ccw at work?

[losg]

Hi all, I was just wondering what others do. A lot of jobs make you sign a paper that says you read their policy and agree to it. A lot of jobs I've had, which is more than I can load in my CW9, say you can't bring weapons to the workplace. I know that at least in Florida it in not illegal to do it anyway, but you can get fired over it. Luckily, at this time I don't work for Corporate America and I can bring my gun to work with no problems and my boss has a J-Frame stashed as a BUG to his EDC for work. But, I only work weekends, and I'm looking for a second job. I was just wondering if you guys carry anyway or tuck it in the truck? And has anyone here had issues with it? losg

[Bawanna]

Oh yeah, very recently, there was a thread but I was advised to delete it in case of office spies.

My recommendation? Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies. I just decided this this morning. A job is not worth running around like a nekkid sheep in a world full of wolves. I know this cause I work for a police dept. We specialize in wolves.

Being a civilian office puke the don't feel I'm entitled to be prepared for bad things.

[watson]

My recommendation? Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.

Very well said Bawanna :D


--Losg, I used to carry at a job when I lived in Florida and I shared the same concerns. Keep in mind there are other non firearm steps you can take if you are not comfortable pushing that envolope so to speak. I guess it comes down to personal preference which is why I'm not going to tell you one way or the other what to do. I can only say what I did, I decided that I would rather face disiplinary action then risk not coming home one night. I carryed it in my care never brought it into the building and like the saying goes...... out of sight..... out of mind. No one asked so I diddn't tell ;)

[jocko]

just remember UR JOB IS ON THE LINE don't ask , don't tell goes a long way for ccw that is 4 sure but again UR JOB IS ON THE LINE, disciplinary action in most cases is not even in their program. If they say no weapons, u have then been forwarned. as mucvh as I believe n the right to carry, I also believe it the employers right to mandate what goes on in his business place. U may not agree that is fine but again UR JOB IS ON THE LINE.

[Bawanna]

I console myself with the fact that I was looking for a job when I found this one, I expect I'll be looking for a job when I find the next one.

I'd agree more in the private sector but in my setting where bad things can happen between the building door and the car things are different.

I guess I'd just like to see a little common sense applied but that's not gonna happen here, too one sided. All on my side.

[jocko]

common sense,u mean people actually do that sometimes?? Just sayin

[Bill K]

I did. PM sent.

[Infidel proud]

I have gone back and forth about this in my own mind over the past 5 years or so. Ever since I started a job in a "gun free" work place. I first decided not to carry, then decided I would carry. Now I leave the piece in the truck and carry other tools in the office. These include, a cold steel spartan (wicked blade), a can of OC spray, a flashlight, and a defensive pen...luckily, I am changing jobs in two weeks to a must carry position...can't wait

[MERCTECH]

I guess im lucky because I have never had to worry about it. I carry to work everyday, my boss is all for it.

[yqtszhj]

not gonna answer this one.

Who said something about common sense? Where I work they think that if overtime is too high because we are behind on work it cost us too much, so they then layoff people to save money since overtime is too high. What cha think about that one? :der:

[pineappleshooter]

I find a Ruger LCP or Kel Tec P3at in a back pocket holster is totally unspottable. I value my job but I value my life more. As long as your job doesn't make you go through a metal detector to get into the office - out of sight - out of mind.

[losg]

Bawanna - It's sad that even in the police department there are that have and that have nots when it comes to rights. I think your stance is appealing because of it. But, I'm not going to go on a tyraid about needing a bomb shelter in rural WV with arsenal of guns/ammo and food/water, because the 1% that owns the government is out to get us. Promise I won't. But, one thing...what make it less safe at a police station than a convenience store? Generally both have cops around somewhere when there are donuts and coffee involved. ;-)

Watson- I do have a pair of good running shoes, and I got some mace for Christmas last year. I think the running shoes are more helpful than the mace though, I would prefer bear spray, but I can't complain.

