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ilmbaba
05-10-2012, 06:37 PM
I had been looking at a CW45 for awhile, almost bought it twice, and walked away each time. Not sure why, because I like how it feels (except for the aggressive texturing on the grip). Went back to look at it today, and ended up ordering a CM40.
I had been looking at the CM9, but never picked it up because it's very stiff, and some of the stories I'd come across made me nervous. That's actually why I joined this forum.
After reading how so many people love it, and how it's a great gun once you get past the break-in period, I decided to take a chance. I'm thinking it's not a big risk because it sounds like Kahr does a great job on their customer service.
If you already have a CM40, feel free to leave a note saying how much you love it, and any tips on how to get through the break-in period with my patience intact.
I read that there's some great info on the Tech pages for breaking in a new Kahr, and I will be reading it. It seemed like everyone who posted that they followed that advice had few or no issues at the start.
Looking forward to getting started, and if it goes well, I'm sure I'll end up with the CW45 too.
Thanks.
jocko
05-10-2012, 06:43 PM
nothing wrong with the cm40. It just came out and it is the same size as the cm9 but expect some good recoil for that 40 cal, ur shooting the lightest 40 cal semi on the market, so expect to know it. Good grip is a must.
while ur waiting read the two good stickys' on the kahr tech section
#1 kahr lube chart
#2 propper prepping of ur new kahr
They are all suggestions, pck ur own path. Kahrs are extremely reliable, so don't read and believe everything u see either. This forum shoots from the him and these guys know their kahrs, so no question is ever a dumb question.
READ THE KAHR OWNERS MANUAL
Not sure we have an cm40 members here yet, that I know of, this gun is very new out..
TucsonMTB
05-10-2012, 07:13 PM
If you already have a CM40, feel free to leave a nite saying how much you love it, and any tips on how to get through the break-in period with my patience intact.
http://viewsfromtucson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/PM40s01-800.jpg
I have two of the predecessors to the CM40, the PM40. They are so similar that if you fired one you would not know the difference. Great guns. Yours will look a lot like the one on the op in this image.
Jocko has already pointed you at the very helpful preparation and lubrication threads. They are very good, but don't get too caught up in every detail. Lots of people have had good success with much less effort.
It may be useful to find a slip on grip or a pair of shooting gloves for your first outing. When new, the agressive plastic checkering on the grip can be a bit uncomfortable. And take along a band-aide or two to protect the side of your trigger finger from the inside of the trigger guard. Eventually, you will develop a callus, at least I did, but at first there was a tender spot after 150 rounds.
Oh, and that might be the other tip. Keep your range trips shorter than I did. I tend to get carried away. This is a fun "hand cannon". :)
ilmbaba
05-10-2012, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I do expect some "backtalk" from the .40 but I opted for a bigger bullet and a slightly lower capacity. I can't wait to get started with this.
bonjorno2
05-10-2012, 09:31 PM
ahhh, mine's been on order from my lgs since March... 398 OTD but now I wish i would of forked over another 30 bucks and got one on gunbroker or a local gun show! FML
I've owned a pm40 and let it go when i was younger to fund another purchase.... easy to pocket carry and plenty of power! Enjoy
Joe L
05-11-2012, 07:19 AM
From the picture gallery...I love my PM40! But it is a handful...of Kahr goodness.
http://joelynch.smugmug.com/photos/i-2DzQL8W/0/M/i-2DzQL8W-M.jpg
http://joelynch.smugmug.com/photos/i-8GZt782/0/M/i-8GZt782-M.jpg
olympicmotorcars
05-12-2012, 11:00 PM
Don't worry the 40 is very manageable in the PM and CM platforms. I love mine and feel very good about having 6 rounds of 40 in my pocket.
ilmbaba
05-13-2012, 05:19 PM
BACKORDERED! Bummer. No delivery date available.
