What will you do when they outlaw guns?

[TheTman]

I saw The Hunger Games yesterday, about a post revolutionary America, where the elite live in a beautiful city and want for nothing, while the rest of the people are confined to districts, such a mining districts, farming districts, etc. and barely eke out a living, and it has got me thinking about what would happen when they outlaw guns. I wouldn't leave comments if you are planning on not turning them in them as IP addresses can be traced.

[tv_racin_fan]

Oh I dunno, I might just build more...

[Bawanna]

Since that dreadful flood and the loss of my treasured firearms collection I found myself. I've discovered that I'm more into love, peace an harmony. I now live for group hugs rather than reloading, meaningful conversation rather than dangerously loud noises.
Since I've discovered my true self I no longer miss those evil hunks of metal that use to have sole control over my very life and happiness.

With plenty of meaningful group hugs and bodacious quantities of scotch I hardly notice they are gone.

[dkmatthews]

Sundown at Coffin Rock, by Raymond K. Paden (http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/sundown.html)

[tilefish]

Since that dreadful flood and the loss of my treasured firearms collection I found myself. I've discovered that I'm more into love, peace an harmony. I now live for group hugs rather than reloading, meaningful conversation rather than dangerously loud noises.
Since I've discovered my true self I no longer miss those evil hunks of metal that use to have sole control over my very life and happiness.

With plenty of meaningful group hugs and bodacious quantities of scotch I hardly notice they are gone.

I hear ya. I went boating last weekend and we capsized. While all of my guns were lost, nobody was hurt. Oh well, I guess I will have more time for gardening now.

[Armybrat]

What guns? :confused:

[DKD]

I will become a hippy, go and hug a tree and sign *** ba ya. :D

[Ken_K]

I think we would end up becoming The Republic of Texas down here. No one I know would just give them up without a fight.

[Longitude Zero]

Movie vs Reality.

[TheTman]

True, it was a movie, but with with certain things happening in the governement, can't you see the day is coming, ever so slowly for now, but one Supreme Court Justice could change all that.

[Longitude Zero]

Not really. It will take a whole lot more than one seat on the SCOTUS to get us into that quagmire, a lot more. That would be one step of millions it would take. IMHO.

[jlottmc]

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who had a terrible tragedy befall them. Who knew that guns couldn't swim?

[Tinman507]

One minute I am "flying" on the bow and the next I am swimming for my life.
All my treasured possessions were gone. 2 miles deep. So sad.

http://www.devata.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/titanic-bow-scene.jpg

[Tilos]

I live in the high desert and except for flash floods I'm pretty safe from Bawanna's misfortune:yo:.
I have had a boating accident though, on the Snake River, during spring run off and every gun I owned was lost:(.

Actually I have thought about this (outlawed guns) and I now live where we have many areas remote enough where no one would hear a gun shot.
Even with that, I don't see shooting to be fun or even a hobby, maybe just a means of survival, in that world.

It'll probably go the way of smoking, incrementally, tax, tax, tax, not here, not there, not at work, not near children, not in the car, not at home, even more tax, to an area remote enough no one will see/smell.
just sayin'

[MLESa7990]

Sounds to me like you folks need to take some boating safety course.

[Bawanna]

In spite of the tragic accident I guess I still have my religion to cling too.

[AIRret]

What will I do when they outlaw guns??? I guess I'll spend more time playing my 5 string banjo. The way I play it's more dangerous than a gun.

[RedRyder]

Sundown at Coffin Rock, by Raymond K. Paden (http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/sundown.html)

Ooh. Chilling story. Ya know there could be some real truth in this one. I won't be around to see it but my son just bought a house in NJ and I looked up their gun laws. Wanted to puke. They even have a law preventing use of hollow points outside your home or a range. What a crock. He's hoping to eventually move out west but for now, it's put up with ridiculous laws.:confused:

[chrish]

I can't believe after 2 pages that someone hasn't asked why 'build more pointy sticks' wasn't one of the survey choices. shameful you guys, just shameful!

[pitbull1022]

I would turn in my guns, become a total comformist, kiss the elite ass and stand in line for my government assistance money. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

[jg rider]

Nobody's said :
"They will have to pry them out of my cold dead hands"

We're a mature bunch

[TheTman]

I just think at somepoint the bill of rights is going to become irrevelant as we slide into Socialism, or Martial Law is declared. A totally stuipid idea. Look at all the guns we sent to England in WWII so they could have a home guard.
That Sundown at Shadow Rock was a very good read, and made me think some more.
There are just too many anti gunners out there, and more all the time. Everytime we have a shooting like the one that's been so popular on the board for awhile gets people to thinking we'd be better off without guns. I doubt I'll see the day it happens, but I fear my son will see the day. They will continue as they have been, a little chunk here, a little compromise there, and before you know it they will outlaw them all. One vote on the SCOTUS decided that the 2nd admendment was an individual right, I doubt if we will always have the majority, and too many poeple think the Constitution is a living and breathing document that needs updating with the times.