Jocko- common sense? what's that? Probably code for leprechaun. I do see your point about companies having rights too. I just wonder there motives. No guns policies haven't helped schools and it won't help me when shtf. Me no gun, BG with gun...seems Lose-Win. Unless, I start taking advise from the movies or video games. :)

[Bawanna]

Bawanna - It's sad that even in the police department there are that have and that have nots when it comes to rights. I think your stance is appealing because of it. But, I'm not going to go on a tyraid about needing a bomb shelter in rural WV with arsenal of guns/ammo and food/water, because the 1% that owns the government is out to get us. Promise I won't. But, one thing...what make it less safe at a police station than a convenience store? Generally both have cops around somewhere when there are donuts and coffee involved. ;-)

Watson- I do have a pair of good running shoes, and I got some mace for Christmas last year. I think the running shoes are more helpful than the mace though, I would prefer bear spray, but I can't complain.

Jocko- common sense? what's that? Probably code for leprechaun. I do see your point about companies having rights too. I just wonder there motives. No guns policies haven't helped schools and it won't help me when shtf. Me no gun, BG with gun...seems Lose-Win. Unless, I start taking advise from the movies or video games. :)

Actually its funny. I'm the only real coffee drinker, have to go next door to get it, no pot in the PD.
Most turn up their nose at donuts too. Maybe it's just a weird dept.

As far as convenience store PD comparison, higher density of BG's. At the PD it's good guys and pretty much bad guys and the bad guys usually ain't happy. Not because of me but I'd easily be collateral damage.
At a convenience store there's mostly good folks and Jocko and only an occasional BG that wants to do harm.

[mr surveyor]

I carry a .357 mag every day to work, sometimes even more, and have a pretty complete arsenal in my office as well.... screw the management......

....wait.... I am the management:D

self employment really sux at times... just not often:)

surv

[losg]

I find a Ruger LCP or Kel Tec P3at in a back pocket holster is totally unspottable. I value my job but I value my life more. As long as your job doesn't make you go through a metal detector to get into the office - out of sight - out of mind.

Ding Ding Ding...I think I found a winner, an excuse to get another gun. I haven't seen any guns that small to rent though, and I would worry about recoil and my accuracy with a gun I can't get my whole hand on. I like the grip on mine and fact that it sticks out IWB, because it's easy to retrieve. Of course, it's the pros and cons of more conceal ability.

[josp]

I feel for you. Both jobs I have I must carry. PD ( but we don't allow the civies like Bawana to carry, don't know why either), and gun store / range, where even the hot blonde chic is packing heat.
And we love coffee. Bawana, stop in sometime, I'll buy.
Remember, it's their job and it's your life.

[jocko]

but u guys are all right in ur thoughts but again like our first amendment rightrs, we have none on this forum as u well know. We are guests here, no more, no less, A gun in my business or in a school u may think u have that 2nd amendment right but again it is not ur place. It is what it is, u have to make ur own decision if u want to go against policy and risk your job in able to feel safe to maybe thwart a SHTFsituation that statistics would show are 99.995% never gonna happen either. Just saying. Not trying to argue here, as I carry alot of places where I am not supposed to, but at best they will escort me out of the building, as I am now retired, so fokk um.

I think most of u gun owners will admit that you have been around quite a few adults who are 100% legal to carry but that you would not feel comfortable with them carrying either. I know I have!! Just sayin

[Planedude]