What to do.....should I stick it out and wait for the CM40 or should I grab the CM9 (readily available)?
drgad
05-13-2012, 05:36 PM
I too have the PM40; it's my favorite gun, and carried every day! Recoil is not bad at all IMO; you know you're shooting a 40, so you just hold on a little tighter! Had a LCP but sold it because it was SO close in size to the PM40! (I'd start to carry the LCP then think, if I should have to use this, I'd sure rather have my 40!); have a Glock 27 too; still carry the PM40 almost exclusively! Other day, went out and shot about 6 different brands of JHP which a friend (security officer) had given me - result? No issues at all! Really like this gun!
jocko
05-13-2012, 05:37 PM
cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9
jocko
05-13-2012, 06:27 PM
good point on the easier to shoot and cheaper to shoot . Nodoubt if u wantto carry a mini cannon the cm40 certainly would be that. Neverhave shot one but my thoughts wouldbe after a 100 round range session with a cm40 ur gonna know u have been to the range. U read far far more comments about the "felt" frecoil of the 40 cal kahrs over probably any other caliber they make,..It is wha tit is a very hot round--by design.
jocko
05-13-2012, 06:28 PM
good point on the easier to shoot and cheaper to shoot . Nodoubt if u wantto carry a mini cannon the cm40 certainly would be that. Neverhave shot one but my thoughts wouldbe after a 100 round range session with a cm40 ur gonna know u have been to the range. U read far far more comments about the "felt" frecoil of the 40 cal kahrs over probably any other caliber they make,..It is wha tit is a very hot round--by design.
I have always wondered and just that wondered, as I have no basis for anything either but I have over 32k through my PM9 and it looks totally new, I wonder if I had a PM40 with 32K if it would be looking the same???Just sayin
ilmbaba
05-13-2012, 08:43 PM
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the CM40 is that I have a Glock 20 10mm, so I could use the same dies to reload both. As cheap as 9mm ammo is, it's almost not worth reloading.
I just picked up 4 boxes of 9mm and 40S&W at a Runnings Grand Opening for $8.99 each 9mm and $10.99 each 40 S&W. Actually, if I don't pick up a 40, I'll be sitting on a bunch of ammo.
Maybe I'll pick up the CM9 for pocket carry, and grab a CW40 for giggles.
ilmbaba
05-13-2012, 09:48 PM
cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9
Jocko,
I get the feeling you're trying to tell me something. Just a hunch.....
O'Dell
05-13-2012, 11:43 PM
cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9
Hey Jocko, I never knew you stuttered. :behindsofa:
jocko
05-14-2012, 06:53 AM
Jocko,
I get the feeling you're trying to tell me something. Just a hunch.....
trying to tellu something, It is OK to LEAN towards a cm40 but buy the cm9 cm9 cm9 cm9; Just sayin
jocko
05-14-2012, 06:54 AM
Hey Jocko, I never knew you stuttered. :behindsofa:
its another tell tail sign of ol ol old old age creeping in.
pitbull1022
05-14-2012, 11:17 AM
I ordered my CM40 about a month before they started shipping them. Have had it about 2 months now. Love it. Recoil ain't as bad as you would think. After a few hundred rounds it gets a little less stiff. Its my daily carry Now. Still tight to rack the slide. Love it so much that I sold my CW40 to my brother in law. Didn't really want to. But he made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Besides it was just sitting in the safe not getting carried.
TheTman
05-14-2012, 01:57 PM
I was shooting my CW45, then switched to my CW40, and I thought the recoil was a bit lighter on the CW40. Probably because I was switching from Hydra Shoks in .45 to WWB on the .40
Grady
05-14-2012, 02:03 PM
Hi Guys,
Got my CM 40 last week, first 10 rounds, mag follower broke. Kahr has one the way!!. After being a soild Sig, Glock fan for many years, I am worried about the quality of the Kahr pistols. After having this problem I have found that this is a fairly common occurance. Dating back from 2008? Would someone explain why this is still an issuse with Khar magazine followers
Grady?
bonjorno2
05-14-2012, 03:20 PM
welcome to the forum, make a seperate thread about it and it might get address better.
jocko
05-14-2012, 03:21 PM
I would not call it a fairly common occurance but it has happened and I have no clue as to why,how or what is causing it...
