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jg rider
05-10-2012, 09:28 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/03/florida-governor-rejects-gun-ban-requested-by-tampa-mayor-during-republican-national-convention/

Yogi 117
05-10-2012, 11:22 AM
Bravo for Gov. Scott...he made the right decision IMHO! :)

muggsy
05-10-2012, 01:32 PM
+1 And he made the correct decision, too. :)

Barth
05-10-2012, 01:39 PM
In a time when it's hard to like government.
I'm still very glad I escaped communist California 20 years ago
to live free in a state called a Florida.

Longitude Zero
05-10-2012, 05:30 PM
Agree with the Gov.

Deano
05-10-2012, 06:30 PM
This brings up an interesting question about Florida law. Would it even be legal for Governor Scott to do this, or would it require legislative action? If the Governor can simply impose a random ban for this reason, who then decides what criterion will justify another ban in the next town, or by the next Governor (maybe a liberal gun hater next time)? This would open up a whole big can of worms, and I applaud Gov. Scott for not caving. I'm pretty sure our governor would have caved in a half second.

Any time a single figurehead stomps on individual freedoms without regard to the will of the people, it sets a very bad precedent that, once established, makes it easier the next time.

jg rider
05-10-2012, 08:01 PM
This brings up an interesting question about Florida law. Would it even be legal for Governor Scott to do this, or would it require legislative action? If the Governor can simply impose a random ban for this reason, who then decides what criterion will justify another ban in the next town, or by the next Governor (maybe a liberal gun hater next time)? This would open up a whole big can of worms, and I applaud Gov. Scott for not caving. I'm pretty sure our governor would have caved in a half second.

Any time a single figurehead stomps on individual freedoms without regard to the will of the people, it sets a very bad precedent that, once established, makes it easier the next time.

That is a good question. The only thing I can get fro that article is:

Buckhorn requested “an executive order prohibiting the transportation of firearms in downtown Tampa during the RNC,” which will take place in Tampa over four days in August.
A 2011 Florida Law mandates that firearms can only be regulated at the state level; cities and counties may not make their own rules.
Even without any action by Scott, Guns will not be permitted inside the Convention itself under a Secret Service mandated ban. But Buckhorn would like to extend that ban to include all of Downtown Tampa, considered part of the “Event Zone.”

Deano
05-10-2012, 08:16 PM
That is a good question. The only thing I can get fro that article is:

Buckhorn requested “an executive order prohibiting the transportation of firearms in downtown Tampa during the RNC,” which will take place in Tampa over four days in August.
A 2011 Florida Law mandates that firearms can only be regulated at the state level; cities and counties may not make their own rules.
Even without any action by Scott, Guns will not be permitted inside the Convention itself under a Secret Service mandated ban. But Buckhorn would like to extend that ban to include all of Downtown Tampa, considered part of the “Event Zone.”
I'm not a big fan of the "executive order". It generally reeks of lacking something important called consensus.

jg rider
05-10-2012, 08:24 PM
I'm not a big fan of the "executive order". It generally reeks of lacking something important called consensus.

What consensus do you mean, nation wide, state wide, or just the citizens of Tampa?

Deano
05-10-2012, 09:07 PM
What consensus do you mean, nation wide, state wide, or just the citizens of Tampa?
Nation wide if it's the POTUS, state wide if you're talking about the governor. I just feel like executive orders are way too dictatorial. We don't elect dictators, we elect people to uphold the law of the land. As an example, I'm sure you're aware that our governor has refused to allow capital punishment to take place while he's in office. This in spite of the fact that it is law, and has been passed in at least two general elections, by the voters. The people have spoken. I feel he has a duty to uphold the laws of the state. If our governor won't uphold the laws on the books, why should we as citizens be held to a higher standard? Maybe there are times when it is necessary, as in ambiguous laws about gray areas that come to the fore, but generally speaking, our government is by the people, for the people. I don't like executive orders that contradict existing law. Too much power delegated to one person.

jg rider
05-10-2012, 09:23 PM
Nation wide if it's the POTUS, state wide if you're talking about the governor. I just feel like executive orders are way too dictatorial. We don't elect dictators, we elect people to uphold the law of the land. As an example, I'm sure you're aware that our governor has refused to allow capital punishment to take place while he's in office. This in spite of the fact that it is law, and has been passed in at least two general elections, by the voters. The people have spoken. I feel he has a duty to uphold the laws of the state. If our governor won't uphold the laws on the books, why should we as citizens be held to a higher standard? Maybe there are times when it is necessary, as in ambiguous laws about gray areas that come to the fore, but generally speaking, our government is by the people, for the people. I don't like executive orders that contradict existing law. Too much power delegated to one person.

Our gov was a doctor. He follows the hypocritical oath

Deano
05-10-2012, 11:39 PM
Our gov was a doctor. He follows the hypocritical oath

We didn't elect him doctor. We elected him gov. He's wearing a different hat now.

jg rider
05-10-2012, 11:46 PM
We didn't elect him doctor. We elected him gov. He's wearing a different hat now.

That's why I wrote hypocritical not Hippocratic

Deano
05-10-2012, 11:49 PM
That's why I wrote hypocritical not Hippocratic

LOL. I didn't want to be an ass and correct your spelling.

jg rider
05-11-2012, 12:46 AM
LOL. I didn't want to be an ass and correct your spelling.

Thanks for being sensitive to my feelings

Deano
05-11-2012, 12:58 AM
Thanks for being sensitive to my feelings

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