Mas Ayoob on Compensated Guns for Carry

[Barth]

GATE Self Defense Forum:
Title:
Compensated Guns for carry
Question:

Mas,

My question is for a carry gun, what are the bad things that can happen with a compensated gun?
I realize one very good thing for it allows for reduce felt recoil from a more powerful cartridge.
But I don't know if that is good enough to overcome the bad things from a compensated gun (whatever those are).
From your experience what would do you suggest about these types of guns for carry?
Is this flash worse than the flash that can come from a revolver?
and or worse than the flash from the gun on the front page of Stress Fire
Anything you can add about this would be appreciated.

Also a big THANKS! for all that you do for 2nd amendment rights
to keeping all the community informed in such a downed to earth way.
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Answer:
Unless you use a particularly "flashy" load, there won't be that much difference in night shooting.
However, firing from a close retention position can be dangerous with a compensated gun
as it will blast hot gases and unburnt powder debris up toward your eyes.

best,
Mas

[Longitude Zero]

GATE Self Defense Forum:
Title:
Compensated Guns for carry
Question:

Mas,

My question is for a carry gun, what are the bad things that can happen with a compensated gun?
I realize one very good thing for it allows for reduce felt recoil from a more powerful cartridge.
But I don't know if that is good enough to overcome the bad things from a compensated gun (whatever those are).
From your experience what would do you suggest about these types of guns for carry?
Is this flash worse than the flash that can come from a revolver?
and or worse than the flash from the gun on the front page of Stress Fire
Anything you can add about this would be appreciated.

Also a big THANKS! for all that you do for 2nd amendment rights
to keeping all the community informed in such a downed to earth way.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Answer:
Unless you use a particularly "flashy" load, there won't be that much difference in night shooting.
However, firing from a close retention position can be dangerous with a compensated gun
as it will blast hot gases and unburnt powder debris up toward your eyes.

best,
Mas

I was only questioning about the loss of night vision. As to the debris into your eyes I seem to remember it being posted in another thread, I wonder who posted it hmmmm.

[wyntrout]

I was trying to replicate the Top Shot shooting from the hip... glad I couldn't at the range. I had to hold my Mag-na-ported P40 forward of my midsection to clear the table/rest in the shooting area. The gun was still forward of my stomach by over a foot and a bit further for the ports. I felt the rear edge of the blast ripple up my chin and face... not painful, but like a leaf blower. Had the gun been closer or at my side, I might have caught more of the blast and some of the particles of unburned powder or whatever.

I'm careful of the ports as I am the ejection port and the trigger. In clearing malfunctions I grip the slide with my palm along the left side and my fingers over the top, clear of all of the ports, and my thumb pointed to the rear out of the way in case the pistol fires.

I haven't tried night firing... in the dark, but normally even in dim light the flashes haven't been a problem. I actually didn't notice them until I watched someone else shoot my pistol, then I could see them when shooting it myself, but they are only there in the blink of an eye. I've done a lot of videoing my shooting and making stills from the video. With 30 frames per second in the video, the flash is usually contained within one frame.

Wynn:)

[Barth]

I don't notice any additional flash whatsoever at the range.

Seems like some folks have used still photography and high speed film, in the dark, to highlight the flash.
Usually a comparable picture of an un-ported gun firing as well is not included.

[tv_racin_fan]

Take your ported gun and hold it at your waist, now rotate it outwards about 45 degrees, issue solved. Practice, practice, practice.

A ported handgun might not be a good idea to shoot while still in your pocket...

Actually, a guy on another forum I know of did shoot a ported hangun from the hip. He suffered a burn and I believe he still has some burned powder particles embedded.

[tv_racin_fan]

I don't notice any additional flash whatsoever at the range.

Seems like some folks have used still photography and high speed film, in the dark, to highlight the flash.
Usually a comparable picture of an un-ported gun firing as well is not included.

The amount of flash should be roughly the same, the location and direction of travel of said flash however will be different.