My thoughts and they arejust mine is that on some guns and then on some particul guns the feed ramp cold be bashing into the front of the follower and causing it. I have no basis for this either as I know that when most of the followers that break are replace, most of the time the issue goes away. And that would IMO kill my theory, for if it was the feed ramp, it wold still want to bash the follower. We do know that sometime kahr wants to see the entire gun sent back for their nspection and maybe some mod that we don't see either.
No doubt kahr isn't please with it, I don't think it is a bad material either. Other gun makers have polymer followers and don'thave this issue. If u have it happen call kahr get anew follower and give it another try, if it persists, I would ask kahr then to take the gun back for their inspection. I have hadover 32K through my PM9 and I had a cracked follower that I did not even know it was cracked until I took my mag apart one day to clean it and out fell two follower peaces. The gun had never produced a failure even. I replaced that follower and I have never had another issues. Go figure!!!!
O'Dell
05-14-2012, 03:42 PM
Hi Grady, welcome to the forum.
I've never had a magazine problem in any of the seven Kahrs I've owned, but I have read of them from time to time. Kahr doesn't make their mags, so a bad crop could slip in, but it's not that common. As far as the pistols go, I've been a SIG fan since 1980 and had quite a few, and I think Kahr's quality is easily as high as SIG and their service is usually great. Don't know about Glock - never had or wanted one. No Kahr or SIG has failed me yet. In fact the only failures I've had in recent years are from STI and Kimber. I'm not counting the 32 year old Detonics because it's a collector gun, not a carry piece, and I'm getting it straightened out anyway.
jocko
05-14-2012, 03:51 PM
all kahr mags also come to kahr fully assembled, meaning if the mag springs are put in backwards.Kahr has no way of knowing that. not an excuse but a fact and something that Kahr and the vendor need to get a better hand on to. Again it is not epedemic either but when ithappens to you, it is irritating but certainly IMO not a game changer.
We recommend taking all mags apart before that first bang thing to just be sure all is welland right. Eventualy ur gonna take a mag apart, sowhy not do it before u ever shoot it to make sure all is right and well.
ilmbaba
05-16-2012, 07:47 PM
Dropped by the LGS today. They ordered 2 CM40s again, and they think they will get allocated, so I should have this by next week. I will know for sure on Friday (they even said if they do get them, it could be in house by Friday). I was thinking of changing to the CM9 or even the Beretta Nano, but I will be set up to reload 10mm, so the 40 makes more sense. It better hurry though, because they have a Marlin 1894C in 357 Mag that I've had my eye on, and.....
well.....there's always the following week for that. I am the ultimate kid in the candy shop.
bonjorno2
05-16-2012, 08:18 PM
my lgs ordered about 10 of them months ago and still haven't received them so best of luck to you!
Infidel proud
05-16-2012, 08:27 PM
Can't say much about the cm40 but I do own a cm9 and a cw45 with prob around 600 rounds through each. All I can say is you will be impressed...
ilmbaba
05-16-2012, 08:48 PM
my lgs ordered about 10 of them months ago and still haven't received them so best of luck to you!
Gotta stay positive. The salesman confirmed that there were 2 available at their warehouse, but his laptop isn't updated throughout the day. The lgs owner checked online, and there are two on his order, but no serial numbers were listed. When he can see the serial numbers, that means they are his. I'm supposed to call on Friday, but I'll probably find a reason to call tomorrow.
ilmbaba
05-17-2012, 01:47 PM
It is confirmed. Serial numbers were issued. They are getting two, possibly tomorrow, but more likely the first part of next week.
Let the fun begin.
bonjorno2
05-17-2012, 02:28 PM
that's excellent, maybe the leo one's go out a little later or who knows... post pics i am looking at pm40's now
ilmbaba
05-17-2012, 03:18 PM
Don't think I can post pictures until I have 30 posts, but I will when I can. The PM40 sounds nice, but since I reload, the CM40 fits my needs (lead is cheaper to shoot). I'm sure I'll use factory SD rounds to carry, but when I burn through target and practice rounds, I'll save a bunch with lead.
