Modified PM9 Base Plates

[jg rider]

Has anyone else modified K9 mag base plates for PM9 mags?

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/My%20Kahrs/005MyPM9.jpg


http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/KakrPM9Mod002.jpg


http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/KakrPM9Mod003.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/KakrPM9Mod001.jpg

[BOBBO268]

Did you do that? I'd rather have mine look like that than the crappy tin looking mag i got now :)

[Pogi]

Can the stock magazine be blued (black), at least the exposed base portion? That way the gun might look better, so to speak. I would have tried that but my gun and I are currently oceans apart

[almalave]

That looks great. I might try it with a Cw9 base plate I have.

[jg rider]

Can the stock magazine be blued (black), at least the exposed base portion? That way the gun might look better, so to speak. I would have tried that but my gun and I are currently oceans apart

I believe the the mag an base plate are S.S. and if so S.S.can't be blued

[jg rider]

That looks great. I might try it with a Cw9 base plate I have.

There's a lot of sanding to be done at the top of the plate so that the mag will seat with out hitting the frame first. The nice thing is it doesn't stick any further down then the steel plate, it just looks so

[jg rider]

Did you do that? I'd rather have mine look like that than the crappy tin looking mag i got now :)

Yes

[Tilos]

And ended up with this, with a lot less sanding/shaping.
That pinky pinching gap is GONE now:p
Plus it came with the gun, so I had to buy...nothing:D

[kb2wji]

I took the butt plate off my pm9's mag and put it on my k9's mag. I like the look of the steel butt plate on the k9 since its a steel gun. Then I realized the K9's butt plate wont really work on the pm9's mag. Why doesnt Kahr just put a little extra love into the mag design, sheesh. .....then I pick the k9 back up again, and all little nit picky problems are forgotten :)

[gb6491]

Nice work on the base plate jg rider (you too Tilos):)


Can the stock magazine be blued (black), at least the exposed base portion? That way the gun might look better, so to speak. I would have tried that but my gun and I are currently oceans apart


I believe the the mag an base plate are S.S. and if so S.S.can't be blued
The mags are stainless steel, but they can be chemically blackened by "DIY" folks (see TucsonMTB's posts in this thread:
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7995)
FWIW: stainless steel can be "blued" using Oxynate No.8 (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1103/Product/OXYNATE-reg-NO-84-HOT-CHEMICAL-BLUING-COMPOUND), but it requires a hot bluing setup.
Regards,
Greg

[kcabbage]

I used a MK9/PM9 base plate when I had a P9

[BOBBO268]

is there a write up on how to do this.....?

[jg rider]

is there a write up on how to do this.....?

What I seem to remember that I did first was to shave down the top of the plate. The factory height of the base plate won't allow the mag to lock in. So I have a piece of thick glass for a flat surface, tape a piece of course sandpaper on it and and sand down the tops. Filing didn't work for me. I would suggest you take a height measurement with calibers before starting. Make something like 10 passes and then take another measurement, so that you get an idea of how much you sanded off. This will also tell you about how many passes you need if you're doing more than one mag.
Test to fit often

I didn't like leaving the toe on because it got in the way of allowing my little finger from grabbing the the new base plate. I used a dremel tool for this. you can use a file.

Then back to the sand paper to sand down the rim around the bottom of the plate. Here you need to sand on an angle because the rim is thicker at the toe than at the heel.

[Thunder71]

Mine fit my PM9 with no modifications.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6168/6218433029_a89ec325c0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwnauman/6218433029/)
Custom Kahr PM9 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwnauman/6218433029/) by N0YZE Photo (http://www.flickr.com/people/cwnauman/), on Flickr

[jg rider]

And ended up with this, with a lot less sanding/shaping.
That pinky pinching gap is GONE now:p
Plus it came with the gun, so I had to buy...nothing:D

I thought also of that, but it was too thin for my purposes. I wanted the wider sides that almost matched the grip and the ridge at the bottom of the plate for my little finger to grab on to

[jg rider]

Mine fit my PM9 with no modifications.


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6168/6218433029_a89ec325c0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwnauman/6218433029/)
Custom Kahr PM9 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwnauman/6218433029/) by N0YZE Photo (http://www.flickr.com/people/cwnauman/), on Flickr

Thats interesting. They wouldn't fit on either of our PM9s. I had to modify all six of my base plates to get them to seat without slamming them in.

