For you Mosin Nagant fans

[Popeye]

For you Mosin Nagant fans. Shooting a 1,000 yds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2M1hC4c0tc

[warbird1]

I've been looking at the Mosin Nagant. Specifically the carbine. What do you think of them?

[Mike_B]

That is amazing- I had no idea on a shot like that the bullet would drop 32 feet. thanks for the link to the cool video. I shot expert with my M16 in the Army, but never learned anything about long distance shooting like that. I was thinking about getting a Mosin since they're so cheap. Are they all pretty much that accurate?

[Popeye]

I've been looking at the Mosin Nagant. Specifically the carbine. What do you think of them?

Most fun you can have with a high powered rifle that cost under $150. Ammo is cheap and there built like a tank.

I love shooting mine.

[gb6491]

I've been looking at the Mosin Nagant. Specifically the carbine. What do you think of them?
I like my carbine (91/59) enough that I decided to trade my Savage Scout in on something else. The reasoning behind that is:
Both rifles are very similar in size.
After trying it, I never liked the forward optic mount on the Savage, so both guns were set up for iron sight use.The Savage was little easier to shoot accurately with a longer sight radius and peep sight, but elevation changes required a screwdriver.
The Savage is faster to operate with the bolt handle being positioned at the rear of the bolt, but I like the length of pull better on the Mosin.
I never liked the big rubber recoil pad on the Savage. The metal one on the Mosin would surely leave a lasting impression.
.308 and 7.62x54R are quite comparable, but cost certainly favors the 7.62x54R.
I needed room in my safe.
http://i40.tinypic.com/261ksvn.jpg
Regards,
Greg

[jlottmc]

I have an M44 Polish made, good gun, shoots well, and until I got my AR, I considered that my assault rifle. Bottom line, they are simple, cheap as anything, hit plenty hard, and fun to shoot too.

[Bawanna]

I have a M44 too, at least I think I do, I thought I had a 91/30 but turns out it's something else.

I haven't shot the M44 yet but it's on the to do list.

[Tinman507]

Resurrecting this thread coz....Daddy bought a new toy today.
It's an M91/30 Izhevsk built in 1942. Bought from Aim Surplus and picked it up today at my FFL Gunsmith buddy's place. I asked him to fully check it out and make sure it wasn't junk. He said it looks like it was barely ever used. Headspace is perfect, barrel crown perfect, rifling perfect. It's in pristine condition.

My son and I took it down and cleaned all the cosmoline or whatever the Russian equivalent is. It was packed completely in the stuff. Got her all put back together as the sun set so I didn't get photos yet. We plan on shooting this beauty this weekend.

It's really amazing to think where and what this rifle may have been and seen in it's past. The Siege of Stalingrad, The Fall of Berlin. Who knows.

Next on the bucket list is an M1 Garand. I love history. I love holding it even more.

Pics to follow in daylight.

[Popeye]

Good luck with it Tinman. I also have a 1942 Izzy(Izhevsk) that has also been recrowned and counterbored. It is a lot of fun to shoot and the milsurplus ammo is cheap but very dirty and corrosive . It's very important to clean the barrel as soon as possible after every shooting. I have a small bottle of windex I take with me to the range to spray down the barrel. I have recently heard that PB Blaster is good for cleaning the barrels but have not tried it myself as of yet. I have used PB blaster on nuts and bolts before and would not be suprised if it did do a good job on the barrels. I keep the inside of my barrel well oiled between shootings as they will rust up if not kept in a dry area. Happy cleaning.

If these three could speak I'd love to hear what would have to say.6052

[DeaconKC]

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm

[yqtszhj]

I've had the urge to get one. They are only $119 at the EXPENSIVE gun shop and they have already cleaned them up for the buyer.

But I would want a bent bolt handle and a $800 scope. I want to try the 1000 yards and I cant see that far with my eyes. I guess that would make the rifle an accessory for the scope instead of the other way around.

[Tinman507]

$119 already cleaned? that's a deal. I'm still cleaning this one. It's better but it's still oozing from all sorts of places.

http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/mosinnagant.jpg

Better photos to follow in daylight and all cleaned up.

[Planedude]

Buy two Nagants and four tins of ammo along with one box of cleaning supplies.

You are now ready for the Zombie Apocalypse...

Even if it fails to happen in fifty more years.

[Tinman507]

We may well end up with two. My son is so enamored with it he's going to buy one. He's got his heart set on a Colt AR and is saving his pennies (hopefully he'll have a career soon) but he wants one of these as a toy and stand in SHTF gun until he can buy what he wants.

[Popeye]

One more American family hooked on Mosins. :D Congrats.

[Tinman507]

Thanks!
Popeye, you're partly to blame for this one. Read your post and decided to pull the trigger.

Ammo should arrive today. Range trip scheduled for tomorrow.
Just about have all the gunk cleaned out and gave it a good EZEOX all over.
Will see how this goes.

