Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Obama's birth certificate a fake

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73537.html

[Thunder71]

Shouldn't this be proven before one even runs for president? I mean, come on - it's a basic requirement, why was it so difficult to produce in the first place?

I have to make a copy of mine just to fly out of the country, it's not hard to get and cost like $20.

Well, it's not hard to get if you actually HAVE ONE.

[Frankhenrylee]

This sounds familiar...

[muggsy]

Whether or not Obama is a citizen of the United States is of little consequence to me. He is a radical progressive socialist bent on destroying free market capitalism and I plan on voting him out of office.

[Scoundrel]

From the article:
"Arpaio’s probe comes after the Justice Department accused the sheriff of violating constitutional and civil rights in a “pattern of misconduct” that involved targeting and mistreating Latinos. A DOJ investigation released in December found that there was “reasonable cause” to believe Arpaio was involved in discriminatory policing practices, such as unlawful stops, detentions and arrests of Hispanics.
Although objections to the authenticity of the president’s birth certificate have been widely debunked, some conservatives continue to make the country of the president’s birth an issue."

Sounds to me like he's trying to deflect some negative attention away from himself. Probably wears a tinfoil hat and believes the moon landings were faked, too.

[LMT42]

Sounds to me like he's trying to deflect some negative attention away from himself. Probably wears a tinfoil hat and believes the moon landings were faked, too.

I think he has an election coming up too. He just wants publicity.

[Scoundrel]

Oh, right! All publicity is good, even when you get it my making yourself look like an ass. Silly me, I forgot.

[1radman]

From the article:
"Arpaio’s probe comes after the Justice Department accused the sheriff of violating constitutional and civil rights in a “pattern of misconduct” that involved targeting and mistreating Latinos. A DOJ investigation released in December found that there was “reasonable cause” to believe Arpaio was involved in discriminatory policing practices, such as unlawful stops, detentions and arrests of Hispanics.
Although objections to the authenticity of the president’s birth certificate have been widely debunked, some conservatives continue to make the country of the president’s birth an issue."

Sounds to me like he's trying to deflect some negative attention away from himself. Probably wears a tinfoil hat and believes the moon landings were faked, too.

D you actually believe the Obama/Holder justice department?
Sheriff Joe is one of the few guys courageous enough to fearlessly ENFORCE the law along the southern border. His reward is to be unjustly targeted by our president and Attorney General...the same guys responsible for the "fast and furious" nightmare.
Looks to me like Obama and Holder are the ones deflecting here.

[Scoundrel]

D you actually believe the Obama/Holder justice department?
Sheriff Joe is one of the few guys courageous enough to fearlessly ENFORCE the law along the southern border. His reward is to be unjustly targeted by our president and Attorney General...the same guys responsible for the "fast and furious" nightmare.
Looks to me like Obama and Holder are the ones deflecting here.

I've said too much already, and won't do myself or anyone else here the disservice of arguing it further. So please, count me out of this discussion.

[mr surveyor]

most of us living in border states that have kept up with Sheriff Joe's work for the last 10-15 years hold him in pretty high regard. No doubt that Joe is on the current administration's "enemies list".

[1radman]

Good guess. As a matter of perspective to most Amerians, Sheriff Joe's juridiction in the Phoenix area is "along the southern border" and we appreciate his efforts.

[gwbiker]

I am guessing you do NOT live in Arizona . . . http://home.mindspring.com/%7Ejustsomeguy/icon_lol.gif

Maybe he doesn't live in Arizona, but I do...........and in Pima County, as do you.

I'll take Joe Arpaio over Clarence "Dipstick" Dupnick any day.

[Armybrat]

I have always liked Sheriff Joe, but he needs to distance himself from the Looney Tunes birther conspirancy.

Obama IS president and will be until next January when I hope he gets voted out. People need to deal with it.

JMHO

[muggsy]

Can anyone please explain why Obama would have spent millions defending against lawsuits instead of simply presenting us with his birth certificate when his citizenship first came into question? I'm not saying that Obama isn't a citizen of the United States. I'm just curious about his spending habits and his logic.

[dkosto]

I think he has an election coming up too. He just wants publicity.
This....and he has a book coming out.
I'm not duped by his shenanigans.

[JFootin]

This....and he has a book coming out.
I'm not duped by his shenanigans.

But you swallow Obama's deception and spin without even chewing? Have you looked at the actual evidence from multiple expert document analysts who say that, unlike a paper document that has been scanned into PDF format, it has multiple layers clearly revealing (to the experts) that much cut and paste and alteration has been done to the document? Or that ALL of the signatures look exactly alike as if cut and pasted? Or that the name of the hospital he was supposedly born at did not exist until several years after his birth, when two hospitals merged that existed seperately under different names at the time of his birth? So, some liberal news wags have dismissed and poo-pooed every questionable thing about Obama (which could fill several volumes!). And you just accept their spin without looking at the evidence yourself with an unprejudiced eye for the truth?