[Thunder71]

Mine is this one:

http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW.asp

[jg rider]

Mine is this one:

http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW.asp

I wouldn't think so.

http://www.kahr.com/GetDynamicImage.aspx?dir=itemImages&path=Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW1580.jpg&w=326&h=278 (http://www.kahr.com/GetDynamicImage.aspx?dir=itemImages&path=Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW1580.jpg&w=652&h=556)


http://www.kahr.com/GetDynamicImage.aspx?path=Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW1580.jpg&w=65&h=48

Polymer Magazine Base Kit (9 mm and .40 S&W)

Kahr polymer magazine base kit for 9mm and .40 S&W allows for the replacement of your existing polymer base. Will not fit on Kahr magazines with a steel base.

It says not for mags with steel bases. If that would fit my PM9s then that means it would have a big gap on a K9
Do you still have the plastic mag release or a steel one?

[jg rider]

I wouldn't think so.

http://www.kahr.com/GetDynamicImage.aspx?dir=itemImages&path=Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW1580.jpg&w=326&h=278 (http://www.kahr.com/GetDynamicImage.aspx?dir=itemImages&path=Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW1580.jpg&w=652&h=556)


http://www.kahr.com/GetDynamicImage.aspx?path=Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW1580.jpg&w=65&h=48

Polymer Magazine Base Kit (9 mm and .40 S&W)

Kahr polymer magazine base kit for 9mm and .40 S&W allows for the replacement of your existing polymer base. Will not fit on Kahr magazines with a steel base.

It says not for mags with steel bases. If that would fit my PM9s then that means it would have a big gap on a K9
Do you still have the plastic mag release or a steel one?

You know, you got me thinking. Several weeks ago, when I had to deal with Kahr to install my F.O.sights in place of my diminished nite sights. I dealt with one of the officers of the company. This guy was legitimately into guns. We talked a long time, on his dime, on the phone about guns. While talking I emailed him pictures of my customized Kahrs. He asked me what were the base plates on the PM9s. When I told him what they were, he said they wouldn't fit. I explained what I did. The last thing he said was he was going to look into them

[Thunder71]

I'll see if I can dig up the order to make sure.

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[gb6491]

Thats interesting. They wouldn't fit on either of our PM9s. I had to modify all six of my base plates to get them to seat without slamming them in.
It appears that the PM series had a frame change somewhere along the line. jg rider's PM looks like it began life as a full size frame then was cut down to PM size; notice how the the side stippling goes to the bottom of the frame and the last row of nubs on the front strap is also right at the bottom (I've seen some where that last row appears somewhat sanded down). Thunder71's PM has a defined bottom to the side stippling. That bottom and the front strap nubs also start well up from the bottom of the frame. Perhaps the frame length is shorter on the seemingly dedicated frame (that would explain why the plastic base plate works without modification on some PMs and not on others).

...
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/My%20Kahrs/005MyPM9.jpg
...


Mine fit my PM9 with no modifications.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6168/6218433029_a89ec325c0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwnauman/6218433029/)

Regards,
Greg

[Tilos]

Good catch...a bobbed covert...or somthin':rolleyes:

[jg rider]

It appears that the PM series had a frame change somewhere along the line. jg rider's PM looks like it began life as a full size frame then was cut down to PM size; notice how the the side stippling goes to the bottom of the frame and the last row of nubs on the front strap is also right at the bottom (I've seen some where that last row appears somewhat sanded down). Thunder71's PM has a defined bottom to the side stippling. That bottom and the front strap nubs also start well up from the bottom of the frame. Perhaps the frame length is shorter on the seemingly dedicated frame (that would explain why the plastic base plate works without modification on some PMs and not on others).



Regards,
Greg

Wow! That is strange, I didn't notice. Both our PM9s are VC series. Her VC56--, mine VC93

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/My%20Kahrs/005MyPM9.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/Jos%20Kahrs/007JosPM9.jpg


http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/Jos%20Kahrs/PM9Pistols.jpg

Greg, I think you've uncovered another mystery. Nice going :)

[jg rider]

It appears that the PM series had a frame change somewhere along the line. jg rider's PM looks like it began life as a full size frame then was cut down to PM size; notice how the the side stippling goes to the bottom of the frame and the last row of nubs on the front strap is also right at the bottom (I've seen some where that last row appears somewhat sanded down). Thunder71's PM has a defined bottom to the side stippling. That bottom and the front strap nubs also start well up from the bottom of the frame. Perhaps the frame length is shorter on the seemingly dedicated frame (that would explain why the plastic base plate works without modification on some PMs and not on others).



