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Mattkcc
03-05-2012, 11:20 PM
I've had my CM9 for several months and put 300 to 400 rounds through the gun with no problems till this week. Was at the range couple of days ago and first magazine full gun worked fine. But on the second had a failure to eject, had trouble clearing it so dropped the mag to get the round out. Shot another round same thing. While trying to clear it I notice the slide wouldn't move rearward far enough to eject the round. Took the gun home broke it down everything looked fine nothing broken that I could tell. Gave it a good cleaning put it back together and seemed to function fine. However, went back to the range today and it did the same thing. Broke the gun down again can't see anything broken or bent, however, when I reassembled the gun the slide will only go back about 2/3 thirds of the way. Looks like I will be sending it back to Kahr, back to carrying my LCP for a while. Owned a lots of guns over the years but this is the first one I've ever had to send back to the factory.

kerby9mm
03-06-2012, 01:21 AM
Is the slide stop in all the way. Is the screw for the stop wire tight. Cycle it without the RSA. There are things you can check before sending it back.

stuch77
03-06-2012, 09:13 AM
look at your recoil spring guid rod i bet you the inner spring has come out of the crome sleeve that covers it. call kahr they will send you a whole new assembly. i keep 2 extra in my range bag.

Popeye
03-06-2012, 10:55 AM
Don't mess with it, you shouldn't have to. . Send it back.

jocko
03-06-2012, 12:12 PM
I think I would get a new RSA before sending it back. Here is something to look at.

take the outter recoil spring with the open end that should aways be towards the front of the slide and reverse it o that recoil tube. Does it slide up and down on tha outter recoil tube???Or does it bind up???If it does not slide freely, then with some tweezers just open up that end tip a tad, and sadn that tip smooth and retest. If it now slides up and dwon OK on the outter tube, then reverse it and reinstall correctly and retest. U can retest this manually to. To me sounds like it is inthe RSA, but an easy check to do.

bandrich
03-06-2012, 02:34 PM
Don't mess with it, you shouldn't have to. . Send it back.

+1 absolutely. As long as you have your trusty LCP let them worry about it. Mine has been gone a week with two to go. Not a big prob. :cool:

jocko
03-06-2012, 02:47 PM
question: why would one not want to contact kahr and see if they would send him a new RSA to try before boxing up the gun and being without it for 3 to 4 weeks. Ur not doing a mod here, ur just putrting in a new RSA unit, which IMO sound like the issue in the first place. Then if that fails, call kahr anbd let them pick up the gun. Makes no sense to me.

WOW it seems anymore we are getting so paranoid over some of these things that the first hing we want to do is box up the gun and send it back without trying a simple exchange fix of a new RSA. Just sayin.

kerby9mm
03-06-2012, 03:11 PM
Kahrs aren't Toyota gas pedals.

Mattkcc
03-06-2012, 03:35 PM
The RSA looks fine I reversed the spring and it doesn't bind and the inner is in the crome sleeve and works fine , the slide stop is in all the way and the spring screw is tight. Looks like it's headed back to Kahr, it's my carry gun and it's got to be reliable.

jocko
03-06-2012, 03:37 PM
probably the right thing to do.

getsome
03-06-2012, 04:02 PM
I agree, send it back if the RSA looks right....I got to wonder if in the rush to get the new CM9 pistols to market for the coming pre election gun buying frenzy that Kahr may have missed something with the quality control of the slides...There have been a little too many posts with slides sticking back and now this one with it not going back all they way...I hope not but these things happen when any new product is rushed to the market...I know the slide is supposed to be nothing new but there are just too many slide issues going on for something mechanical not to be causing it...I would send it back so they can resolve whatever it is...

When the P380 first came out Kahr had many send backs in order to correct something causing jams and miss feeds..They seem to have corrected that early problem now and the later ones seem to function correctly...They found the problem eventually but it took a while...

I really think there is a common connection to all the CM9 slide issues folks are having since they came out but the bottom line is Kahr will fix it and they should be paying the freight cost as they did with all the P380's sent back...

You are armed well enough with the LCP until the 9 comes home...Let them take care of your pistol and make it right!!!

jocko
03-06-2012, 04:06 PM
something has sure changed after 400 good rounds.

Mattkcc
03-07-2012, 12:19 AM
The slide on my CM9 looks well made and solid, but my frame internals have always looked rough and not up to the same standards as the slide. I really like the size of the CM9 but worried they may be pushing the limits of how small a 9mm can be made and still be reliable over the long-term. That's one reason I don't shoot the gun a lot, just enough to keep proficient, for high volume shooting I stick with my Glocks. I worry the new CM40 will be pushing the envelope even more, time will tell.

DKD
03-07-2012, 11:02 AM
The CM 9 and CM 40 my be a new comer to the line of Kahr's but I seriously doubt that that there new to market is the reason for the problem at all. The PM line has been out for a long while and has a stellar performance history which I can attest since I own a PM9. The CM9 and PM9 share the same frame, internals, and slide, so it isn't a design problem due to a newly manufactured piece.
I would say that due to the high demand for the new pistol, that possibly Quality Control has lacked up some...can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be afraid to shoot the hell out of either one of your pistols. If your that concerned take some pictures and call Kahr and see what tahey have to say about their fit & finish with regards to your frame concerns.

DKD
03-07-2012, 11:06 AM
Lie JOCKO stated earlier if it isn't functioning properly & consistantley senf it back to Kahr and I am sure they will correct the problem.

Popeye
03-07-2012, 11:44 AM
Kudos to the dealer.

muggsy
03-07-2012, 01:01 PM
question: why would one not want to contact kahr and see if they would send him a new RSA to try before boxing up the gun and being without it for 3 to 4 weeks. Ur not doing a mod here, ur just putrting in a new RSA unit, which IMO sound like the issue in the first place. Then if that fails, call kahr anbd let them pick up the gun. Makes no sense to me.

WOW it seems anymore we are getting so paranoid over some of these things that the first hing we want to do is box up the gun and send it back without trying a simple exchange fix of a new RSA. Just sayin.

I agree with Jocko, you can get a new recoil spring assembly from Kahr within a few days. If that doesn't fix it then send it back. You aren't out a darn thing.