My job is on a "Federal Reservation" planted on the edge of a large Texas city. Texas recently passed a common sence law that forbid Texas employers from taking disiplinary action aginst employees that had their CHL and kept their handgun locked in their personel car/truck on the company parking lot, during work hours. The ideal is that you have the right to protect yourself during the commute to/from your workplace.
My employer say, their Federal reserve ain't Texas and ANY weapon or ammo, on said reserve, is instant termanation. This is suppose to include bows and arrows, spears, numchucks and peppersprays if I understand right. (what about forks, spoons, our huge toolboxes full of hammers, knifes... crowbars too and what about all the golfclubs? Hummmmmm):rolleyes:
We are currently "frying bigger fish" with my company right now, but there is a quiet disscussion about getting members of congress to pass something to just bring us inline with Texas state law. Belive me when I say, nothing the company is doing would stop an armed person from walking into our jobsite and doing harm.
Their postion on CHL's having their firearms locked in their personel cars is all about percived LIABILITY to the corporation should anything bad happen.
I have no need or desire to carry while working inside the building, but I don't belive that legally stored firearms, locked in a car, fifty yards beyond a security checkpoint and owned by a citizen that has a vetted Nation security clearance offers any real harm to the corporations bottom line. While my commute is short and safe (just 6.1 miles) some of my coworkers travel 100 miles or more a day on their commute (Texas is really big). To strip those folks of their rights under state law is just wrong.
But my company never did worry about doing their "commoner" employees wrong, just as long as the executives are safe, comfortable and very well paid.
This will always be an issue at work places as long as there is a lawyer that will whisper into the companies ear, "here's over what/and how I'd sue you..."
...and the existence of jurys that buy into that "laws and rules = compleatly safe" sillyness.

Peace out!

[watson]

--- Losg

The running shoes and mace are not bad but also the two things I am never without are a good tactical pocket knife and a good defensive flashlight. These are things that are still sommonly carried today that do not arouse suspicion. The knife I of course can't take on a plane but I have carried my surefire e2d LED defender through Sky ***** errr I mean TSA :D without so much as a second look. People really underestimate the advandage of a good tactical light for defense. 1. if your going to be carrying you should have one because most attacks happen at night and you need to be able to identify your target. and 2. Most attacks.............happen at night :P.............. and often just shining somone in the eyes with 200 lumens will make them re think their decision.

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[Obiwan]

Isn't that why they invented Smart Carry/Thunderwear?:cool:

[JFootin]

Isn't that why they invented Smart Carry/Thunderwear?:cool:

There ya go! :D A little 380 like my Taurus 738 TCP in a SmartCarry will hide perfectly in anything but very tight jeans. You can slide it to the left for #1, up on your belly for #2. And don't ever let anyone know that you are carrying.

[Bawanna]

I feel for you. Both jobs I have I must carry. PD ( but we don't allow the civies like Bawana to carry, don't know why either), and gun store / range, where even the hot blonde chic is packing heat.
And we love coffee. Bawana, stop in sometime, I'll buy.
Remember, it's their job and it's your life.

Is your dept armorer a lowly civie or a commissioned officer?

[getsome]

Bawanna try telling um this:
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of this fine Police Department, You lousy corksuckers...You have violated my farging 2nd adamendament rights...Dis sumanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties and rights of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of lousy fargin sum of a bastage motor fargin iceholes like yourselves....

That ought to do it one way or another!!!...Whata you think...:cool:

[Bawanna]

Bawanna try telling um this:
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of this fine Police Department, You lousy corksuckers...You have violated my farging 2nd admendment rights...Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties and rights of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of lousy fargin sum of a bastage motor fargin iceholes like yourselves....

That ought to do it one way or another!!!...Whata you think...:cool:

Sometimes you just kill me getsome. You know me well enough to know that I'm gonna type that word for word in a memo and send it through.
I might get with the IT folks and see if they can make that message pop up every time any dept computer is turned on.

I did that when my best friend and old chief was run out of town. Log in and her picture would pop up for a split second. They were clueless.

[MO_Soldier]

I work in a hospital, a place where every citizen has the right to be, bad or good.
We have operated on people that must be handcuffed to the operating room bed, and have an armed escort.
I obviously don't desire to carry while I'm in scrubs, that'd be terribly uncomfortable, not to mention unnecessary. The OR's are located in the bowels of the hospital. I would like to gabber it walking in and out of the building though...
Out of sight out of mind doesn't work when you have to take your clothes off in a locker room with coworkers around.

