View Full Version : What size Computer Monitor do you have?
TheTman
02-22-2012, 04:30 PM
I'm building some websites, and was just wondering, what size monitor do you all use? I'm just curious so I know what size to make my pages.
Bill K
02-22-2012, 04:35 PM
The three i my household are either 20" or 21" flat screen.
TheTman
02-22-2012, 05:14 PM
I got stuck using a 17 inch CRT, with very few adjustments available, and was scrolling left and right and up and down to read pages. Drove me crazy. Kahrtalk was one of the worst, had to scroll left and right to read every post.
I happened to be in an Office Depot yesterday to look at a 20 inch one they had for $89.00, and they had a $200.00 23" LCD on clearance for $115, but only had the floor display model left, so being the cheap bastard that I am, I asked for more of a discount since it was the floor display, and they gave me another 10% off. I put that one down in my music studio, and hooked my 22 inch back up here to the computer I use the most. Makes a world of difference.
So I'm just wondering who's using what size monitor so I can make my web sites easy to read for the majority of folks. It used to be easy when everyone had a 14, 15, or 17" CRT monitor, now there's a wide variety to choose from, that I like to make my pages fit on the majority of the screens in use, without having to scroll left or right, up and down doesn't seem to matter so much since many of us have mouses (mice? sounds like an infestation to me) with wheels that will let you scroll up and down easily.
THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATES!!!
pocket pistol
02-22-2012, 05:23 PM
Mines 17" its a flat screen. But I do use my laptop sometimes. It's like a 15.6 or something like that...
MW surveyor
02-22-2012, 05:30 PM
Nothing wrong with trying to get a better deal.
That said, I've got a 22" monitor and in reality should have gone with a 24" for the majority of the work I do on the computer. What really POMO (pizzes me off) is having to scroll left and right on some web sites. Up and down, not a problem.
TheTman
02-22-2012, 05:31 PM
I'm not really taking laptops into account, I expect to have to do some scrolling when using mine. I'm just wondering what you use when you sit down and do your email and check Kahrtalk and all the other things you do on your home computer.
Barth
02-22-2012, 05:36 PM
Samsung 24" Widescreen LED HD Monitor
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/SKUimages/gallery/large/S203-2118-v02-ec.jpg
23" 16:9 on my desktop, but the primary laptops range from 13.1" to 15.6" 16:9. All but the 13's screen resolutions are set at 1920x1080. That one is 1600x900.
Which one I use depends on where I am and what I'm doing.
chrish
02-22-2012, 06:28 PM
You really should build to a resolution and not a monitor size. Monitor res varies greatly and with laptops, smartphones, and tablets in he mix now, it even more important to pick something for your main site that works in as many places as possible. You might want to run some searches on Web UI design specifically around this subject of width. You can't go too wrong building fixed width to 800px. 900px is also pretty common.
yep....screen resolution, and aspect ratio by default, is what matters. Screen size proper isn't really relevant.
chrish
02-22-2012, 06:53 PM
To answer the actual question. I pretty much use a 1920x1080 display for work, dual 21" at home for that. At client sites I am on my laptop 15.6" at 1920x1080. Sometimes a second monitor there when possible, whatever res I can get. But for that, doesn't matter how a particular site is built, at that res, everything fits.
But for surfing, email, general home use, I am typically on my tablet and I prefer to see sites that fit in less than 1024px (that's why 900px) is popular because 1024px wide res allows for the vertical scrollbar and a bit of margin.
tv_racin_fan
02-22-2012, 08:31 PM
Mines a 21" CRT I believe.
Seems to me that 1024 is what most are today maybe alot of 900 and I hate having to scroll sideways. Mouse buttons can scroll up n down but you gotta click on the bar or button on the browser to scroll sideways.
AJBert
02-22-2012, 09:37 PM
I gave up on desk tops a few years ago. I'm currently on my new 14" laptop, downsized from a 15.6".
So I didn't vote.