Regards,
Greg

Also the muzzle end of his slide is beveled.

I wonder if thunder's PM has a screw holding on the frame side plate instead of a pin like mine do

[TucsonMTB]

It appears that the PM series had a frame change somewhere along the line.
I noticed that too, back when I was first shopping for a PM40.

Based on pouring over pictures on GunBroker.com and elsewhere during that shopping process, I believe the new plastic frame mold was introduced at the same time the new bevel was added to the front of the slide.

I guess Kahr spent some money on new tooling at that time. ;)

[Thunder71]

The mystery, it has been solved!

Good eye fellas, it appears the beveled slide wasn't the only change.

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[LorenzoB]

This is my first post here... by the way, awesome forum!

jg rider and Tilos, your mods look better than the factory option. Maybe some finer grit sand paper and a little water will make it not so "scratchy" looking.

I just got a CW9 and I have been looking for options to make the magazine look "cleaner" with the bottom of the frame. Lot's of interesting mods out there (some good, and some so so), but most of them require sanding and/or cutting. I have access to a CNC machine and I think I am going to try and figure out how to make my own base plate out of aluminum. I'll post some photos (if they turn out good). I won't post anything if they look terrible. :D

[LorenzoB]

.... I believe the new plastic frame mold was introduced at the same time the new bevel was added to the front of the slide...

What year do you think that was?

I just noticed the KahrTalk logo in the upper right (PM9?) shows the older style with the stippling down to the bottom and no bevel.

[jg rider]

This is my first post here... by the way, awesome forum!

jg rider and Tilos, your mods look better than the factory option. Maybe some finer grit sand paper and a little water will make it not so "scratchy" looking.



Geez ! Another critic :) I was going for the rustic look.

Welcome aboard LorenzoB

John

[wagon]

here's mine... Bought a used 7 rounder and swap out the tin plate. All I did was just to sand down the top end, the lip at the bottom doesn't bother me one bit.

It is now fugly-no-more .. alas, another free-labor to finished the unfinished job for the mighty Moons.

BTW, about the comment on the chop-down full size frame ... I guess those must be left over from their obsolete "convert" ... whatever they can find from the parts-bins.. nothing goes to waste. LOL

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lEtPJ7aSRRY/T2e8pl2XuiI/AAAAAAAAAwg/Dbdot8qgvM0/s400/Kahr%2520mags.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b9J76TmXAzY/T2AcQ49J9jI/AAAAAAAAAtc/NYcsX8u6zWI/s400/cm2%2520finger%2520rest.JPG

[LorenzoB]

Geez ! Another critic :) I was going for the rustic look.

Welcome aboard LorenzoB

John

Rustic? Is that what that is called. If you're going for rustic, you should burn the edges and hit it with a chain. :rolleyes: LOL! Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I think it looks great, and definitely nicer than the stock plate. I'll try to keep the critiques to a minimum.

Thanks for the welcome!

[jg rider]

Rustic? Is that what that is called. If you're going for rustic, you should burn the edges and hit it with a chain. :rolleyes: LOL! Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I think it looks great, and definitely nicer than the stock plate. I'll try to keep the critiques to a minimum.

Thanks for the welcome!

It has been distressed. Look at the bottom, it's been dropped a few times onto gravel

[TucsonMTB]

This is my first post here... by the way, awesome forum!

jg rider and Tilos, your mods look better than the factory option. Maybe some finer grit sand paper and a little water will make it not so "scratchy" looking.

I just got a CW9 and I have been looking for options to make the magazine look "cleaner" with the bottom of the frame. Lot's of interesting mods out there (some good, and some so so), but most of them require sanding and/or cutting. I have access to a CNC machine and I think I am going to try and figure out how to make my own base plate out of aluminum. I'll post some photos (if they turn out good). I won't post anything if they look terrible. :D
Awesome! If you do something you are proud of, I believe you can expect some requests to purchase a few. :)

[BOBBO268]

rider, so are these what you're buying? and are you using the metal or plastic piece between the spring and base plate?

http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW.asp

was going to order one, modify, and give to my father to duplicate from aluminum, but for 23 dollars with shipping, i think i'm going to pass :(

[LorenzoB]

Awesome! If you do something you are proud of, I believe you can expect some requests to purchase a few. :)

Yea, that would be cool! But we'll see how they turn out first. It would certainly help offset the cost to do this project. Either way, I cant stand the way it is now, and I know I can make it better match how awesome the rest of the gun is. I took all the measurements from my mags and started modeling the part... I think it will turn out pretty cool.