FYI - in Missouri there is a list of outlawed places to carry a firearm that includes hospitals. However, Missouri allows CCW holders to carry in 100% of those places without becoming a criminal, but also putting said permit holder at risk of being forced to leave or not allowed to enter.
So my only repercussion to carrying to work in a hospital in Missouri would be instant termination...

I've considered writing to the CEO asking for express pension in writing, as long as I keep it out of sight, and locked in my own private locker.

[getsome]

Wasn't it just last week in Buffalo that Trauma Surgeon Timothy Jorden shot and killed his girlfriend inside the Erie County Medical Center?...Aint no place safe anymore not even your own home, just ask CJB...

It's a difficult decision to make if you do decide to CCW at work and it comes right down to how important is having a good job in todays economy to you and are you willing to risk losing it in order to feel safe?...Sadlly it's a tough choice...:confused:

[jocko]

probably not gonna do a hill of beans good locked in a locker either. I sure would not jeopardize my job to "sneak" carry a gun. Hospitals are paranoid about guns on people, u best be damn in uniform ..

In Indiana is doesn't work that way. It is against the law to carry on school grounds permit or no permit. One can't even have it locked in his car and be legal. not that they would know it but again its ur job on the line. If there is a school function at a city park, then that park falls wirthin the school limits and again no guns are allowed on the grounds during that school event. No gun business with in 1000 feet of school property.. Screwey to be sure expecially the parks and so my knowledge never court tested. I don't want to be the first either.. I have been in alot of restaurant that for sure would not have allowed me in with open carry. in my pocket seems to work for me and again if they caught it somehow the best would be "sir u will have to leave". Probalby a hell of alot of PM and cm right now riding in peoples front pockets sitting at a nice restaurant...

don't ask don't tell..

[Bawanna]

Hospitals, schools and public arena's and such don't even slow me down. Don't give it a thought. They even had people checking bags at my sons graduation, I didn't even hear the guy but wife said he asked if I had a knife in my pocket. I just rolled right past him. Didn't have a knife in my pocket, it was on my belt, Cbob at 3 and PM45 on the ankle, what are they worried about?

Dirt bags need hospitals too and being there doesn't make them not dirt bags.

I'm working on a way to mount my mares leg on my chair, concealed of course.

You can hide a lot on a chair.

[jocko]

must not be a state law in ur state.. Maybe u would look at it a different way if it was a criminal charge. Just sayin...

[jocko]

must not be a state law in ur state.. Maybe u would look at it a different way if it was a criminal charge. Just sayin...

yup about the chair, I see on Dr. Phil tonight a 700 pound woman, now she could hide the entire chair..

[Bawanna]

must not be a state law in ur state.. Maybe u would look at it a different way if it was a criminal charge. Just sayin...

Oh it's the law alright, just a stupid law and I tend to ignore stupid whenever I encounter it.

You know me I'm just a rabble rouser and a trouble maker, if I had legs I'd no doubt ride a Harley and make rude hand gestures to folks riding Honders!

Why just this last weekend I wore a sleeveless t shirt, cut the sleeves off with my knife. Felt like a gosh darn outlaw, might do it again this weekend too.

[Bawanna]

Bawanna try telling um this:
I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of this fine Police Department, You lousy corksuckers...You have violated my farging 2nd adamendament rights...Dis sumanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties and rights of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of lousy fargin sum of a bastage motor fargin iceholes like yourselves....

That ought to do it one way or another!!!...Whata you think...:cool:

Wow, got a quick response to this one, same day even. Chief hand wrote at the bottom these few words. "Don't listen to Jocko!" :eek: What the heck is with that?

He must be more popular than Olivia Newton John..............................

[Tinman507]

Your Chief is apparently a little wiser than he actually appears.