[les strat]

In spite of the tragic accident I guess I still have my religion to cling too.

They'll be trying to take that from us too.

[chipD]

I will start killing trees slowly with cigarettes.

[JFootin]

They'll be trying to take that from us too.

Potus has already been doing that.

[Chief Joseph]

Sounds to me like you folks need to take some boating safety course.

Actually, it sounds like it's a good time for boat control. Somebody alert holder.

[tv_racin_fan]

All I know is the states have been passing bills and having them signed into law which are giving back the 2nd amendment little by little.

Wasn't that long ago that most states were may issue and only one state was a constitutional carry state. Now nearly all the states are shall issue three are considered constitutional carry with more states having constitutional carry bills going thru their legislature. Currently only one state has no provision for carry. Most of this has come about since my son was born in 1987 which is somewhat ironic since 1986 saw an update to the NFA whereby only those full auto firearms built and registered pre some date in 1986 are legal for "normal" citizens to own.

I need to check what happened in my state this session as there was a bill going around to allow silencers for hunting.

[les strat]

All I know is the states have been passing bills and having them signed into law which are giving back the 2nd amendment little by little.

Wasn't that long ago that most states were may issue and only one state was a constitutional carry state. Now nearly all the states are shall issue three are considered constitutional carry with more states having constitutional carry bills going thru their legislature. Currently only one state has no provision for carry. Most of this has come about since my son was born in 1987 which is somewhat ironic since 1986 saw an update to the NFA whereby only those full auto firearms built and registered pre some date in 1986 are legal for "normal" citizens to own.

I need to check what happened in my state this session as there was a bill going around to allow silencers for hunting.

This is true. It seems like the more the feds push anit-gun, the more the states have pushed back with loosening ownership/carry rights. It's hard for the feds to argue when statistics show gun sales are at an all-time high, and violence is dropping yearly.

Yesterday, Glenn Beck started off his show talking about shootings at colleges, ranting about how their is a direct correlation between college education and violence... something has to be done. College students or graduates turn into killers (Dahmer, Zimmerman, this guy at Christian college, etc). Maybe colleges need to be closed down. Meanwhile, emails started pouring in saying, "Glenn, do you know how many millions of college educated people there are for every one that goes off the edge?" He said, "EXACTLY!" and bridged straight into there being MILLIONS of gun owners for every one that commits a violent crime, yet libs want to ban guns for everyone because the misuse of one or a few loons.

Perfect setup.

[Longitude Zero]

Is the sky falling yet??? Nope...Back to normal life.

[SpecK]

This is true. It seems like the more the feds push anit-gun, the more the states have pushed back with loosening ownership/carry rights. It's hard for the feds to argue when statistics show gun sales are at an all-time high, and violence is dropping yearly.

Yesterday, Glenn Beck started off his show talking about shootings at colleges, ranting about how their is a direct correlation between college education and violence... something has to be done. College students or graduates turn into killers (Dahmer, Zimmerman, this guy at Christian college, etc). Maybe colleges need to be closed down. Meanwhile, emails started pouring in saying, "Glenn, do you know how many millions of college educated people there are for every one that goes off the edge?" He said, "EXACTLY!" and bridged straight into there being MILLIONS of gun owners for every one that commits a violent crime, yet libs want to ban guns for everyone because the misuse of one or a few loons.

Perfect setup.

Pretty good analogy. And dead on.

In other news, the same day firearms were outlawed, there was a 10,000% increase in watercraft collisions. Luckily, no persons were injured.

[Ken_K]

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3810/gunyoucanhaveitnow.jpg

[HDoc]

OK, I'm here to turn in my gums. What's that sonny, guns?... nope don't have any of those.

[Scoundrel]

All I know is the states have been passing bills and having them signed into law which are giving back the 2nd amendment little by little.

Wasn't that long ago that most states were may issue and only one state was a constitutional carry state. Now nearly all the states are shall issue three are considered constitutional carry with more states having constitutional carry bills going thru their legislature. Currently only one state has no provision for carry. Most of this has come about since my son was born in 1987 which is somewhat ironic since 1986 saw an update to the NFA whereby only those full auto firearms built and registered pre some date in 1986 are legal for "normal" citizens to own.

I need to check what happened in my state this session as there was a bill going around to allow silencers for hunting.

Thank you for this. I didn't want to be the one to say it and possibly get stomped on.

Effective July 22, 2011, Washington State residents can now USE a silencer (before that it was legal to OWN one, and even to have it mounted on a gun, but not to actually USE it). See HB 1016 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1016).

I bought an AR-15 recently, and it has several features on it that would have made it illegal a decade ago.