[jg rider]

rider, so are these what you're buying? and are you using the metal or plastic piece between the spring and base plate?

http://www.kahr.com/Magazines/Kahr-Polymer-Magazine-Base-Kit-9-mm-and-40-SandW.asp

was going to order one, modify, and give to my father to duplicate from aluminum, but for 23 dollars with shipping, i think i'm going to pass :(

Geez this isn't much better.

http://www.kahr.com/Parts/Kahr-K9.asp

When I bought 6 of them they cost about 4.00 ea. for the plates. I think you'll need to buy the locks also because IIRC the button on the stainless lock isn't long enough to hold the plate in place

[Tilos]

LorenzoB:

There's a member here that made a prototype mag base before, with plans to build an injection mold for it.
Ol'coot came up with an great design but has fallen off the radar since then, but here's a link to the thread.
Something like what's in the 2nd pic of Ol'coot's 1st post would please me and I'd be up for buying a few.

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3243&highlight=mag+base

[jg rider]

LorenzoB:

There's a member here that made a prototype mag base before, with plans to build an injection mold for it.
Ol'coot came up with an great design but has fallen off the radar since then, but here's a link to the thread.
Something like what's in the 2nd pic of Ol'coot's 1st post would please me and I'd be up for buying a few.

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3243&highlight=mag+base

What I like about my design is the bottoms flair out and the tip of my pinky can grip the flair. And the slight toe on the front helps hold my grip in place

[LorenzoB]

Wow, thanks for finding that for me! I have a lot of reading to do just to catch up on this topic. His solution looked great! But I can understand about tooling costs for injection molds. Machining instead of injection molding will make each part more expensive, but initial costs are very low comparatively.

I can see there is strong demand out there for a good solution, so if I make some extras to begin with, it shouldn't be too hard find good homes for them.

Thanks for the input too!

[PYROhafe]

My home would be a perfect loving fit for any of those "extras" :D always willing to do some adopting

[gb6491]

... Machining instead of injection molding will make each part more expensive, ...
That certainly seems the case here: https://www.collectors-society-slabs.com/shoppingcart/products/Kahr-Mag-Extensions-.html
Regards.
Greg

[BOBBO268]

i'm just interested in a plain bottom instead of the sharp one we got.. not even so much with the finger extension...

[TucsonMTB]

That certainly seems the case here: https://www.collectors-society-slabs.com/shoppingcart/products/Kahr-Mag-Extensions-.html
Regards.
Greg
Hey! 42 . . . the answer to life the universe and everything . . . With apologies to Douglas Adams. :rolleyes:

Another lottery win purchase list item, I'm afraid. Book marked. Thank you, sir.

[LorenzoB]

That certainly seems the case here: https://www.collectors-society-slabs.com/shoppingcart/products/Kahr-Mag-Extensions-.html
Regards.
Greg

Yea, I saw that. I feel he has that priced too high, and there are no photos I can find showing how it looks with the mag in the frame.

I hope to get some more time to work on it this week. I'll let you know if I have anything to show. I may have some questions for all the experts here too (that is not sarcastic just in case anyone tries to read it that way). Thanks!

[Tilos]

LorenzoB:

I would prefer a composit (plastic:o) rather than aluminum.
Plus it would be easier to machine.

I had been in touch with Ol'coot, back then, and what makes his design so much better than most is that the base extends rearword to the back of the grip, forming a kind of palm swell for the short grip on the CM/PM guns.

The transition to the gun grip could be so much better if the stock grip was NOT radiused on the bottom.

With a backround in machining, I had dreams of doing this, at home with a bench top cnc, but life has gotten in the way for me, much like Ol'coot.

I've been waiting for someone like you to come along and pick up this project and continue with it.
I have fixturing, tooling and programing ideas about this and offer my help to you.
Tilos

[LorenzoB]

For me, the aluminum would actually be easier to machine (chips can't mix for recycling and I don't feel like cleaning out the machine before and after). ;)

Aluminum machines like butter anyways with good equipment and carbide tools, and you can anodize it whatever color you want. The only reason I could think of using plastic is the feel of the temperature difference on the grip if I make a version with a pinky extension, but I don't think that would bother me. The thinner areas plastic would be weaker than aluminum. Black Delrin (plastic) could be a good option, but I would need to check it's chemical compatibility.