[MO_Soldier]

You're right Jocko, it isn't a state law here. I'm not well versed in other states' laws, but Missouri's are FANTASTIC!!

[josp]

Is your dept armorer a lowly civie or a commissioned officer?

He is about 300 miles away, but a full Trooper like myself. I'm one of a handfull of regional instructors.

[Jaguar]

My company policy is “no weapons”. There are “ghost buster” no gun signs on the doors and it is company policy that you will face disciplinary action up to and including termination for a violation. I’m sure they mean you will be fired, just in nicer words. However, this is Texas and unless they have the 30.06 sign posted (which they don’t) anyone not an employee can walk in the front door carrying concealed with a CHL. Also, the front door is open all day long, so pretty much anyone can walk in. In ’09 we had a few big layoffs, and although it was against policy, I may or may not have kept my P40 in my car. They never looked, so I never had one. Since then, Texas has made it against the law to discipline an employee for keeping a firearm in their vehicle, CHL or not.

One of my coworkers is also a member of the same range as I am, and is a big 2nd amendment type, went to HR about the discrepancy between the policy and state law, both parking lot law and the fact we are disarmed but private persons with a CHL can carry in the buildings. It seems to have fallen on deaf ears, no action in the employee handbook or better security on the front door.

Myself, I value my job. I have a good one and don’t want to go looking in this economy for another, so I will keep it in my car. A bad guy would have to make it through a lot of people before getting to me at the back of the building, and my car is out back as well so I would just go get it and hopefully have the balls to go to the aid of my friends and coworkers. Nope, not going to risk my family’s income on a .002% chance of needing a firearm where I work. YMMV

[yqtszhj]

When they give you crap at work, just remember that there is no kill switch on AWESOME!!!

[Bawanna]

When they give you crap at work, just remember that there is no kill switch on AWESOME!!!

I have that very strip posted on my wall or I did until yesterday when I stripped my walls. Next rung in the ladder didn't like my sticky label on my photo ticket bin being labeled "Fund Raising".

So I took down all pictures and everything personal or pleasure related.
A ton of stuff. So far nobody has even noticed....................

The saga continues.

[yqtszhj]

I have that very strip posted on my wall or I did until yesterday when I stripped my walls. Next rung in the ladder didn't like my sticky label on my photo ticket bin being labeled "Fund Raising".

So I took down all pictures and everything personal or pleasure related.
A ton of stuff. So far nobody has even noticed....................

The saga continues.

Real morale boosters, huh.

I'm the only manager for my department within 70 miles. I haven't seen my boss in well over a year. That fit's me just fine... I have no help down here so best they can do is leave me alone and not make me mad.

Hang in there. They won't last long.

[Bawanna]

Real morale boosters, huh.

I'm the only manager for my department within 70 miles. I haven't seen my boss in well over a year. That fit's me just fine... I have no help down here so best they can do is leave me alone and not make me mad.

Hang in there. They won't last long.

Yeah, I don't have much give up in me. One thing I've learned here is in my next life I'm not gonna start at the bottom and work up, I'm gonna start at the top and work down. Gravity is your friend.
The program here seems to be rather than dazzle with brilliance, you baffle with BS. I find myself completely baffled around here about 97.7 % of the time.

[yqtszhj]

The program here seems to be rather than dazzle with brilliance, you baffle with BS.

I can really relate to that.