TheTman
02-22-2012, 10:02 PM
Yep resolution is very important, but with screen size I can kind of figure on the resolution, like a 17" CRT many times will have 1024x768 as the "best" resolution, and maybe go up to 1280xwhatever, 19-20 inch monitors often have 1600x900 as the max resolution, and bigger ones often have HDTV resolution or close to it, like my 22" has 1680x1050. Monitor size does give me an idea of what resolution people are using. Like the 17 inch monitor I was using got really flaky if you went above 1024x768. And any CRT smaller than 17" will usually have 800x600 or maybe 1024x768 for best readability. I have a couple laptops, and 17", 22" and 23" monitors I can check out my work on. I used to make pages fixed at 800, but with more people buying the bigger monitors, it's nice to be able to use the extra width they provide. I like to use around 1200-1400 for my fixed width now, so it doesn't take up the whole screen, yet gives me plenty of room to work with.Of course that makes you have to scroll on the older monitors and some laptops depending what resolution you are using. It's tough to design something that looks good on every monitor, so I try and build what looks good for the majority of the people. Kahrtalk is definately a pain in the butt for 1024x768 on that 17" monitor I was using for awhile, I tried using the 1280x960 for awhile but it was hard to read with these old eyes. Then you can use a larger resolution, but set the print to be larger so you can read it better, but you might as well go back to 1024x768, and use the smaller print. I had one customer that used 19 inch monitors at his business, and a 15 inch monitor at home and wanted me to make his page look "right" on both of them. So I'd build a page for a 800x600 resolution, then he'd go to the office, and complain it was too small on the monitor, so I'd make a 1200 width page, and he'd be happy until he went home and he had to scroll. That guy about drove me nuts.
The reason I'm asking is I'm doing a page of Kahr accesories, holsters, and lights and things, and want most of us to be able to view it without doing a lot of left-right scrolling.
O'Dell
02-22-2012, 10:29 PM
I use a 28" flat screen - at first it was a bit large but I've become use to it.
TheTman
02-22-2012, 10:45 PM
Wow, 28 inches, that would be nice.
tv_racin_fan
02-23-2012, 02:43 AM
Yeah but monitor size don't tell the whole story. I can't see to read well so I use a resolution that others may scoff at when my monitor it capable of better or I adjust to compensate and a website designed for the resolution I am using I got to scroll sideways.
steve666
02-23-2012, 06:26 AM
My monitor wasn't one of the poll choices. I currently have a 17" LCD, though I plan to upgrade to a 19" LCD soon.
OldLincoln
02-23-2012, 12:26 PM
I use 2 17" 4:3 LCD screens. Together it's 26" wide X 11" high and about 29" diag. Haven't tried to figure out the ratio (8:3??). At 1024 x 768 pixels on each, I have enough font size to see and enough screen size to fit. I can full size separately on each monitor without having anything weird.
20" now, but soon moving up to a 24" or bigger. I'm getting older. My eyes ain't getting sharper.
Starting with a VIC-20 connected to a 12" black & white TV, I've slowly burned out my eyeballs starring at this stupid/seductive/mesmerizing screen.
OldLincoln
02-23-2012, 09:53 PM
20" now, but soon moving up to a 24" or bigger. I'm getting older. My eyes ain't getting sharper.
Starting with a VIC-20 connected to a 12" black & white TV, I've slowly burned out my eyeballs starring at this stupid/seductive/mesmerizing screen.
My first computer was a Kaypro CPM with a 4" amber screen. I found a game called Colossal Caverns that hooked me into hours and hours. Of course no graphics in those days as well as hard drives or mice and the screen was composed of __xx_o__| with you being the "o". It was command line entry so you type "walk forward 6 steps" followed by "look around" trying to find any object you needed to proceed. I even mapped the caverns out because the next time was starting over without saved games. I totally wore out a 7" floppy drive playing that game. My eyes felt sucked into the screen after hours of playing that.
