Anyone Hear about this Executive Order Last Friday?

[Tinman507]

Got this from my brother. This is scary stuff.

http://bwcentral.org/2012/03/obama-new-executive-order-would-seize-us-infrastructure-and-citizens-for-national-defense/

[apheod]

Sure did, yeah its bullshit and a blatant violation of our rights but not such a huge power grab as a lot of people think. It's really only a tweak to an existing EO. It now says they can come take your things and enslave you during peacetime. Before it said in time of national emergency... We've been under a declared national emergency for years.

[Bawanna]

It should say they can TRY and take my things. Tinfoil hat in place.

I found it funny the line where it said only after the death of the Lincoln and Truman?, Roosevelt?, I already forgot, the constitution was restored.

Now there's an idea right there.

[Bill K]

Hey, does it give the President the power to cancel the November elections? All hale the Chief... Sieg heils! Sieg heils! Sieg heils! [God help us.]

[chrish]

Yep, saw that. And the equally apalling part of it all is that in a couple of cases where I ran into it, it's being billed as a simply 'revision' or 'update' to what already existed and that it wasn't materially changing. It's not and what already existed was a pile of steamin' poo as well. Push is coming to shove me thinks and a reset will be in order in the next 25 years or so.

[KMA]

Yes, I knew about it already, and it really scares the life out of me. Welcome to the new America.

[TucsonMTB]

Got this from my brother. This is scary stuff.

http://bwcentral.org/2012/03/obama-new-executive-order-would-seize-us-infrastructure-and-citizens-for-national-defense/
That old joke, "I'm from the Federal Government and I'm here to help." is scary enough. http://home.mindspring.com/%7Ejustsomeguy/icon_lol.gif

Fox News, usually pretty quick to sound the alarm, does not express much concern.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/19/obama-signs-executive-order-revising-authority-to-nationalize-resources-for/

[OldLincoln]

Well, I guess I've had my cardio workout for the day! Blood Pressure's a tad high but nothing shooting a hundred rounds won't cure. Might want to modify the target just a tad though. :)

[Tinman507]

Oh hell. I just had a horrible horrible boating accident. Lost all my firearms, ammo, mags and cleaning supplies. I can't believe it. Floating one minute and the next there's water around my ankles. I am lucky to be alive. Couldn't save the guns though. :31:

[Bill K]

Guess my position is that though I respect the office I neither trust nor respect this particular President. I feel our President suffers from a narcissistic personality disorder and I would not be at all surprised at what he might do to expand his presidential powers. Or, I just might be paranoid.

[chrish]

Oh hell. I just had a horrible horrible boating accident. Lost all my firearms, ammo, mags and cleaning supplies. I can't believe it. Floating one minute and the next there's water around my ankles. I am lucky to be alive. Couldn't save the guns though. :31:

I sold all of mine at the last gun show. There was a guy there that presented me with a photo ID and his valid CCW. I could probably pick him out of a line up and would be glad to come in once you round up some options. I think his last name was 'Smith' or 'Jones' to the best of my recollection.

[chrish]

Guess my position is that though I respect the office I neither trust nor respect this particular President. I feel our President suffers from a narcissistic personality disorder and I would not be at all surprised at what he might do to expand his presidential powers. Or, I just might be paranoid.

I no longer respect the office. The day that the office resets itself back to what's in the Constitution, I'll consider it.

[JFootin]

Oh hell. I just had a horrible horrible boating accident. Lost all my firearms, ammo, mags and cleaning supplies. I can't believe it. Floating one minute and the next there's water around my ankles. I am lucky to be alive. Couldn't save the guns though. :31:

How deep was the water? Wasn't there a salvage attempt?

[Bawanna]

I was there with Tinman, it was nothing short of harrowing. I'd say that water had to be at least 7" deep. We dove and dove while trying to save ourselves but they were just all gone. I'm thankful that we both had a second chance at life, I'm reborn and shall cling to my religion instead of guns.

A real eye opener it twas.

[Tinman507]

There I was trolling over the Marianas Trench and poof! it began to sink.
Couple of miles down I guess. Sad.

[Bawanna]

There I was trolling over the Marianas Trench and poof! it began to sink.
Couple of miles down I guess. Sad.

OH yeah, that's right, I 'm still a little shaky in the memory of it all. Traumatizing it was indeed. Way over my head, couple miles sounds about right.

[JFootin]

There I was trolling over the Marianas Trench and poof! it began to sink.
Couple of miles down I guess. Sad.


OH yeah, that's right, I 'm still a little shaky in the memory of it all. Traumatizing it was indeed. Way over my head, couple miles sounds about right.

This whole story is starting to sound fishy to me! :mad:

[melissa5]

I wouldn't put it past the Muslim to refuse to leave the WH when it comes times. Also, I've recently come to the decision that guns were not compatible with my religion, so I sold them all. :banplease:

[Bawanna]

I wouldn't put it past the Muslim to refuse to leave the WH when it comes times. Also, I've recently come to the decision that guns were not compatible with my religion, so I sold them all. :banplease:

I figure we need to build a new WH anyhow. This one is desecrated, I'm sure the next Pres would like a new one anyhow.

[melissa5]

I figure we need to build a new WH anyhow. This one is desecrated, I'm sure the next Pres would like a new one anyhow.

I'm sure our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. :mad:

[ptoemmes]

OH yeah, that's right, I 'm still a little shaky in the memory of it all. Traumatizing it was indeed. Way over my head, couple miles sounds about right.