Does anyone know if the break-in period should be only FMJ, or is lead OK?
Just wondering. I picked up several boxes of Federal Champion, but I read that it is at the low end of the power scale and wasn't very reliable when first starting out with a new Kahr.
TheTman
05-17-2012, 04:09 PM
Let us know how you like that CM40, I been thinking about getting one, or hopefully a CM45 when/if those come out. I would sure hate to have to drop my $1000.00 Boberg in an evidence bag and never see it again. But, of course chances are I'll never have to use it anyway. Also looking at the Shield and the Nano. Probably will just stick with the Boberg since I'll most likely never draw it in a SD situation since I don't get out much.
ilmbaba
05-17-2012, 07:29 PM
thetmanski - How do you like your CW45 and your CW40?
ilmbaba
05-18-2012, 06:07 PM
Well, it didn't come today, so the earliest I will see it is Tuesday evening, but most likely Wednesday. I'm bummed. I was hoping to spend the weekend racking the slide.
ilmbaba
05-21-2012, 11:54 AM
I am getting impatient. I already picked up the brake cleaner (non-chlorinated) and the #6 Torx wrench. Figures work would pull me out of town for these next few days.
ilmbaba
05-21-2012, 08:50 PM
Let us know how you like that CM40, I been thinking about getting one, or hopefully a CM45 when/if those come out.
I am hoping that next year's release will be a CM45, to match the PM45 (as the CM40 matched the PM40 this year). I would have loved to put a mini 45 in my pocket. Bought a G36, but just didn't like how it felt, and it was just too big for the pocket. Springfield has that XDs 45, but it was delayed for awhile, although I called and they are supposed to start shipping by the end of this month, and should start showing up in stores next month.
JFootin
05-21-2012, 09:52 PM
I am hoping that next year's release will be a CM45, to match the PM45 (as the CM40 matched the PM40 this year). I would have loved to put a mini 45 in my pocket. Bought a G36, but just didn't like how it felt, and it was just too big for the pocket. Springfield has that XDs 45, but it was delayed for awhile, although I called and they are supposed to start shipping by the end of this month, and should start showing up in stores next month.
The XDs is as big as a P45/CW45, even though it carries 1 less round like the smaller PM45.
ilmbaba
05-22-2012, 09:55 PM
Well, I finally picked it up. It was oily, packed in a plastic bag, and beautiful. I will work on some break-in procedures (although I have seen several posts lately that says they've been fine right out of the box).
I'll post a range report when I get out (probably over the weekend).
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee159/InHisService2007/IMAG0308.jpg
ilmbaba
05-23-2012, 12:18 AM
Took it apart a few times, cleaned it up, and gave it a good once-over. Everything looks good, and I took the magazine apart. That spring looks right too. I oiled the slide and barrel, and racked it about 100 times. Think I'll put a glove on for the next 100. The slide is a little stiff, and the cocking serrations take a toll after awhile.
Can't wait to get out and shoot it.
emopunker2004
05-23-2012, 02:28 AM
The XDs is as big as a P45/CW45, even though it carries 1 less round like the smaller PM45.
According to both manufacturers sites the XD-S is .4" shorter in height, .2" thinner at the slide, and .04" shorter than the CW45 and .23" longer than the P45. I'd say the XD-S is slightly smmaller. The .4" difference in height is what would matter most to me. I would like to pick up an XD-S once the price comes down.
mightymouse
05-23-2012, 03:33 PM
Yep! And, neither as "pocketable" as Mr. ilmbaba's CM40 (4.0" in height compared to the 4.49" tall PM45 and and 4.4" tall XD-S). Trust me, as a .45 ACP enthusiast who prefers pocket carry, I looked hard at the Kahr PM45 and tried it in my pockets more than once before settling on the PM40.
At about the same size as a PM9, the CM40 is an awesome choice for concealed carry (especially in a pocket).
+ the .40, being designed for short barrel, lose less velocity out of the compacts than .45s.
