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BroncoAZ
04-19-2012, 01:23 AM
I'm on a search for a nice semi auto 9mm for the wife to shoot at the range. She has very small hands/short fingers and is difficult to buy for. About the only 9mm I've found that fits her hands reasonably well is the Kahr, specifically the CW9 I have, she can actually reach the trigger with her hand positioned properly on the gun. I'm thinking one of the steel frame Kahr's is the ticket for her, probably the longer T9 as the extra weight will make it a nicer shooter. My question is on the grip size: is the grip on the T9 (or K9) the same width and length of pull as the CW9? If the length from the back to the trigger is longer that might be a dealbreaker.

Thanks!

ripley16
04-19-2012, 05:12 AM
As carefully as I could, I measured the reach from mid trigger to the back strap. The polymer pistol measured 61.75mm and the metal Kahr measured 63.5mm. The wood grip "feels" a little more full than the polymer grip, but the overall difference in trigger reach is nil IMHO. If you want the exact same reach then perhaps the TP9 would also be an option. Both 4" barreled pistols shoot the same as far as I'm concerrned.

jocko
04-19-2012, 06:55 AM
If ur wife doesn't want that T9.ol jocko willMarry u!!! Just sayin

Bawanna
04-19-2012, 10:04 AM
The one and only T9 that I actually held in my hand (for several minutes, they had to pry it out to put back on the table) looked to me like the wood grips could be thinned down considerably. I've discovered that thin even on a 1911 platform makes a huge difference in the feel, especially for a small handed person.

I agree that the T9 would be a great range gun for your wife. Are you using that as a ruse so you can have it yourself. I do that myself frequently.

I'll back ya 100% if that's the case. And if I can assist in some grip reduction I'm there for you too. I'd probably suggest ordering some smooth grips from the Kahrshop and then slim them down and checker however pleases her/you.

jeepster09
04-19-2012, 10:23 AM
Ahhh I miss read your Title Caption......I was ready to pack up the wife and ship her to ya for a nice T9.:w00t:

dkmatthews
04-19-2012, 10:26 AM
And if I can assist in some grip reduction I'm there for you too. I'd probably suggest ordering some smooth grips from the Kahrshop and then slim them down and checker however pleases her/you.

Good advice on the grips, Bawanna!

dkmatthews
04-19-2012, 10:27 AM
ahhh i miss read your title caption......i was ready to pack up the wife and ship her to ya for a nice t9.:w00t:

+1 jeepster09!

Tinman507
04-19-2012, 11:30 AM
Ahhh I miss read your Title Caption......I was ready to pack up the wife and ship her to ya for a nice T9.:w00t:
I miss read it as well. Had to cut the box open and let her out when I realized what it really said.

http://www.changechampion.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Woman_In_Box_main1.jpg

Bawanna
04-19-2012, 11:32 AM
Nice shoes, size 8 1/2 by any chance, those would look awesome with my fishnet....aw wrong forum.

Tinman507
04-19-2012, 11:34 AM
I had you figured more as a strappy kinda guy. Pumps are so formal.

Bawanna
04-19-2012, 11:36 AM
Somebody must have hacked my account, I didn't write that....................

I could barely visualize pumps for special occasions......maybe........

BroncoAZ
04-19-2012, 03:31 PM
As carefully as I could, I measured the reach from mid trigger to the back strap. The polymer pistol measured 61.75mm and the metal Kahr measured 63.5mm. The wood grip "feels" a little more full than the polymer grip, but the overall difference in trigger reach is nil IMHO. If you want the exact same reach then perhaps the TP9 would also be an option. Both 4" barreled pistols shoot the same as far as I'm concerrned.

Thanks for the measurements! I figured the wood would feel puller, but could probably be thinned if necessary. I considered the TP9, but I'd like to get her into an all steel gun as it will have less felt recoil. Her CCW piece is a Ruger LCR .357, but it isn't necessarily fun to shoot.


The one and only T9 that I actually held in my hand (for several minutes, they had to pry it out to put back on the table) looked to me like the wood grips could be thinned down considerably. I've discovered that thin even on a 1911 platform makes a huge difference in the feel, especially for a small handed person.

I agree that the T9 would be a great range gun for your wife. Are you using that as a ruse so you can have it yourself. I do that myself frequently.