Not a problem. Will get Jim - he prefers to be called James - right on it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57400942/james-camerons-deep-sea-dive-to-begin-say-reports/

[Tinman507]

Oh Thank you!!! Maybe I'll be able to play the piano again too!

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[apheod]

i love how everyone here is blaming all of this on obama, as if he wrote this up. this was placed on his desk by the powers that be and he was shown where to sign. he is a puppet, a figurehead, the same as bush, the same as clinton.

before someone says it and calls me a liberal, i'm not defending obama. i'm ridiculing the idea that our country is heading down the tubes solely because of him. this is all by design, part of a sinister master plan.

i'm surprised that link didn't quote sections 310, the "we can take your ****" clause, and section 502, the "we can enslave you" clause. here's the link to the entire EO.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness


Sec. 310. Critical Items. The head of each agency engaged in procurement for the national defense is delegated the authority of the President under section 107(b)(1) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2077(b)(1), to take appropriate action to ensure that critical components, critical technology items, essential materials, and industrial resources are available from reliable sources when needed to meet defense requirements during peacetime, graduated mobilization, and national emergency. Appropriate action may include restricting contract solicitations to reliable sources, restricting contract solicitations to domestic sources (pursuant to statutory authority), stockpiling critical components, and developing substitutes for critical components or critical technology items.
Sec. 502. Consultants. The head of each agency otherwise delegated functions under this order is delegated the authority of the President under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), (c), to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations. The authority delegated by this section may not be redelegated.

[Thunder71]

Ahh, there's the supporter - I knew there was one here. :)

[Tinman507]

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[melissa5]

All I'm saying is that a man of integrity and honor wouldn't have signed it....men like our founding fathers.

[apheod]

Ahh, there's the supporter - I knew there was one here. :)

yeah, i'm a huge fan of obama because im not silly enough to believe the buck stops with him :rolleyes:

i didnt say he was a man of honor and integrity, all i said was that this is not obama's master plan, he's more than a pawn, maybe a rook? certainly not the king though.

[apheod]

honestly... everytime i post on politics on this forum, i get called a liberal and/or an obama supporter. it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.

to think that one is either a die hard right winger or loves obama is pretty close minded to say the least.

it should be obvious from ANY of my political posts, let alone my avatar (which is a t-shirt i have and proudly wear) that i believe 9 out of 10 politicians are completely corrupt and have no interest at all in representing the common people, obama included.

[Bawanna]

Let us not get personal ladies and gents. Let us have open minds and meaningful discussion.
We seem to have two major areas of discussion of late, Kahr bashing and politics, I'm not the least bit fond of either myself.

Not closing but watching. I spot welded the safety cover on the close thread button but I have my hammer and cold chisel at work as we speak.

[apheod]

trying to be civil but being called an obama supporter is like calling me a hitler supporter or something... c'mon. i've shrugged it off in most threads, but it's getting to be pretty routine, and i'm getting sick of it.

it should be obvious to anyone who reads my posts that i think very little of the man. however, i also think people need to stop with always trying to pin all of our country's problems squarely on his shoulders, as though things were just fine before he took office, and things will be just rosy once he's out of office. this country was already well on the path, and will remain on the path no matter who wins the next election. no, that was not at ALL a defense of obama. it's simply my opinion that this is FAR bigger than the president, whoever it may be.

[Thunder71]

Did you get it all out now? Someone needs a hug.

I still think you should be required to pass a test to become president, like name all 57 states.

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[Mike_B]

trying to be civil but being called an obama supporter is like calling me a hitler supporter or something... c'mon. i've shrugged it off in most threads, but it's getting to be pretty routine, and i'm getting sick of it.

it should be obvious to anyone who reads my posts that i think very little of the man. however, i also think people need to stop with always trying to pin all of our country's problems squarely on his shoulders, as though things were just fine before he took office, and things will be just rosy once he's out of office. this country was already well on the path, and will remain on the path no matter who wins the next election. no, that was not at ALL a defense of obama. it's simply my opinion that this is FAR bigger than the president, whoever it may be.

I stand with you, friend..... I'm far from being a conspiracy theorist- c'mon now, we really did go to the moon, get over it. But Big Money, Big Power rules this country, and most of this world. Anyone who thinks differently is only fooling themselves....

[muggsy]

That's it. I'm not waiting for Bawanna. Insulting, "The One" like that. I'm closing this thread and putting a lock on it. Where the hell is my key?

( I'm not really a moderator, I just play one on this MB.) :)

[Thunder71]

Pssst... over here.

http://images.colourbox.com/thumb_COLOURBOX2261406.jpg

[apheod]

ok, updated the avatar.

better?

[Thunder71]

You're all about change.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Truce? :D

[apheod]

truce. ive had a pretty crappy week at work, been a bit on edge lately.

[Thunder71]

Yep, me too... and it's showing, unfortunately. :smash:

Steak is done, let's eat! :cool:

[chrish]

Darn, didn't get in heavily on this one :)

[MikeyKahr]

So that's what self-moderating looks like.

[KMA]

I figure we need to build a new WH anyhow. This one is desecrated, I'm sure the next Pres would like a new one anyhow.

Do not hope too much yet, there is a big chance that the next president will be the same old one again. Did I make your day Bawanna?:D Good-bye everybody, nice to meet you all, I am banned forever now :o



I'm sure our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. :mad:

Just rolling? I am sure that they already have jumped out of their graves and run away.

[JFootin]

I figure we need to build a new WH anyhow. This one is desecrated, I'm sure the next Pres would like a new one anyhow.

Might have to rename it at any rate. If Santorum wins, they'll call it the Sanctum Sanctorum (Latin for Holy of Holies, but a play on his name)! :D