Anyway, back to what to do with your guns if they're banned. Here's a thought:
http://gizmodo.com/5897996/how-to-make-a-book-into-an-incognito-stash-box

[Chief Joseph]

This is true. It seems like the more the feds push anit-gun, the more the states have pushed back with loosening ownership/carry rights. It's hard for the feds to argue when statistics show gun sales are at an all-time high, and violence is dropping yearly.

Yesterday, Glenn Beck started off his show talking about shootings at colleges, ranting about how their is a direct correlation between college education and violence... something has to be done. College students or graduates turn into killers (Dahmer, Zimmerman, this guy at Christian college, etc). Maybe colleges need to be closed down. Meanwhile, emails started pouring in saying, "Glenn, do you know how many millions of college educated people there are for every one that goes off the edge?" He said, "EXACTLY!" and bridged straight into there being MILLIONS of gun owners for every one that commits a violent crime, yet libs want to ban guns for everyone because the misuse of one or a few loons.

Perfect setup.

My favorite setup of his was one of his commercials for the Overton Window. Using a very strange poem. Then he read all the lefty loons commenting on what terrible writing it was and how it made no sense. He let it go on for a while before revealing it was from Rudyard Kipling. too funny, the liberal "educated elites" were just too stupid. I doubt they even get it today.

[muggsy]

Like Chuck said, "They'll have to pry them from my cold dead fingers."

[Popeye]

I wasn't affraid to fight for the country I love in 1966. So three words is all I have to say. .....BRING IT ON.....

[DKD]

To quote the then "TEXAS" revoltion of 1836 against the mexicans........
"COME AND TAKE IT" !!!!

[QuercusMax]

"What will you do if you have to turn in your guns?"

We should keep in mind that such a thing would never come upon us suddenly one day. High-impact changes like that are never abrupt.

Without a doubt, if the day ever came, it would have been at the end of a series of many smaller steps. Rather like the proverbial frog sitting in the water pot that slowly gets hotter and hotter, until it's too late. A additional permit here, a new minor restriction there, sunsetting of a previously-legal thing, new limitations on calibers, etc - that is the deadly path.

Why?

Because of the way human nature works.

People who might fight tooth and nail against a big change often let the small changes happen because no one of them is big enough to justify a big fight, but when added up, the end result is still achieved. This is the "slippery slope." Sometimes, though, it can be reversed - as we have witnessed in the end of the Clinton-era bans on high-cap magazines, and by the increasing number of states allowing citizens to carry, to name two.

Moral: In the real world, it's the little things that you really need to be watching out for.

[JFootin]

True, but with the homeland security measures put into law in recent years, a national emergency is all it will take. The POTUS will declare marial law and the order will go out. They will pull out the database that by law isn't supposed to exist at ATF and start entering homes by force. The government has plans in place to deal with resistors, even huge numbers of them. They have the human cattle cars. They have the detention camps. And the thing about it is that the needed "national emergency" will happen when and how they want it to. It won't be a surprise at all to them.

[AIRret]

I agree with JFootin.
Look what happened during Katrina!! Most of those folks still haven't gotten their guns back. Also, just a few weeks ago Obama changed the rules so that he can declare marshall law whenever he wants!!!!!
Today's world makes me nervous, and I guess that is good.

[Bawanna]

I wonder if them stainless steel bowls Wyn got to protect his safe dial from EMP's would be as effective as my tin foil hat?

When the come they most likely won't need cattle cars or detention camps as most will be dead.

Course this doesn't apply to me since that horrible boating accident.

[Tinman507]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Lwyp--6UDlE/S84QYrNbYRI/AAAAAAAACtA/bIVq4U7S9UI/s1600/633673729262531831-TinfoilHat.jpg

[JohnR]

Yeah, I'm gonna tell the government, via an internet forum, what I'll do with contraband. :cool:

[QuercusMax]

True, but with the homeland security measures put into law in recent years, a national emergency is all it will take. The POTUS will declare marial law and the order will go out. They will pull out the database that by law isn't supposed to exist at ATF and start entering homes by force. The government has plans in place to deal with resistors, even huge numbers of them. They have the human cattle cars. They have the detention camps. And the thing about it is that the needed "national emergency" will happen when and how they want it to. It won't be a surprise at all to them.

I don't trust the Feds with anything --- and that includes their ability to carry out any operation effectively and efficiently. Thus I'm not terribly worried about the scenario you described, unless they have been sandbagging us for 236 years just so they can surprise us in this particular case. ;)

[jeepster09]

Guns.....guns....what guns? Guns are evil....:40:

[kramm]

I've heard on the news and read news stories about how guns do so much harm and cause so much grief. I had to sell all mine to private buyers because I didn't want them to take over my mind and cause me to go on a shooting rampage.:D

[les strat]

I gave away all my guns and am moving to Wall Street to do some occupying. SO much more contructive.