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Carito
05-20-2012, 10:02 AM
Hello. Hope I am in the right place. Just bought this CM9 yesterday after reading so many positive reviews. Was hoping to replace my px4 storm with this as its half the weight and easier to carry in the summer.
I took it to the range yesterday and ran about 100 rounds through it always loading 6 rounds. Not sure what "nose diving" means and I read over this article but am not sure which section applies to my issue.
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1612
Shooting Winchester 115gr FMJ target rounds like you can get at the big box stores. No I havent tried any other rounds.
Out of 100 rounds I would say 12-15 rounds stuck on the third shot. When I look at the gun it looks to me like the back rim of the round is stuck under the slide??? If I grab the slide and just slightly pull it back it pops the round into chamber.I dont even have to pull hard.
Can someone tell me about this? In the above article is there something that applies to this that I can do to remedy it? I realize there is a 200 round break in. I guess I can wait, but I've never had a gun that had a +10% issue like this.
Aside from that it shoots great and is pretty accurate.
jocko
05-20-2012, 10:46 AM
ok, here is whqt u need to do. go to the kahr tech section and hit on the propper prepping thread and it discusses what possably could be ur issues. the 3rd round things kinda tells me the magaziner follower is getting stuck just a tad by the mag release button and then not producting that round up at the right angle and speed either.
It is an easy fix and an easy "check" to. the gun can't count so there is something with in the magazine every time causing this to happen on the 2/3rd round sequence..
PYROhafe
05-20-2012, 10:53 AM
+1 to what jocko said (almost always true when hes being helpful) It should be an easy check and fix!
Congrats on the cm9! great lil gun :D
Carito
05-20-2012, 11:54 AM
Thanks for the posts. I did briefly look over that thread. Its 21 pages. Kinda got lost. Guessing you are referring to doing this :
<MAGAZINE FIX: some have reported that their 2nd or 3rd round tends to nose dive in their kahrs. Here is what is happeing, as the magazine follower is moving upward when it hits that area where about round 2 or 3 is still in the magazine, that follower is now in that magazine slot hole where the magazine button locks into it. That magazine button is actually stopping that follower from sliding past it without any hindrance. Now I can tell you the fix but if you will just go to the sticky by GB6491 on CW fixes, and scroll down, u will see in with a great photo tutorial how to fix this issues. It is a peace of cake. A quick test to see if u have this issue, is unload the magazine, take the floor plate off the magazine and pull the spring and follower out of the magazine. Now insert the empty magazine in the gun until it locks in place. Now with the spring still under the follower insert it slowly in the magazine upward and feel for a stoppage before the follower gets to the top of the magazine. If u feel stoppage, then go to GB 6491 sticky and see how easy this fix is. OR pull the follower out and sand the right side of the follower back alittle where it comes into view in that magazine slot opening, smooth it with 600+ grit paper and retest, It will not take much to get clearance.. I would even recommend one to pre-test this out before going to the range. will take 5 minutes to test out. Get ur gun prepped right and all the little tid bits of information that this forum can supply before that first range trip and it will be a big success... This magazine fix is usually the culprit in 90% of all NOSEDIVE ISSUES.
I hope this will get your P380 and any other Polymer kahr, back into action and stop those early slide locks. >
jocko
05-20-2012, 12:13 PM
yes,
PM sent:
Tinman507
05-20-2012, 12:23 PM
I solved this problem by numbering the rounds.
This way there's no 3rd round.
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/9mm.jpg
jocko
05-20-2012, 12:26 PM
now why did I not think of that. u solved the issue. I will put that in my propper prpepping thread. Ur a genius Tinman
Carito
05-20-2012, 12:37 PM
Thanks jocko. I will look over that thread and see if I can get that fixed.Yeah and that was pretty funny there tinman. I'll have to try leaving out that third round next time. lol
jocko
05-20-2012, 01:06 PM
TRUST ME cARITO: tinman IS AN IDIOT: jUST SAYIN!!
Tinman507
05-20-2012, 02:25 PM
http://jeffsaddmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/idiot-picture.jpg
jocko
05-20-2012, 02:30 PM
u pass every time, stop wasting ur money!! Just sayin.
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