I was on a conference call with about 10 people one time when they were trying to roll out this big efficiency improvement plan. My group was doing really well (and still is) and my bosses boss hoped to use me as an example of how well the plan could do so he asked my opinion. Well, I thought about it for a second and thought to myself, he asked me so I'm going to tell them all I'm not doing it and what I really think about it. :32:

After I said my part there was complete silence. Then the bosses boss said "wow, nothing like brutal honesty." Since that time they have never asked my opinion again.:p

After that, during the next meeting everyone had to sit through a 1 1/2 hour lecture on why we were doing the new plan. Fortunately I was on vacation at the time and missed it all. I apologized to my peers for causing them to have to sit through the big show.:rolleyes:

[losg]

After hearing all this, I think I'll revisit my question when I find a job that is really worth keeping and not just a tiny check to get me from here to next week at little easier. I've learned real well after being laid off in 2010 how to do okay and be pretty broke while looking for the next thing. 'Til then I'll risk it. But, the day I start my own business is they day I start open carrying. :)

[yqtszhj]

But, the day I start my own business is they day I start open carrying. :)

Now that's the idea there :third:

[Tinman507]

I have my own business and carry every day. Today I had to take it off and leave it in my truck. Was in an elementary school measuring for a job. That's a serious no no here in PA. Aside from that it's with me all day long in many different environments.

[losg]

Yeah, I was talking to my friend yesterday about how she should carry...she was like..."In a school zone?" I forgot, she is an elementary school teacher. That is a big no no here too. My goal is to open up a convenience store in WV, which is an open carry state anyway. Just not hunting rifles in cars surprisingly. All those forested mountains an all, you'd think there'd be a gun rack in every truck. Nope.
I have my own business and carry every day. Today I had to take it off and leave it in my truck. Was in an elementary school measuring for a job. That's a serious no no here in PA. Aside from that it's with me all day long in many different environments.

[Bawanna]

Yeah, I was talking to my friend yesterday about how she should carry...she was like..."In a school zone?" I forgot, she is an elementary school teacher. That is a big no no here too. My goal is to open up a convenience store in WV, which is an open carry state anyway. Just not hunting rifles in cars surprisingly. All those forested mountains an all, you'd think there'd be a gun rack in every truck. Nope.

If I was a lady school teacher I'd have one of those Flash Bang over the shoulder boulder holder holsters especially in a school zone.
I'm thinking about getting an operation so I could try one myself, also might be good for whats left of my career, more opportunity for advancement in the office puke department. Sort of a wound two birds with one stone kind of thing.

Watched Crododile Dundee the other night, maybe I'll call myself Sheila?

[Tinman507]

Surely you jest.

I told you never to call me Shirley :eek:

[getsome]

Is it hot in here or am I just having a hot flash?

[Tinman507]

Striker, listen, and you listen close: flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

[getsome]

Joey, Do you like movies about gladiators?...:D

[Bawanna]

Is it hot in here or am I just having a hot flash?

Naw, probably guilt on account of Chief thinks your Jocko. Are you two related.

I will take that as a vote in favor of the operation though.

Can't wait to shop the Victoria Secret catalog.

PS: Hope they make a Flash Bang for my Cbob.

[getsome]

You little vixen!

[Tinman507]

looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

[KosherNRA]

Texas passed a law last September stating it is now illegal for you to fired for carrying at work, and can no longer put those terms in code of conduct, etc.

So now I pocket carry my cm9 daily :)

[Planedude]

Texas passed a law last September stating it is now illegal for you to fired for carrying at work, and can no longer put those terms in code of conduct, etc.

So now I pocket carry my cm9 daily :)


I belive the new law alows you to store your CHL firearm in your locked car while it is parked in the employers parking lot. This is to alow you to protect yourself during your commute to/from work. If the rules of your jobsite say "no Guns" then you are not protected carrying there under Texas law.

Be sure, before its an issue for you.

[jocko]

Planedued.Indiana has the same law,OK in ur vehicle on thieir pacrking lot but definitely not allowed in the job site.

[Barth]

I belive the new law alows you to store your CHL firearm in your locked car while it is parked in the employers parking lot. This is to alow you to protect yourself during your commute to/from work. If the rules of your jobsite say "no Guns" then you are not protected carrying there under Texas law.

Be sure, before its an issue for you.

That's exactly how a like law in Florida is written.
Gun control freaks called it the "Bring your gun to work law"
trying to upset folks and exaggerate its intent and limits.
You still can't go into the workplace armed.