Not starting any caliber battles.... and no I don't want to sand in front of anyone's .45 :eek:
david8613
05-23-2012, 05:55 PM
how is the recoil on the cm40 compared to a pm/cm 9?
bonjorno2
05-23-2012, 08:58 PM
so that's what they look like... nice range report for sure!
ilmbaba
05-23-2012, 10:47 PM
I had a chance to go out and shoot my new CM40 today. Before I left, I broke it down one more time and followed the Lubrication Guide on the Tech forum.
I ran 75 rounds of Federal Champion 180 gr JFP.
NOT ONE ISSUE!
Well, actually, I had one small issue, but I'm sure it was my own fault. I think I messed something up when I put the magazine back together. The follower, after the first round is inserted, has to be nudged back so it will feed into the magazine. After shot #39, the last round in the mag didn't feed, and the magazine actually released from the gun (too stiff yet to fall free, and I may have hit the release). It took 3 tries before I could get the mag to stay seated. After that, no more problems.
The gun does have a noticeable recoil, but I don't think it was "bad". I would have run through the whole hundred, but I was running out of light and had some 45 Supers to chronograph. I'm sure the CM9 would be easier on the hand, but the .40 S&W will make a much bigger hole, and probably scare the BG since it's much louder than a 9mm.
My biggest disappointment was that I forgot to pick up some sort of grip cover. After the first 5 rounds, the waffle was already imprinted on the palm of my hand. I put on a thin glove, and had no more issues with it.
I 'm not sure, but I think I need to readjust the rear sight. All my shots grouped to the left of center, but when I really hunkered down and concentrated, I hit dead center, so it could very well just be me getting used to the 5 mile trigger pull. Either way, if my target was a BG, all 75 would have got him thinking.
It's definitely not a "range" gun, but with some reloads that are on the lower end of the scale, I think it could be. I had fun shooting it, and I was very happy that I had no issues that weren't self-induced.
If you pick up a new CM40 or CM9, I strongly recommend you pay attention to some of the break-in prep suggested. No way to prove it, but I did some of that stuff, and I had no issues in the first 75.
One thing that was a pain. That gun throws brass a country mile. I only recovered about half of what I shot. It didn't help that I was on USFS land, and the grass and poison ivy are growing.
I could not be happier with my selection for an EDC pocket weapon.
TucsonMTB
05-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Glad it's working for you!
The follower bit is odd. Sounds almost like mine when the front skirt broke off the follower. The skirt should keep everything in the magazine and make the spring invisible from outside. If you can see the magazine spring just by looking at the front of the magazine, the follower is probably broken. I hope not, but it's pretty common with Kahr "fotays".
Admittedly, it could be the way the spring is seated on the follower. Try reversing it (top to bottom) the next time you have it apart and remember that the top leading edge of the spring should be at the front of the magazine.
Thanks for the good news! I'm sure it will only get better. :)
http://viewsfromtucson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1-Side-View.jpg
Healthy magazine followers.
ilmbaba
05-25-2012, 12:58 PM
Glad it's working for you!
The follower bit is odd. Sounds almost like mine when the front skirt broke off the follower. The skirt should keep everything in the magazine and make the spring invisible from outside. If you can see the magazine spring just by looking at the front of the magazine, the follower is probably broken. I hope not, but it's pretty common with Kahr "fotays".
That appears to be exactly what happened. I took the magazine apart and out falls a piece of black plastic. I could see the spring in the magazine while it was assembled, so I figured something was up.
Went to the Kahr website to get their phone number, but it appears to be down (they must have known I would be calling:)).
I'm sure they'll do the right thing for me. It seems like their customer service is top notch, according to what I've been reading.
At least the gun still fired. I don't consider this anything more than an annoying issue.
Thanks for the info, Tucson.
ilmbaba
05-25-2012, 02:52 PM
Well, back to Kahr it goes. They offered to send out a replacement follower, but thought it would be best to send the gun back so they could give it a once-over and make sure everything was lined up correctly. They are sending a prepaid shipping label, so life is good. Might as well get it out of the way now.