"Similarly", I got Sim City when it first came out and stayed up many nights with that one. I was better with Myst and did okay with Riven. Now it's just Sudoku every morning trying to wake up my brain.
TheTman
02-23-2012, 10:15 PM
LOL Old Lincoln. Did you ever Hunt the Wumpuss? Sounds real similiar to Collasal Caverns. I had an old something Like the Vic 20 to, maybe that's what it was. Used a little color tv for a monitor. Was a ***** though as I didn't have a tape deck hooked up to save. Then I finally saved up and ordered a Windows 95 kit. That lasted a long time, now I build a new one every couple of year or so, or soup it up. I have a Black edition Phenom III that I could run up a few thousand hz, but it get's too hot. I got some kind of chiller for this AMD 5000 BE processor, have it overclocked from 2600 to 3200 I can take it up to 3400 ok, but I like the way it runs at 3200, and it stays below 35 degrees C. Might have to get one of these for the phenom and see what she will do when she stays cool. You have to take your whole mother board out,and remove part of the old fan connecto frame and run some piece up thru the MB and then grease the CPU and attach the right parts to the fan and crank em down with a wrench. Best cooler I've ever used.
OldLincoln
02-24-2012, 10:09 AM
Is the chiller a water system? When I was into hardware a few years back that was the thing for overclockers. Also saw a pic of a PC in a refrigerator to keep it cool (and quiet). Also seen lots of 6" fans mounted on top of the chassis.
Is the chiller a water system? When I was into hardware a few years back that was the thing for overclockers. Also saw a pic of a PC in a refrigerator to keep it cool (and quiet). Also seen lots of 6" fans mounted on top of the chassis.
OVERCLOCKING
There's a term I haven't heard in a long time. Ahh, the things us old folks had to do just to get a few extra clock cycles.
Remember RAM Resident programs? (Using that memory above the 640k limit) :rolleyes:
Barth
02-24-2012, 12:28 PM
OVERCLOCKING
There's a term I haven't heard in a long time. Ahh, the things us old folks had to do just to get a few extra clock cycles.
Remember RAM Resident programs? (Using that memory above the 640k limit) :rolleyes:
I remember 8k of memory and no hard drive.
Programs were entered in binary via toggle switches and
were stored on an audio cassette tape.
But I digress
This is why I look at a 24" LCD, a 2TB hard drive, 16gb RAM, a video card that would have run my entire system a few years ago, and I'm just wondering when it'll slow down.
I've been asking myself that question since about 1982. My Commodore 1541 cassette drive was just starting the ten minute process of saving my 2kilobyte manually typed-in BASIC program that I copied out of COMPUTE magazine.
P.S. I never could get into Assembly language.:o
TheTman
02-29-2012, 02:41 AM
This Chilltec thing is just a heavy duty hightech fan that works about as good as a water cooling system. You have to have the motherboard out of the case, and put a backplate under the CPU to hold it in place, the main piece is about a 6x6x6 cube with heat pipes going down to some electrical device that pulls the heat out of the cpu. When it got here, I had to measure my case to make sure it would fit. It barely did.
I never got much into the old DOS systems, our office got started with IBM OS/2 which I was a great product for it's time. I think with better marketing it could have really taken off. It ran Windows 3.x programs better than Windows did. Didn't crash or lock up near as often as Windows machines did, and if it did lock up, you could jump back into the OS/2 part of the system, then reopen the windows emulator and take off again without rebooting. We used them to replace the dumb terminals, so we could write our COBOL code and store it without tying up the mainframe resources. That setup was crazy, the mainframe we did our coding on was in NYC, and here we were out in the middle of Kansas. They spent a fortune on satellite systems, T1 lines, and whatever they could come up with to tie us, and Scranton PA, Greensville SC, San Francisco, and a bunch of other places together. And we had 2 big mainframes right in the next room, with about 3 basketball court sized rooms full of disk and tape drives, I remember it being a big deal when we reached a terabyte (1000gb) of disk storage back there. Now I have about 4 terabytes on the PC's around the house.
