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JBowl1
05-08-2012, 11:47 PM
OK fellas. Your experience and opinion. A Chiappa or a Sig or an ATI .22 1911. The lower the cost the better, but I want a quality piece. What do you suggest? Oh, and I want to put a fake suppressor on it. Will that affect accuracy? Thanks. --JB

CJB
05-09-2012, 05:27 AM
If you want better quality - go with a Tactical Solutions .22 conversion for your 1911 lower. Mine has not skipped a beat - but - you may have to use a weaker mainspring if you're shooting standard loads. HiVel and HyperVel loads should be ok on regular mainspring.

jg rider
05-09-2012, 08:07 AM
Have you seen this one by Marvel Precision? It's not cheap but it's supper accurate. They claim under an inch group at 50 yds. I compete with this one in Steel Challenge competition, so you know it has to be malfunction free.

http://www.marvelprecision.com/

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/jgriders/1911%20Pistols/Marvel%20Precision/2MarvelPrecision1.jpg

flieger67
05-21-2012, 02:22 PM
I have about year's worth of experience with a GSG 1911 - the model without the fake can. A friend of mine also has the same pistol as I do. The GSG has been great and I've been able to put VZ Grips on mine along with a Wilson Combat ambi safety with only minor (expected) fitting on the safety. The GSG also breaks down pretty easily though not quite as easily as a true 1911 for routine cleaning.

The Sig .22 1911 is the GSG pistol with "Sig Sauer" painted on the side... and a little extra up charge on the price.

The Chiappa has appeared to be "Cheap-a-lotta" whenever I've seen one. In fact, my LGS had a lot of issues with Chiappa's 1911 when it first came out and have since dropped carrying them since the GSG model came onto the market. I know that they've sold a lot of the GSG's.

I haven't tried any of the conversion kits like the Marvel and such, so I can't comment on them. I did briefly consider a conversion kit but wanted a dedicated pistol for a .22 1911. And if you look around, you can probably find the GSG for less than the cost of some of the conversion kits.

yqtszhj
05-21-2012, 06:52 PM
I shot a guy's Sig at the range and it was nice. Since flieger says a Sig is a GSG I would think that would be a good one.

SkeletonSlinky
05-21-2012, 09:41 PM
I've got a Sig on order...the only real difference between the ATI GSG and the Sig is that the Sig comes with a lifetime warranty and the ATI is 2 year.

JFootin
05-22-2012, 08:08 AM
I've got a Sig on order...the only real difference between the ATI GSG and the Sig is that the Sig comes with a lifetime warranty and the ATI is 2 year.

Big difference! Not so much for Jocko 'cause he's older than dirt. :boink:

flieger67
05-22-2012, 05:26 PM
I've got a Sig on order...the only real difference between the ATI GSG and the Sig is that the Sig comes with a lifetime warranty and the ATI is 2 year.

That's interesting that Sig is warranting a pistol that they don't build for a lifetime term. The Sig Mosquito only gets a 1-year warranty period.

I hope that you enjoy your new .22. The GSG is a pretty nice pistol for the money.

kahrnut1
05-22-2012, 06:25 PM
i've got ati and it has been flawless so far. probally 250 rounds so far. trigger gets a lot smoother after a few rounds.

Kahrslinger
05-22-2012, 09:20 PM
I have the Sig 1911 with close to 1000 rounds through it in about a month of having it. At first it was real picky on what ammo it preferred, as I shoot it more and try different HV rounds it seems to be ironing out any issues it had.. When new I had more then a handful of stovepipes and feeding issues.. ( may be due to the shooter and not the pistol ) Still have a few here and there, but overall I am happy with it. Actually I haven't shot my CW45 or my Glock 19 since I have bought it. Which ever you decide you should enjoy it, cheap and fun to shoot..

DKD
05-23-2012, 08:10 AM
I use a "Kimber" 22 cal conversion upper. It works on most 1911 lowers as long as you have a full size lower. Works on both 4" and 5" model 45 ACP frames. It utilizes a full 5" barrel with adjustable target sites and shoots very well, however you will need to use high velocity 22 LR ammo. Mine likes CCI Minnie Mags, and or Remington Yellow Jackets otherwise you won't have enough recoil energy to work the slide.

JFootin
05-23-2012, 10:41 AM
This gun interests me: the Taurus 845 with 22lr conversion kit (http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=795&category=Pistol&breadcrumbseries=&search=845). It is a really nice 45 with good ergos, comes with two 12 round mags and the 22 conversion kit (slide, barrel, recoil spring and mag). Lifetime warranty. And it can be purchased for a little over $400.

http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/84522SS_01.jpg

SkeletonSlinky
05-23-2012, 11:01 AM
flieger67...I wondered about the lifetime warranty on the Sig too since the Mosquito is 1 year...I called their customer service and they confirmed the warranty and it's also in their Owner's manual.

SkeletonSlinky
05-23-2012, 11:04 AM
jFootin...I looked into that Taurus (actually the PT 809 conversion) and everything I found was that it never really happened (looked like Taurus discontinued the conversion kit?). I also don't see it in their 2012 catalog...sorry

QuercusMax
05-23-2012, 07:28 PM
I have wanted a .22 in a 1911 for quite a while now, but haven't found one that seems right. If you want a nice .22 pistol, I'd suggest a BuckMark. I like mine a lot.

Some people like the Ruger 22/45 because it is "like" a 1911. I don't have one, but they are hard to take down and reassemble.

The Browning 1911-22 is very attractive, but hard to find at the moment, and is not full size. I believe Greg has one and perhaps can comment.

Kimber has some really nice ones, but they are $$$$. And they, like some others, don't lock open after the last round has been fired, which I don't care for.

I recommend a BuckMark, even if not a 1911.

JFootin
05-23-2012, 07:51 PM
jFootin...I looked into that Taurus (actually the PT 809 conversion) and everything I found was that it never really happened (looked like Taurus discontinued the conversion kit?). I also don't see it in their 2012 catalog...sorry

It used to be sold seperately, but no more. And you're right, the 9 and 40 versions have been discontinued. But the Model 84522 is still shown as available on their website.

flieger67
05-28-2012, 07:39 PM
flieger67...I wondered about the lifetime warranty on the Sig too since the Mosquito is 1 year...I called their customer service and they confirmed the warranty and it's also in their Owner's manual.

Good to know and thanks for posting, SkeletonSlinky.

Interesting that Sig will give a lifetime warranty to the GSG/Sig 1911 .22 but not the Mosquito. That must say something about Sig's view of the Mosquito.

MW surveyor
05-29-2012, 04:02 AM
FWIW - I have an Advantage Arms Target model conversion kit for my 1911 and it works flawlessly. Like to have the same gun and same trigger action for both 45 and the 22.

Held a Sig and Colt 1911 22 on Friday and of the two, I liked the Colt better. But that's just me. Have read some good things about the GSG. Did fire a Chiapa and the trigger was horrendous.

cohoskip
05-29-2012, 11:16 AM
I don't like the fixed barrel on the Chiappa. My GSG is flawless...

MW surveyor
05-29-2012, 03:41 PM
I don't like the fixed barrel on the Chiappa

Why not?

cohoskip
05-30-2012, 12:36 PM
I prefer the removable barrel as on the original 1911. Just something I have been used to over the years. My first encounter with a 1911 was in the USMC in 1945.
I feel that a 1911 clone should be as close to the original as possible...

Just my .02 worth... :behindsofa:

MW surveyor
05-31-2012, 04:34 PM
cohoskip, no problem with what you are used to but unless the tilting barrel locks up the same way every time, a fixed barrel is regarded to be more accurate.