[Planedude]

If you go looking for Scope mounts and turnned down bolts may I suggest:

http://www.rocksolidind.com/

Interesting site and products. I have not used them but have freinds that have.

[Tinman507]

Thanks!
Likely going to keep this one as Little Josef Vissarionovich originally intended, but we'll see.

[Tinman507]

Well, Ammo showed up a little early. My son had to pull a 1900-0700 shift on the ambulance so he conned me into ripping up to the range and trying the Izhevsk out before he had to bug out.

Since it had been checked out I was pretty confident it would be ok, but still had some nervous butterflies.

Tried loading from the clips the ammo shipped on. No go. Manually loaded the first 5.

All I can say is WOW!! Talk about kicking like a mule. A Russian Mule (мул). Holy crap. I was sitting at a bench on a block. It kicked my ever lovin behind.

I stood up and it was loads better but still painful. I was tucked in tight and good stance but WOW this thing kicks butt. Did ok on the 50yd range. I saw and hit the paper. I'm ok with that. There's no way you go to the range and rip through 100rnds of this stuff.

Here's some iPhone pics of the kid shooting it. More to follow of the old man as soon as the kid sends em to me.

http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/mosinGeoff.jpg
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/mosinGeoff3.jpg
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/mosinGeoff4.jpg
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/MosinOldMan1.jpg

[Bawanna]

Kicks huh? Maybe I should leave mine in wall hanger status, I got a low pain threshold you know?

I've heard that you notice right off if there's a misfire and they kick some.

I'm gonna have to try it, I'll probably cry but I just gotta know, ya know?

[Tinman507]

As much as I want to keep it all stock, I am strongly considering a limbsaver or something.

Святой дерьмом Does that thing kick. Maybe I am a wuss, but it's not for the faint of heart.

[mr surveyor]

I've heard that Mosins can all hit the broad side of a barn with ease... from the inside:D

[Tinman507]

I read they're also effective treatment for dislocated shoulders.

[Popeye]

Tinman they make an inexpensive recoil pad for them that will make that beast a lot more fun for you to shoot. The sharp metal edges on the butt plate on those Mosin's is a killer for us older guys.
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91/30 m44 Mosin Nagant Rubber Recoil Butt Pad

[Tinman507]

Oh hell yeah, that's what I'm talkin about!
Thanks again Popeye!!

[Popeye]

Your quite welcome. Glad I could save you a couple trips to the Doc's office complaining of shoulder pain. ;) Chances are you will shoot it a lot better also. I know I shoot mine better with it on there. I also like the fact that it adds about an inch and a quarter to the length of the stock. Just seems to work better for me.
Warning though. If you like the Mosin's do not under any sircumstances ever, and I do mean never ever even go near an SKS. At this time I won't even talk about the terrible addiction of M1 Garands and Carbines.

[Bawanna]

So Tinman, who's the old guy you added in the last picture, your grandpa?

Popeye, I have a Mosin 91 and a 44 carbine as well as an SKS. Haven't shot any of them yet. Which one should I shoot last.

Maybe the Mosin last, hard to shoot even an SKS with a busted shoulder. I better get me one of them buttstock pillows my own self.

[Popeye]

Bawanna Shoot the SKS first. They kick about the same as a 30/30. I'm serious that recoil pad for the Mosin works wonders. I think that thing kicks harder than my Garand. The butt plate on the Garand is alot more refined and the edges rounded then that of a Mosin. Younger guys, or guys with a little more beef in the shoulder area might not have a problem with the Mosin recoil. At 66 though it's not fun for me.

[Bawanna]

I handle my Garand alright although its been a spell since I had it out. Hold it often, shoot it seldom.

I'll get me one of them pads for the Mosin.

I shot other SKS's long ago, just never got around to shooting my own. Guess I'm due. I bought it right before the Clinton ban. Paid 90 bucks all cleaned up, worth a bit more now based on ones I seen.

[Popeye]

Yes Bawanna you could turn a pretty good profit on the SKS if you ever decided to sell it. After I cleaned up my Mosin and refinished the stock a friend offered me twice what I paid for it, which got me to thinking maybe I just ought to sell it to him and buy two more and do the same thing over again. Only problem is as of late I haven't seen to many 91/30's in good condition with laminate stocks. Which is the main reason he wanted it and was willing to pay that kind of money. That and it been refubed counter bored and recrowned and for a rifle it's age still shoots pretty darned good. Using cheap commie ammo though it's only going to be so accurate. I'll have to get some of the good ammo and see just how accurate I can shoot it. They are fun and a cheap way to shoot once you tame the recoil down.

[Tinman507]

There's no old guys in those pics. I'm a young guy who had a rough paper route.

[Popeye]

"O" Tinman you wouldn't be jokin us now would ya?:D