[2aforall]

I use the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy on this issue.

[muggsy]

Hi all, I was just wondering what others do. A lot of jobs make you sign a paper that says you read their policy and agree to it. A lot of jobs I've had, which is more than I can load in my CW9, say you can't bring weapons to the workplace. I know that at least in Florida it in not illegal to do it anyway, but you can get fired over it. Luckily, at this time I don't work for Corporate America and I can bring my gun to work with no problems and my boss has a J-Frame stashed as a BUG to his EDC for work. But, I only work weekends, and I'm looking for a second job. I was just wondering if you guys carry anyway or tuck it in the truck? And has anyone here had issues with it? losg

This has always been my philosophy. My job isn't my life. My job is just something that I do to have a life. I value my life far more than I value my job. You have to decide for yourself which you value the most. Like Bawanna said, I was looking for a job when I found the job I have. I'm sure that I can find another. There are a lot of people looking for a job, but not too damn many looking for work. That my friend makes all of the difference in the world.

[southsound]

Owner of my LGS told me that he went to the school where his mom works in the office to take her to lunch. Since he always carries he had his weapon in an OWB holster on his belt. Laws here prevent carrying on school property so before entering the office he took the time to remove his holster and put his weapon in a locked compartment in his vehicle. When he entered the office to pick up his mom, a lady screamed, "That's HIM. That's the guy I saw."

Now being as he had only been in the office for a few seconds, he could not figure out what she was talking about. The lady continued, "That's the guy who was playing with himself while looking at the kids."

It took him just a few tense minutes to explain that he owned a gun shop and always carried a weapon. What she saw was him taking his holster off his belt so he would not be carrying in the school.

Now he carries his weapon in a paddle holster. Guess there are some situations you just can't predict. I met his mom recently when I picked up my CM9. Gave me a free box of Gold Dots because of a delay in my order. Nice lady.

[jocko]

In Indiana, it would still be a violation to even have the gun locked in his car on school property.

[7shot]

I belive the new law alows you to store your CHL firearm in your locked car while it is parked in the employers parking lot. This is to alow you to protect yourself during your commute to/from work. If the rules of your jobsite say "no Guns" then you are not protected carrying there under Texas law.

Be sure, before its an issue for you.

This is exactlly what the new law states...you cannot get fired from your job for locking your firearm in your car while at work!

[MO_Soldier]

In Missouri, we could legally carry onto school property, facing only removal from the property unless one gets belligerent.

[DKD]

I used to work for company who's personnel department knew I was a gun advocate and tried to tell me I couldn't have a firearm on their property. I simply informed the HR depat. head that was BS as my locked vehicle in the State of Florida was considered an extension of my home. They quitly dropped the issue.
As for my wife, she works for a local school board. Now one must understand that there are no students at this facility nor is it a school building. They at the school board just extended that policy to include any property of the school board. I would like to try that one in court one day....are you saying that you would deny my personal civil rights...garranteed under the Constitution? Should an incident occure at her place of work I would sue their pants off since she had no way to defend herself against any would be law breaker due to their no weapons ban at said fascility even locke up in the car. That means from sun up to sunset she has way to protect herself due to their ridiculous policy & over reach position. This just torques my cookies.

[jocko]

DKD. they probably would win on that schol board thing, ,makes no sense, but in Indiana if the school holds a function at the city park, that park is now off limits at that time to any person with a gun on them or in their car, Doesn't matter if they know the law or not, it is at that time considered school property. Makes no sense, and to my knowledge never seen a court case with it either but in the Indiana carry manual it so states this scenario.. Can't have a gun shop within 1000 feet of scvhool property. I always sondered if whenI do my normal walk up town and back that I do walk right by the school property only on public sidewalk and I am always armed, and I would be I would be in violtion of having a gun within 1000 feet of a school zone. I have never askedabout it..

