Problem with night sights

[tilefish]

Ok so I got my Trijicons from Kahr yesterday and had them installed today. So first off, these are nice sights and far exceeded my expectations as far as brightness. However, I am having a hard time focusing with/through them in low/no light. I don't know if I just need to get used to them or what. I get confused/double vision when I try to aim as I normally would. Any pointers on how I can train my eyes to adjust to them? Or is it simply a matter of practice? Honestly I was a bit discouraged and I am second guessing my decision. Perhaps I should have gone with XS big dots...

[mr surveyor]

sounds like astigmatism

been there done that... still there

[tilefish]

Maybe. I have actually been planning on visiting an eye doctor soon. The more I look at these sights, the more I think its my eyes and not the glowing tritium. Maybe they are just too small for my aging eyes? I also have to take into account that I am exhausted, did not sleep well and my eyes have been bothering me all day. Maybe I just need some sleep..
I never had this problem with my XD, I guess I will have to look at them side by side in the morning. The XD is locked away and I do not feel like getting it.

[mr surveyor]

do the tiny dots of the night stars look a bit elongated, or not as sharp and clear as they used to, or have you just slowly, over time, adjusted your perception to them "looking normal"?

[tilefish]

do the tiny dots of the night stars look a bit elongated, or not as sharp and clear as they used to, or have you just slowly, over time, adjusted your perception to them "looking normal"?


not that I recall, but my eyes are getting old. Additionally, I stare at a computer monitor all day at work...before coming home and staring at this monitor.
I can focus with either eye but I cannot keep both open and see anything other than six dots lol

[Bawanna]

My problem with most night sights is I cant see them in the daylight. One thing I like about the XS is they are pretty clear and positive in any light or lack thereof.

[wyntrout]

I just took my 2-year-old PM45 into the dark utility room and all six dots seemed the same brightness. With the right eye they are easily lined up and with the left eye they are not, but I only use the right ones. That seems normal to me... just more noticeable than in light... that there are SIX DOTS.:D

Wynn:)

[hsart]

do the tiny dots of the night stars look a bit elongated, or not as sharp and clear as they used to, or have you just slowly, over time, adjusted your perception to them "looking normal"?

I agree with mr surveyor... I have same issues. I would replace the trijicons with XS Big Dots. All of your symptoms are from tired and aging eyes and probably some degree of astigmatism. Definitely get an eye exam. If you have the bucks a good opthamologist can also give you a prescription for bifocals where one part will focus on your front sight. Another solution is to black out the rear sights... makes it much easier to capture front sight. Trijicons are just not bright and big enough for my eyes. This has been a constant headache for me... I'm probably getting lens transplants within a few years due to cataracts and that should partially or totally solve my problem. Aging eyes is just a fact of life. Good luck.

[muggsy]

My problem with most night sights is I cant see them in the daylight. One thing I like about the XS is they are pretty clear and positive in any light or lack thereof.

Of course you can't see them in the day time. That's why they call them night sights. Duh! Your supposed to use them as conventional sights during the day. You know, the kind of sights that we had before the manufacturers started "improving" sights putting dots and bars on them. I'm telling you this younger generation is soft. And I thought that I had nothing to look forward to by getting old. Being a curmudgeon is fun! :)

[jeepster09]

All I can say is that I love my XS Big Dots.:biggrin1:

[wyntrout]

If you can't get the Tritium-Bar rear sight, all you have in the dark is the front sight... AND I HATE the too-low-vee rear sight. :rolleyes:

My S.A. Champion 1911 came with the "Express Sights"... standard front Tritium dot and low-vee rear. They were mismatched and I took them off and sent the pistol to Novak and had decent adjustable Novak Night Sights put on... 3-dot. Their lamps are by Trijicon, I believe.

Wynn:)

[flieger67]

I can focus with either eye but I cannot keep both open and see anything other than six dots lol

If it helps, when you see six dots, the trio that is on the side OPPOSITE your dominant eye side is the correct trio to use for aiming.

Another solution is to consider closing your non-dominant eye to make aiming easier and to protect the night adaption of the non-dominant eye.



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[jg rider]

Ok so I got my Trijicons from Kahr yesterday and had them installed today. So first off, these are nice sights and far exceeded my expectations as far as brightness. However, I am having a hard time focusing with/through them in low/no light. I don't know if I just need to get used to them or what. I get confused/double vision when I try to aim as I normally would. Any pointers on how I can train my eyes to adjust to them? Or is it simply a matter of practice? Honestly I was a bit discouraged and I am second guessing my decision. Perhaps I should have gone with XS big dots...

if I can make a suggestion: Try blacking out the rear dots/lens and only use the front dot. You may find as I did that it makes for less confusion.
With enough practice people learn to use only the front sight and sight along the top of the slide. Muscle memory puts your gun in the right position.
An old trick that was used for youngsters was to remove or tape off the rear sight and let them sight along the barrel or slide of bb or pellet guns.

[tilefish]

if I can make a suggestion: Try blacking out the rear dots/lens and only use the front dot. You may find as I did that it makes for less confusion.
With enough practice people learn to use only the front sight and sight along the top of the slide. Muscle memory puts your gun in the right position.
An old trick that was used for youngsters was to remove or tape off the rear sight and let them sight along the barrel or slide of bb or pellet guns.

I had a similar suggestion on another forum. I might try a green sharpie on the rear sights, which will make them appear dimmer but not completely black them out.