I'll miss it while it's gone.
jocko
05-25-2012, 03:18 PM
I had one of those followers break like thatin my PM9, and it never malfunctioned even, actually I didn't know it was broke even until I took my mag apart to clean and inspect it. One in over 32K so I just installed another one and so far all is well. Have no clue as to what caused it. I hav eto maybe chalk this up to a poorly made follower
jocko
05-25-2012, 05:31 PM
unless he can visibly see wha tthey did, i DOUBT IF THEY TELL HIM, probably gonna get a n answerlike "polished feed ramp. and slide stop installed new follower" If they do any feed ramp mod, I doubt if the owner will see it as it willbe so professionally done, it will never be noticeable. They willget it right and being they werewilling to take it back other than a few weeks without it, he did the right thing..
ilmbaba
05-25-2012, 06:24 PM
It's already on the truck. They e-mailed a label, and I boxed it up and sent it off. If they do some sort of modification inside, Jocko's right. I'll never know it.
When I get it back, if it works and doesn't break the follower, I'll be happy. It shot well, felt good, and the price was right. I can wait a few more weeks to finish the break-in. In reality, aside from the magazine issue, the gun worked fine. None of the issues I've read about others having.
I almost picked up the CW45 today, but thought I'd just wait and see how this plays out first.
TheTman
05-25-2012, 11:30 PM
Ilmbaba, sorry to get back to you so late, I didn't see your question to me about how I like my CW40 and .45. The CW40 has been a great pistol right out of the box, it was my first polymer pistol and I had a limp wrist problem I needed to cure before I functioned perfectly. Since then never a problem with it, and I really like it. It has quite a bit of muzzle flip, so I ordered the ported barrel for it to see if that tames it down some and I can get off a quicker double tap. My CW45 had to go back to the mother ship, after about 100 rounds, the trigger would not reset, making the gun totally useless. I sent it to Kahr, and they had it back in my hands working perfectly. I really like both of them, they are accurate and very dependable now. Only problem is the CW45 will not feed from the 7 round mags, Kahr wants me to send the pistol and mags back to them to see what's going on, I'm going to get around to doing that one of these days. I did put a Handall Jr. on each of them, and wear some shorty padded biker gloves when shooting to avoid the "cheese grater" effect. Both let you know you've shot a big cartridge out of a light gun, nothing like shooting my 1911's, but for CC either one works for me. I put a laser on the CW45, so it spends more time on me, than the CW40 does, but if that ported barrel works out like I hope, I may get another laser and carry the CW40 more. I bought the CW40 first, as I needed a backup gun in .40 cal for a SD class I was taking, or I might have skipped it and went straight to the CW45. But, I think the .40 will do about any job the .45 will do, just makes a tad smaller hole. I just always have liked the .45, and tend to carry that more often than the .40. I don't see much difference in recoil between the two, others say the .40 is kind of snappy while the .45 is more of a push. I can't wait to see what the ported barrel does for the .40. I plan on shooting a mag thru the old barrel with some Winchester Rangers, then switch barrels and shoot another mag of Rangers, and see how it goes. I'm hoping for a big decrease in muzzle flip, for a quicker follow up shot. If that's the case, the CW40, may replace the CW45 as my 2nd EDC. I have a Boberg 9, that is easy to slip into my front pocket and it splits time with my Kahrs, for a fast run to the quick mart and stuff.
ilmbaba
06-08-2012, 06:59 PM
It's on the way home! Possible I can get it tomorrow if FedEx outdoes themselves, but likely next week, and I'm out of town again until Thursday. I'll post what they leave for a note, and if I got any door prizes.
I was so happy, I ended up buying the CW45 today. I'll post that under a different thread.
Thanks.
cmichael22
06-11-2012, 08:35 PM
Whats the differences between the PM40 and CM40 or are there not really any?
They look identical!