[mr surveyor]

This....and he has a book coming out.
I'm not duped by his shenanigans.


interesting first post on a firearms forum

[Chief Joseph]

EXACTLY, I'm thinking this is from nobamas internet watch group. His virtual brown shirts, to go with his community organizing/labor union physical brown shirts.

[Chief Joseph]

Bravo Sheriff Joe. It's amazing those against Joe have no problem with nobama/holder NOT enforcing our border, or enforcing voter intimidation laws perpetrated by the black panthers, which there was more than enough evidence of. Yet Joe is their target, a REAL American trying to protect this country. It's also a shame that many believe whether nobama meets the CONSTITUTIONAL requirement to be president is meaningless. There is a big difference between it being "settled" to it being settled by the liberal media and liberal courts. If this were a Republican, the main stream media and every democRAT would be screaming for PROOF, and not the weak supposed proof he's shown. I guess it's ok for nobama and his party to violate every law we have, meanwhile, the Tea Party is being targeted by the irs and occupiers are allowed to devastate areas with all the slime they bring and they're given a free pass. Keep going Joe, we need more like you.

[TheTman]

Chief Joseph, you're so right, if it was a Republican in office the media would be screaming their heads off wanting "proof", then dissecting the truth bit by bit until they found something to scream about, but since it's their darling being questioned, it's all just jealous rebublican attempts to de-legitmize Obama's presidency.
And of course you can't have a Sheriff actively deporting future Democrats, how horrible. Just because he's president, doesn't mean they can't remove him from office if it's proven he doesn't meet the requirements to hold the office. They should null and void any bill he's signed and remove from office any judge he's nominated too.

[O'Dell]

Another example of wasted time and effort. Isn't it obvious yet that Obama could be proved to be a serial killer, and it would make little difference to most people.

[Popeye]

If you ask me his whole life and presidency is nothing but smoke and mirrors.

[muggsy]

From what I've seen Joe's biggest fault is that he treats criminals as if they were criminals. Not surprisingly the recidivism in his county is very low. Not may of his guests want to extend their vacations. I think that Joe provides a very valuable service for the county at a very reasonable cost. You go, Joe.

[CJB]

No matter what you think about the birth certificate, its authenticity, and the motives of the Sheriff and President/administration, there is one fact that is beyond argument.

The President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, is a bastard.

[Armybrat]

No matter what you think about the birth certificate, its authenticity, and the motives of the Sheriff and President/administration, there is one fact that is beyond argument.

The President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, is a bastard.

He's more of a snobby a-hole, IMO.

If Romney wins in November, he should appoint Sheriff Joe as head of Homeland Security.

[CJB]

Bastard - n., ˈbastərd, a person, especially a male person, who's parents were not married

arsehole - n., asˌhōl, 1. an anus 2. a person of contemptible character 3. a person who commits questionable acts, a fool


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Obviously, we're both correct.

[Chief Joseph]

He's more of a snobby a-hole, IMO.

If Romney wins in November, he should appoint Sheriff Joe as head of Homeland Security.

OOH, I LIKE that one.

[TheTman]

I wrote my congressmen and asked since they have control of the house, why they don't investigate these allegations. I said Obama has spent too much time and money trying to hide something that anyone of us should be able to produce IF HE HAD ONE. I mentioned if it were a Rebublican in office, that the Dems would be leaving no stone unturned to get to the bottom of it, and they need to start acting like the Dems would in this matter. I'm not a "birther", but why all the time and effort to hide a document that should be easily obtained IF IT EXISTS.

[muggsy]

It's my understanding that Obama couldn't locate his birth certificate until just recently. He found it under a pile of Hillary Clinton's Rose Law Firm documents. :)

[Thunder71]

How the hell did he get this far without one is what I want to know.

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[TriggerMan]

Can anyone please explain why Obama would have spent millions defending against lawsuits instead of simply presenting us with his birth certificate when his citizenship first came into question? I'm not saying that Obama isn't a citizen of the United States. I'm just curious about his spending habits and his logic.The assumption within your question has been disproven. He isn't spending millions...or even thousands. He's ignoring conspiracy theorists who can never be satisfied. They wanna believe so badly it clouds their reasoning.

[TheTman]

I've ignored the birthers for the most part, but when you have the Sheriff of a large Arizona county, with experts at his disposal calling the birth certificate a fake, it does tend to make you wonder about things. Why did it take years for him to produce a document anyone should be able to get in a couple months time. And how does anyone know how much he's spent on covering up the missing document or having one forged? Ignoring people doesn't mean they aren't right, just means you don't want to deal with them, why not deal with it and put the matter to bed, IF you have the document? If it was a Republican in office the Dems would be raising hell about it, and the media would be all over it. Seems like Mr. Obama has led a pretty mysterious life going from a nobody a graduate of Columbia to an community organizer, to state senator to US senator then on to President in a ridicoulously short time. He's chummy with left wing criminals and the Chicago Democratic machine. Makes me wonder a lot about the man leading our country to ruin.