Ol'coot's design looks awesome how it blends to the bottom of the grip and meets up with the backstrap. That is one of my plans... to make it look like the polymer frame and magazine were engineered together rather than the "afterthought" look. Right now it looks like the designers said "oops we forgot this thing needs bullets, quick, someone find a magazine that will fit before we get fired!". :D You're right, the radius on the back/bottom of the grip does make things a bit more difficult (but not impossible) for this plan.

The other plan is to make one that is just really low profile, black, and close the gap some between the frame and the base plate.

Tilos, I definitely welcome the help, and I may need to "pick your brain" on this soon, but I need a little time to get further along first so I know what questions to ask.

[jg rider]

I'm just thinking. Are we trying to reinvent the Covert

[TucsonMTB]

The other plan is to make one that is just really low profile, black, and close the gap some between the frame and the base plate.
That would be awesome! I would be hoping to buy at least two, or perhaps as many as four depending on cost. Admittedly, my wife might suggest that our existing bases are "good enough". :rolleyes:

So many toys . . . such a limited budget! ;)

Best of luck with your project! :D

[Tilos]

The other plan is to make one that is just really low profile, black, and close the gap some between the frame and the base plate.

See my pic in post #8:D

$8.80 from Kahr...why bother making one:confused:

http://www.kahr.com/Pistol-Parts/Kahr-045PM9-Magazine-Base-7-round.asp

just sayin'

[LorenzoB]

See my pic in post #8:D

$8.80 from Kahr...why bother making one:confused:

http://www.kahr.com/Pistol-Parts/Kahr-045PM9-Magazine-Base-7-round.asp

just sayin'


I saw that you took the extended one from Kahr and modified it. It looks good. Better than the original for sure. I just think there is still room for improvement, and you still had to make it by cutting and sanding. My "cutting and sanding" comes in the form of a CNC machine. When I get a chance to make something cool, I like to use the machine instead of whipping out my Dremel. :madgrin:

I'll post a photo later of a mounting plate I made for my camera so you can see what I mean.

[LorenzoB]

I'm just thinking. Are we trying to reinvent the Covert

:confused: huh?

[jg rider]

:confused: huh?

My mind is going. It looks like everybody here is trying to extend the grip for an all finger hold. IIRC Kahr made a pistol called The Covert that had a P9 frame with a PM9 slide. Am I remembering it right?

Instead of an extended mag finger extension you'd have a full grip, plus one extra round, with a short pm slide.

[LorenzoB]

Oh.

jg, I agree with you.
I really think there would have to be a few versions for different purposes.

1) It would be good to have a very low profile mag plate that is covert.
2) And then another with a pinky extension so you have more control without a big grip, but still concealable (helpful for large hands).
3) And yet another with a longer magazine (1 more round) that is even less concealable but more fun at the range.

I was planning to start with option 1 and 3.
I would also like option 3 (and maybe option 1) to blend into the bottom of the gun to form that "palm swell" Tilos mentioned earlier and look as nice as Ol'coot's modification.

[Tilos]

Having free machine time and tooling is a good reason to play...for you, but I no longer have accesss to any:(.
And the reason I was looking into benchtop cnc mills and would go the delron route.

Even when I did, people always asked me to "make stuff" that I would BUY rather than make for myself.
I would shame them by pulling out my wallet and offer money so they could BUY the item they wanted ME to make:boink:.

My limit was the pissed stained toilet seat hinge one guy wanted me to weld:7:.
Don't jepardize your job over a mag base:biggrin1:

Tilos

[TucsonMTB]

My mind is going. It looks like everybody here is trying to extend the grip for an all finger hold. IIRC Kahr made a pistol called The Covert that had a P9 frame with a PM9 slide. Am I remembering it right?

Instead of an extended mag finger extension you'd have a full grip, plus one extra round, with a short pm slide.
Actually, the covert pistols that Kahr produced featured a shorter grip with a longer slide, sort of like a P40 with a PM40 grip. The people who have them like the longer barrel & slide for greater velocity and a longer sight radius. The shorter vertical height of the pistol is intended to aid in concealment.

If you search the forum, you will probably find some older posts by people who have since duplicated Kahr's work now that Kahr has stopped offering the Covert models.

[jg rider]

Actually, the covert pistols that Kahr produced featured a shorter grip with a longer slide, sort of like a P40 with a PM40 grip. The people who have them like the longer barrel & slide for greater velocity and a longer sight radius. The shorter vertical height of the pistol is intended to aid in concealment.

If you search the forum, you will probably find some older posts by people who have since duplicated Kahr's work now that Kahr has stopped offering the Covert models.