I'll back ya 100% if that's the case. And if I can assist in some grip reduction I'm there for you too. I'd probably suggest ordering some smooth grips from the Kahrshop and then slim them down and checker however pleases her/you.

I've used the ruse to justify a handful of purchases over the years (my favorite was the Yugo SKS I purchased for myself on Valentines day a few years ago, I was 2 hours late for dinner when I "gave" it to her :D ), but in this case it really is something for her. I rented her a Springfield EMP 9mm last fall. I'm not a fan of 1911's, but it did fit her hand. Unfortunately (or fortunately) she didn't shoot it very well because she has no experience with a single action pistol. I like the idea of a T9 with slimmed grips for her.

jeepster09
04-19-2012, 05:00 PM
Back in 1981 I got MY WIFE a really nice Jeep CJ7, I traded her Chevy Rally Nova in for her so she would be safer in the winter.

BroncoAZ
04-19-2012, 11:16 PM
I stopped in at a shop today and checked out a K9 and a CW9 together. Looking at the two in the hand I could see that the rubber grips were indeed a bit fuller than the polymer frame. I don't know that the difference would be enough to make it so the grip would be too large for her. I'm thinking I'll put a couple of pieces of bike tube on the CW9 and see how it fits her hand.

JFootin
04-20-2012, 06:59 AM
A lot nicer looking and feeling, get the Qwik-Grip (http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=84).

BroncoAZ
04-20-2012, 07:56 PM
A lot nicer looking and feeling, get the Qwik-Grip (http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=84).

I use the hogue handall grips on my Glocks and Kahrs. The bike tube on the CW9 would just be to approximate a larger grip of a T9 for the wife to try.

JFootin
04-20-2012, 09:41 PM
I use the hogue handall grips on my Glocks and Kahrs. The bike tube on the CW9 would just be to approximate a larger grip of a T9 for the wife to try.

Well, that's what the Qwik-Grip does. It doesn't have any palm swells or finger grooves, so it just makes the grip a little bit thicker—just right. Plus, it will cushion recoil better and look 100 times better than an old stinky inner tube. JMO.

BroncoAZ
04-21-2012, 10:32 PM
I took the wife over to check out a K9 today. The gun the store had was in rough shape (someone's CCW piece: dings and scratches on slide, rubber grip worn on one side, rust in the grip screws), but for my purposes it was fine. The little larger grip of the K9 seems to fit her hands fine. We considered the pros and cons of buying and refinishing the gun the store had (bead blast frame and slide, new grips, add night sights) and decided to just order a new T9 with the Novak sights instead. Online retailer showed one in stock, so it is ordered and my FFL is expecting it. I ran into the instructor I know at the range. He asked what I was having transferred in and was pleased when I said T9.

Barth
04-27-2012, 02:35 PM
I took the wife over to check out a K9 today. The gun the store had was in rough shape (someone's CCW piece: dings and scratches on slide, rubber grip worn on one side, rust in the grip screws), but for my purposes it was fine. The little larger grip of the K9 seems to fit her hands fine. We considered the pros and cons of buying and refinishing the gun the store had (bead blast frame and slide, new grips, add night sights) and decided to just order a new T9 with the Novak sights instead. Online retailer showed one in stock, so it is ordered and my FFL is expecting it. I ran into the instructor I know at the range. He asked what I was having transferred in and was pleased when I said T9.

I came really close to buying a T40 with Novak sights.
Went with the MK40 Elite with NS instead so I could pocket carry.
Now that I have it, I rarely pocket carry due to the weight.
Still wonder what that the T40 would have been like to own.
But I do love my micro MK40 Elite, really I do.

BroncoAZ
04-27-2012, 05:18 PM
I just got the call, the wife's T9 has arrived from Buds and is ready for transfer. Soon I will have it (insert evil laugh here).

jocko
04-27-2012, 05:32 PM
someone is sure gonna love that T9, it is starting to grow in polularitey on this fourm and I credit this forum alot for the sudden popularity and excellentreports of the T series kahrs. Ayear ago we hardly heard anyone talk about them, let alone onw one etc. I have yet to see one myself in a T ot TP. We have a smallgun show comng up next weekenbd and I will be looking for one to hold and feel, but owning a K9, I probably willd o no more than hold and feel. Just sayin.

BroncoAZ
04-28-2012, 09:06 PM
Started a new thread with range report here:

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=12758