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What would happen if an investigation into Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president launched by “America’s toughest sheriff” – Joe Arpaio of Arizona’s Maricopa County – actually led to Obama being ousted from office?

If the election ballots carrying Obama’s name were ruled null and void because of Obama’s ineligibility to be on them, some have speculated, Vice President Joe Biden wouldn’t be duly elected either, meaning the Constitution’s order of succession would make Speaker of the House John Boehner, R-Ohio, president until the next election.

But that’s an awfully big “if.”

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Hmm, President Bo(eh)ner? Wasn't that bill Clinton? :rolleyes:

[Armybrat]

It's my understanding that Obama couldn't locate his birth certificate until just recently. He found it under a pile of Hillary Clinton's Rose Law Firm documents. :)

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[muggsy]

The assumption within your question has been disproven. He isn't spending millions...or even thousands. He's ignoring conspiracy theorists who can never be satisfied. They wanna believe so badly it clouds their reasoning.

He may be ignoring the conspiracy theorists, but he can't ignore the courts. Not even Obama is above the law. He has spent millions defending against these cases in court when all that he had to do was present a birth certificate.

[TriggerMan]

He may be ignoring the conspiracy theorists, but he can't ignore the courts. Not even Obama is above the law. He has spent millions defending against these cases in court when all that he had to do was present a birth certificate.Each and every candidate has legal bills connected to wrapping up their presidential campaigns. Obama's, as a percentahe of the funds raised for his campaign, are the same as McCain and Clinton. Obama's are a little higher due to three FCC actions (where Obama prevailed) but still the grand total was $2.8 M. McCain spent $1.3M. These expenses are not itemized as to topic but is anyone arguing McCain spent "millions" defending HIS Citizenship? He spent half what Obama did because he raised half of Obama's war chest. If I recall correctly, it was $750-780M.

Bottomline, expenses where inline with totals and other candidates. It's fantasy to say these were all connected to hiding a birth certificate.

[Ubaldo99]

Arpaio... Arpaio... Hmmm... That name sounds vaguely "foreign" does it not? Wonder if he can produce his birth certificate?! Seriously, this guy, Arpaio, is a COUNTY official. If Im a Maricopa County (hmmm...that sounds vaguely "foreign") taxpayer/resident, I have to seriously question why my sheriff is spending so much of his time and resources researching this birth certificate conspiracy business...not to mention all the time he spent a few weeks ago accompanying our idiot Governor (R.Perry) on the campaign trail. I mean, the folks in this jurisdiction (Collin County) would be screaming bloody murder if our sheriff was doing this stuff. Good grief.

[TriggerMan]

Arpaio... Arpaio... Hmmm... That name sounds vaguely "foreign" does it not? Wonder if he can produce his birth certificate?! Seriously, this guy, Arpaio, is a COUNTY official. If Im a Maricopa County (hmmm...that sounds vaguely "foreign") taxpayer/resident, I have to seriously question why my sheriff is spending so much of his time and resources researching this birth certificate conspiracy business...not to mention all the time he spent a few weeks ago accompanying our idiot Governor (R.Perry) on the campaign trail. I mean, the folks in this jurisdiction (Collin County) would be screaming bloody murder if our sheriff was doing this stuff. Good grief.Please, No Facts allowed.

[JFootin]

You know the honeymoon is over when the comedians start.
Read below for a laugh!

The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree...and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
--Jay Leno

America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno

Q: Have you heard about McDonald's new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien

Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno

Q: What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers, and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
--David Letterman

Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon

Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel

Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
--David Letterman

Solution to the problem in Syria: They want a new Muslim leader…Give them ours.

[TriggerMan]

You know the honeymoon is over when the comedians start.
Read below for a laugh!

The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree...and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
--Jay Leno

America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno

Q: Have you heard about McDonald's new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien

Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno

Q: What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers, and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
--David Letterman

Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon

Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel

Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
--David Letterman

Solution to the problem in Syria: They want a new Muslim leader…Give them ours.You made me smile. They're all funny.

[yqtszhj]

Can anyone please explain why Obama would have spent millions defending against lawsuits instead of simply presenting us with his birth certificate when his citizenship first came into question? I'm not saying that Obama isn't a citizen of the United States. I'm just curious about his spending habits and his logic.

Because everything about him is fake. He's pretending to be a leader at the moment....

[jlottmc]

What do you think the odds that Terry Box won't be re-elected, there Ubaldo? I know for a fact he has a very nice jail, and has done much for Collin County as Sheriff.