Duuuuuh ! Does my description qualify as dyslexic?

[TucsonMTB]

Duuuuuh ! Does my description qualify as dyslexic?
When that happens to me, I prefer to think of it as a powerful intellectual engine spinning the tires as it blasts across the starting line . . .

My wife has a different theory . . . :o

[Tilos]

Covert, pm series, same, sameo grip length:rolleyes:

Not re-inventing anything here, just base plate options...without the hook and gap aka pierce, without the gap aka kahr, without the useless additional length and funny little hook thingy aka CW9, nothing more than that:).

And because we can, it's the American way:D

[LorenzoB]

Having free machine time and tooling is a good reason to play...for you, but I no longer have accesss to any:(.
And the reason I was looking into benchtop cnc mills and would go the delron route.

Even when I did, people always asked me to "make stuff" that I would BUY rather than make for myself.
I would shame them by pulling out my wallet and offer money so they could BUY the item they wanted ME to make:boink:.

My limit was the pissed stained toilet seat hinge one guy wanted me to weld:7:.
Don't jepardize your job over a mag base:biggrin1:

Tilos

That is hilarious! Sometimes I feel the same way. People always ask me to fix their computers, and sometimes I feel like just handing them $100 and telling them to visit the Geek Squad at Best Buy.

[jg rider]

Covert, pm series, same, sameo grip length:rolleyes:
And because we can, it's the American way:D
Ok OK I get it! :boink: You don't have to rub it in. You're being very insensitive to my feeling :hurt: :rolleyes:

[BOBBO268]

if you cut/grind/sand/mill plastic, how do you do so without disoloring or turning it gray? (at least for those of us who don't have expensive tools)

[TucsonMTB]

if you cut/grind/sand/mill plastic, how do you do so without disoloring or turning it gray? (at least for those of us who don't have expensive tools)
I find that sanding with 600 grit wet-or-dry production paper results in a finish that looks pretty much like the original molded finish on Kahr base plates. Back when I had a CW40, I sanded off the extra height (from the bottom) as well as the front lip. For me, it turned out smooth and black, with either 600 or 1000 grit. YMMV

[Tilos]

What TucsonMTB said, and...

You can buff plastic too, low speed though or it'll get hot and melt:eek:.

You can also smooth or "print" any texture on plastic using acetone.
Just practice on something besides your gun:o.

[jg rider]

if you cut/grind/sand/mill plastic, how do you do so without disoloring or turning it gray? (at least for those of us who don't have expensive tools)


I find that sanding with 600 grit wet-or-dry production paper results in a finish that looks pretty much like the original molded finish on Kahr base plates. Back when I had a CW40, I sanded off the extra height (from the bottom) as well as the front lip. For me, it turned out smooth and black, with either 600 or 1000 grit. YMMV


What TucsonMTB said, and...

You can buff plastic too, low speed though or it'll get hot and melt:eek:.

You can also smooth or "print" any texture on plastic using acetone.
Just practice on something besides your gun:o.

Or you can paint an accent stripe, with a contrasting bottom color. I ran out of bases or I would have shown you what rose and hot pink looked like

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/Paintedmagbaseplates011.jpg

[LorenzoB]

I finally finished the design of the first baseplate. I think it looks pretty good on the screen, but real life may be a different story. I am going to order material and some tooling on Monday. I can't wait to have something to show you all!

[JERRY]

im not jesus but i am resurecting the dead here....

i just ordered the plastic P9 mag plate and mag plate spring base. how much sanding are we talking about having to do for clearance?

[MLESa7990]

very little

[JERRY]

i just did my poly base plate with 100 grit....took a few minutes of check and fits.....

noticed my PM9 is the old style where the checkering on the front strap comes all the way down like a cut down P9.

[jg rider]

im not jesus but i am resurecting the dead here....

i just ordered the plastic P9 mag plate and mag plate spring base. how much sanding are we talking about having to do for clearance?

For me, I first removed the bottom lip and toe of the base plates, and then I started to sand down the top. I decided on a .198" total height. This was a compromise for the difference in grip lengths or for mag release locations on both our PM9's.

The removal of the toes and bottom lips haven't effected the strength of the pads. We've dropped the mags on hard surfaces for many years while practicing reloads and haven't broken one yet
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/KakrPM9Mod001.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/KakrPM9Mod002.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/KakrPM9Mod003.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/Kahr%20Pistols/PM9Pistols.jpg