is going to be best. Such as an IWB holster. I find them easier to gain access to my pistol from a vatriety of positions. Say you get knocked down or your tied up in a physical struggle, you can sweep your cover garment out of the way and get to you pistol with one hand and do it quickly. Same can be said for having to move QUICK while performing your draw, comming out of a IWB belt supported holster, no problem. I realize there are times where it may not be prudent based on exterior forces to belt carry, but I really believe that it offers the most consistent access to your sidearm. After all, if you have decided you need to draw your pistol, you are already behind in the fight....
-Drew
Well said. Thats the exact reason I wont do ankle holster. "Hey BG, please wait while I bend over and fix my sock..." uhh no, IWB is the way to go but I do think a strong argument can be made for the belly band especially in hot weather and thin clothing (think Puerto Rico and scrubs)
Good luck
Bawanna
02-21-2012, 03:42 PM
I think under a loose fitting set of scrubs this might be a good place for a shoulder holster. The holster shirt works good but the pockets under each arm are enormous and even a 1911 fits with plenty of room to spare so a little Kahr would be swimming around in there.
Cheapest place I've found those is the NRA store. I have one, but I rarely wear it. It would be a great stand alone shirt but under another shirt it takes up alot of space.
A good Galco SSII with the wider shoulder straps might work pretty well. Maybe a half t shirt like the weight lifters wear so it's not directly on your skin and the scrub shirt over it might be a good option.
In defense of the ankle holster, it's the cats backside sitting in your car. Much easier to reach than a belt gun with seat belts etc in the way. I never call the ankle gun my primary except hanging around the house. When I go someplace something is on the hip.
jocko
02-21-2012, 03:58 PM
actually I kinda like the holster wshirt, I admint i dont wear it enough but lately I have been wearing it undermy hoded sweat shikrt. now that is a combination of not so fast a draw area. Those under the arumpit pockets are big but not tht bigt, I actualy don't put a loose gun i there,I still put my PM98 in there with my desantis, just caustious I guess. and my cell phone in theother pocket. It feel much better if I wear it over at ee-shi9rt even inseat of the spandex type shirt being right on my body. I kinda like it for what it does, not sure it was ever designed as a fast draw shirt but it certainly is very concealable. I just need to wear it alot more.
almalave
02-24-2012, 03:55 PM
Ordered the remora a couple of days ago. I'll give it a try and go from there. If it feels too loose then there is the tactipac or the smartcarry. I'll post my review when it gets here, usually takes a tad longer.
almalave
03-04-2012, 08:42 AM
Got the remora and it definitely works as advertised. Works well with the scrubs or any other drawstring shorts, just as long as the string is tight or the draw is going to be awkward. I'm still getting the scrubs with the belt loops and a good belt for an iwb holster. I think I'll feel more confident that way. Now I just have to make a decision on which one to order, Crossbreed, comp tac, or many of the other ones available. I just don't want to end up with a drawer full of unused CC holsters.
Bottom line, the Remora does work fine, but it has it's applications.
HeyGuysWatchThis
03-04-2012, 07:55 PM
The fusionpac looks great, a little pricey though. I'll have to give them a call, Kahr is not listed as available.
I like this idea, very similar to my solution (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=10107), but ready to go out of the box. On another forum I read about someone that special ordered one for a Kahr the other day.
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