TheTman
06-11-2012, 11:04 PM
PM40 has the polygonal rifling, and comes with 2 mags. CM40 has conventional rifling and comes with 1 mag. People with a PM9 and a CM9 say both shoot and feel the same, the less expensive barrel and 1 mag lets the CM sell for less, much like the CW series vs the P series. They also say not to shoot lead out of the polygonal barrel, but I've heard of people doing so with no ill effects, I guess the polygonal barrel is easier to lead foul than the conventional barrel. I guess you just need to clean it well and remove the lead fouling from the barrel.
On conventional barrels, I've had the groups tighten up after shooting a few rounds of lead handloads thru them. That was the case on a Beretta 92, and a Star Model M, both 9mm. My friend said his uncle told him about that trick, and it seems to work. It made the Beretta a real tack driver, and made the Star shoot more respectable groups. I bought the Star on sale and due to it's reputation for being a tough pistol, not for it being a tack driver, back in the "wonder nine" days. I read where someone took one and shot 100,000 rounds through it, only replacing springs that wore out. Plus it's a nice heavy 1911 looking pistol. Only thing I really don't like about it is removing the mag deactivates it. Can't even lower the hammer without a mag in it. Has no decocker. Star is out of business now after a failed attempt to merge with Astra, both companies bit the dust in May, 1997. They were hoping someone like Beretta would buy the companies, but that never materialized, and the machinery was sold at auction, and some gun company bought up all the spare parts, while frames and barrels were destroyed by the Spanish government. Too bad, as the Star was not a bad pistol for someone on a budget, and accuracy was about the same as an inexpensive 1911.
RMP96
06-16-2012, 11:21 AM
I bought a CM40 at the Tampa gun show in early June. Paid $356 for it.
Cleaned & lubed it before first trip to range. On round # 47 I found I was unable to load more than one round in mag. as the follower was broke (front skirt clean brake as somebody else described)
Spoke to Ian at Kahr who advised he would be sending a replacement follower. If that should break they would take the gun back and make adjustments. Still waiting for the replacement follower to arrive.
I have been carrying a PM9 for at least 4 years and shooting it regularly. I did have to send it back to Kahr for the "peening" problem in the first year. After they fixed it all has been fine.
Am hoping the new follower will fix that mag and will be picking up additional mags at the next show.
The 47 rounds I was able to fire were very accurate and the recoil was not a problem. I am hoping my CM40 will prove dependable and replace the 9mm for daily carry.
Glad I was able to find this thread and site. Apparently the mag problem is a normal one.
ilmbaba
06-16-2012, 11:27 AM
When my follower broke, I could only load one round until I pushed the follower back a little, and then I could load the rest of the magazine. I am going to go shoot it again today, hopefully, just to make sure I am done with this issue.
ilmbaba
06-16-2012, 11:00 PM
OK. Fired another 25 rounds, and the follower stayed in one piece. Just as well, since Kahr did not send an additional magazine or follower when they sent my gun back (which is fine, but I feel a little left out).
I would have shot some more, but it was at the end of a long string of 45 Super tests and firing some in my CW45 and my 1911.
RMP96
07-03-2012, 04:05 PM
There was a dely in getting my replacement follower and called Kahr after 3 weeks. Spoke to Jay who got one out to me pretty quick. Installed it and 150 rounds later it has held up so far.
KelevGadohl
07-22-2012, 12:43 AM
Good thread.....looking to buy a CM40 soon......finally!
jocko
07-22-2012, 07:27 AM
OK. Fired another 25 rounds, and the follower stayed in one piece. Just as well, since Kahr did not send an additional magazine or follower when they sent my gun back (which is fine, but I feel a little left out).
I would have shot some more, but it was at the end of a long string of 45 Super tests and firing some in my CW45 and my 1911.
acouple of followers just to have around, they won't break ur wallet and u just never know..
Westside
09-30-2012, 05:09 PM
I'm pretty new to shooting pistols, I have a Baretta PX4 Storm and the CM40. Maybe since I don't have a lot of experience, and don't have a lot to compare the kick of the gun to, I don't really think it's that bad. I love it so far. It is more difficult to take down, imo than my baretta, and the mag release is a little difficult for me to actuate without re-positioning the gun, but maybe it'll just take some breakin for the gun and me.
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