Remington Golden Saber 124G HP

[Allen]

Does anyone have any experience with the Remington Golden Saber 124G Jacketed HP in their Kahr PM/CM9s? I'm looking for some HPs for my new (not to the range yet) CM9 but the Remingtons are the only HPs the local gun shop has in store at this time. Clerks were all busy so didn't ask if that is all they ever carry. And at $20/box for either 20 or 25, couldn't tell looking through the locked ammo case, I didn't want to buy something my Kahr might not like. Plenty of round nose Winchester and Federals at Wally World.

[FLBri]

I use Golden Sabre's in my 9's including PM, MK, and T Series. I've not had any misfeed or ejection issues

[jocko]

it is a very good round,

[O'Dell]

I've used GS's for years in various calibers. I've found that they will cycle in pistols that don't like other HP's, like my old SIG P6.

[Rubb]

Buying online in 50 round boxes will save ya some boot.

http://www.kylesgunshop.com/store.php?seller=KylesGunshop&navt1=50216&per=5&num=5

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammunition/9mm-9x19

[wyntrout]

You can also get the BONDED 124-gr Gold Dot +P in 50-round boxes... has Gold Label saying "Bonded" and "B" in the product number. The Regular Gold Dots are BJHP = Brass-Jacketed HP.

http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/gshpj_b.htm

50-round boxes here @ $26.95 or $24.95 for 10 or more boxes:

http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/50-rds-9mm-124-grain-p-bonded-remington-golden-saber-ammo-gsb9mmd

The Rem Golden Sabers and the Speer Got Dots are great Defense ammo.
I use the 124-gr Gold Dot +P Short Barrel version in my PM9. Had the Bonded Golden Sabers been available, I would probably be using them, but I had to resupply with what was available and "reasonably" priced.

Wynn:)

[MikeG]

I've been testing golden sabres and gold dots in both 124 and 147 gr varieties. No failures in over 100 rounds of each. The 147 gr golden sabres seem most accurate for me, but not by too much. PM9

[PYROhafe]

Just wondering here... How many rounds of a HP should I run before I consider it a suitable round for self defense?

[wyntrout]

After break in with 200 rounds or so of FMJ. I would shoot at least a box of 20... more if you can afford it, to make sure that they feed and function reliably. I usually buy 200 or 250 rounds of defense ammo and shoot a box of 50 for reliability and function testing if it's a change of ammo.

With my carry ammo, Speer Gold Dots. I shot a box of 50 of the LE/DUTY version... cheaper... and carry the Short Barrel version... 127-gr +P in my PM9 and 230-gr in my PM45. I use 165-gr Gold Dots in my P40 because the Short Barrel version is only available in 180 grains.

I use Buffalo Bore 90-gr +P JHP in my P380 for CCW, and I keep CCI Stingers in my .22's for defense... my Walther TPH and my wife's H&R 929... nine-shot revolver.

I keep Remington Bonded 230-gr Golden Sabers in my S&W 645 for defense. It got where I couldn't find the Bonded GS and had to switch to Speer Gold Dots for the Kahrs... SB in the PM45 and regular GDs in the SA Champion 4" 1911 and SA XD45 Tactical 5".

Wynn:)

[xrmattaz]

After testing several HP's in my CM9, I settled on the Golden Saber as being the most accurate/best feeding of the bunch. That 's obviously what I carry in my little pistol.

[SDGlock23]

I've only ran 124 +P's and 147 Golden Sabres out of my PM9, but they ran perfectly.

[Indigo]

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n618/devito99/7f52dbeb.jpg

Yeah they work.

[Athensm50]

I like it!

[chrisw670]

I've run two boxes of the Remington GS 124 gr +p thru my CM9 without a hitch. I want to cycle at least one more box of 20 before calling it good though.

[rmoody]

Wynn, I am having some confusion determining the difference in the "short barrel" and regular. I am not seeing any of the Golden Sabers labeled as such. Could you enlighten me on the subject? I this just the 124gn +P? Another question, is the bonded version available as a "short barrel" version? Thank you.

[Ljutic]

The Short Barrel ammo comes from Speer in their Gold Dot line. The only varience in the Golden Saber ammo is some are bonded and some are not. Based on my testing of the standard pressure 124 grain GS last weekend, I'm not convinced that it's worth the effort or additional cost to chase the bonded version for general defensive purposes.

The short barrel Gold Dots do run about 50 fps faster than the standard gold dots from my PM9. All gold dots are bonded so you will not see a bonded variation on the gold dot. Personally, I wouldn't bother chasing the short barrel version of the GD line because the standard version is cheaper in boxes of 50 and that allows for more practice with carry ammo.

[jocko]

the short barrel GD sure sound sto me like a very good ADD HYPE by speer. 50fps more would not be worth a penneymore than the standard GD defense rounds. Just sayin The corbon dpx round with the barens all copper bullet is pretty hard to beat IMO..:blah: Not cheap, butneither is life.

[Ljutic]

When I said 50fps, I was actually being kind. In my testing, it's about 30 fps faster. In my house, HST rules the roost. I'd use it for everything if I could find sufficient quantities in 9mm, .40, and .45 acp. That said, there's nothing at all bad about Golden Saber or Gold Dot. My preference for HST comes only from slightly faster velocities and the petals don't flatten back as much as the GS. Corbon may also be fantastic, but I've never tested any of it.

Two of my blog entries on 9mm ammo from 3" barrels.
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/02/more-db9-terminal-ballistics-tests.html

http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2011/08/terminal-ballistics-test-diamondback.html


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/BDSBruce/Blog%20Photos/140a56f9.jpg

[stuch77]

i carry REM GS in my cw45 cm9 and my nano. in my extra mags for each gun i use hornady CD. both work great in my guns. so i figure if i have to reload in self defence if one flavor didn't do the job maybe the other will stop the threat. both are very accurate in all three weapons. and both are the non +p version.