Well, I guess this poll was a big waste of your time. Kahr is not going to let me advertise my web site here, because I have products that compete with the Kahrshop items and those of the major sponsors. No hard feelings, they're just trying to protect their market share like any good business does. It's kind of a sucks for me, I put quite a bit of work into some pages featuring products for Kahrs; holsters, and flashlights and stuff at pretty decent prices. I didn't do it to try and take advantage of you all, I just thought I had some good deals to share. I never figured that Kahr wouldn't let me advertise here. Guess I should have thought about that before hand. Also should have noticed I haven't seen any new holster makers or anything since the ad policy went into effect. There was other stuff like sport's stuff, and electronics and computer stuff and things, but everything links back to the home page where you can get to the Kahr stuff. It's kind of silly, Kahr says you have to pay to mention your products, then won't let you cause they might lose a dollar. I don't think they're taking advertising for anything. I don't get why they even mentioned advertising, if they won't let you advertise Kahr related stuff. What else would you want to advertise here? They should just say no advertising.
Thanks for everyone that participated, it still gives me a general idea of what percentage of people are using what. The website will still get put up, I just can't tell you where it's at. I put it on the back burner for awhile, and been working on other things, like my recording studio in the basement, getting equipment together, and lining the walls with material to deaden the reflected sound. It looks real funny down there now, have a mixture of foam and heavy blankets and furniture pads hanging all over the place. I need to take some video, and then put a couple tunes I recorded up on Youtube. I got a dirty version the 20-30 year olds really like called F*** it, and a clean version called Forget it. I doubt if many of you all would like it, it's kind of a techno beat mix of crap, geared towards the younger generation, I have some young people that want a copy so they can make their cars go boom boom boom down the street. A lot of it is a drum machine and some sound effects, with some guitar, bass and a hair of vocals I added.
That all's been fun and a welcome diversion from building web pages.
Sorry for the book, got to quit drinking so much coffee late at night and rambling on the computer.
That all's been fun and a welcome diversion from building web pages.
Sorry for the book, got to quit drinking so much coffee late at night and rambling on the computer.
If you were a true ol'timer programer, you'd be chugging Jolt Cola.;)
Sorry your plan didn't get off the ground. Hey, it kept you off the streets and outta trouble.
jlottmc
02-29-2012, 08:23 AM
Depends on which computer I'm on. If it's my lap top 15.4 (usually on Saturday and Sunday) I have no idea what the work computer screen is (Monday through Wednesday), then there is my phone, and the wife has a Kindle Fire as well.
U.S. Patriot
02-29-2012, 08:25 AM
I use my TV as a monitor.
JFootin
02-29-2012, 08:55 AM
I use my TV as a monitor.
Funny. I use my monitor for a TV! :typing:
OldLincoln
02-29-2012, 11:58 AM
Sorry that happened Tom. A long time ago it seems I saw advertising on the top banner but selected something that hid it. Also saw the post about not advertising unless you paid for it which I took as they allow it. Maybe you could let them put their advertising logo on your page if they allow the same.
But it is their forum so we do play by their rules. It is a fine forum at that.
TheTman
02-29-2012, 12:29 PM
I was a programmer before they had Jolt Cola, we had to use Mtn Dew in the middle of the night. Strictly COBOL for the most part, with a smattering of RPGII, and later on some Visual Basic. Now I can write computer viruses, muhahaha. Although I think the people that write those should be shot.
Old Lincoln, I think the only way they'd let me advertise is with a banner. And I can't afford that. I guess that comes with having the manufacturer also run the forum. But really I have no hard feelings, and this remains the best gun forum on the net as far as I'm concerned. Any other forum would probably have kicked me out for telling what happened. In fact I feel sorry for Johnh, the Marketing people left it to him to give me the bad news. They had my email, they could have contacted me themselves.
I guess it was the Marketing Dept. that had the final say from what I understand. Johnh was very nice with my rejection letter, and I doubt he took any pleasure in having to write it.
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