[DKD]

Our subdivision is within 1,000 feet of an elementary school. Our homes were there first what are going to do strip us of our rights...?
as far as I am concerned they all can go and choke on polished cotton and go bite my shorts!
It always seem that when government gets envolved they Fok up everything they touch. Common sense is not so common any more and thats for sure and for certain.

[jocko]

NO doubt that would hve to be OK. i might be wrong n that 1000 ft thingto. I think it make sit illegalfor a guns op tobe within 1000 feet of a school, not actual ownership,. sorry about that.

I would have no idea if u had a gun business and then they built a school across the street, not sure how the law would read on that. I would wantt o think u would be grandfathered in.. but again that would be common sense and as u stated common sense has nothing to do with anything-- sometimes.

[Bawanna]

Our subdivision is within 1,000 feet of an elementary school. Our homes were there first what are going to do strip us of our rights...?
as far as I am concerned they all can go and choke on polished cotton and go bite my shorts!
It always seem that when government gets envolved they Fok up everything they touch. Common sense is not so common any more and thats for sure and for certain.

Heck yeah!

[pawpaw]

no, i don't. it's just not worth losing my job over.

[Bawanna]

Shhhhsh, a few months ago after carrying into the PD everyday for 17 years I was told no more, no can do.

Well I went about 3 weeks nekkid and then I saw a bright light one morning getting ready for work and without thought strapped the PM45 back in it's rightful spot. Been there ever since.
I leave the 1911 in the van as instructed which I absolutely hate but it's the best I can do.

Figure with that and a dept Glock in a safe on my desk (armorers weapon) I should be ok.

To me it was just the opposite, the job wasn't that important to me anymore.

Don't rat me out.

[97harley]

I guess I"m luck, I'm self employed so unless I'm traveling into bordering states I always carry. We border NY and MA, one of the two worst states to get a ccp

[headshrink]

Hi all, I was just wondering what others do. A lot of jobs make you sign a paper that says you read their policy and agree to it. A lot of jobs I've had, which is more than I can load in my CW9, say you can't bring weapons to the workplace. I know that at least in Florida it in not illegal to do it anyway, but you can get fired over it. Luckily, at this time I don't work for Corporate America and I can bring my gun to work with no problems and my boss has a J-Frame stashed as a BUG to his EDC for work. But, I only work weekends, and I'm looking for a second job. I was just wondering if you guys carry anyway or tuck it in the truck? And has anyone here had issues with it? losg

I sure do.... I also own the business. I do, however, work in a field that is ignorant about guns, but I don't really have to deal with this on a practicle level.

IF I did work for someone else, violated their employment policy, and got fired, they are legally in the right.

I have also been told that my local sherriff will not renew CCWs for anyone caught violating 'no gun' signs on businesses/private property. I think this is even on his webpage currently.

[muggsy]

I've often said that I wouldn't work for any company that's dumb enough to hire me. :)

[Bawanna]

Me in the wife got into the Reno Rodeo tonight. Security every where. Made her take the camera to the car, looked in her purse, didn't notice the 638.

Didn't check my front or rear bag nor my person. They never check me for some reason which is nice. I'm not complainin.

[jocko]

camera's are dangerous u outta know that. He probalby thought that handgun was a 45 so no big deal there..Just sayin

[MikeyKahr]

Security probably figured she needed that 638 with your type around her.

[ltxi]

Security probably figured she needed that 638 with your type around her.

good one....

[b4uqzme]

I drive a company car so I cannot even leave it in the trunk --- and. even if it was my own car, per the policy, I cannot park in the company parking lot... it's a national company so I have no idea which state's rules apply. Probably whichever has them in the right.

I'm not answerin' just sayin'

[Gray_Rider]

Owner of my LGS told me that he went to the school where his mom works in the office to take her to lunch. Since he always carries he had his weapon in an OWB holster on his belt. Laws here prevent carrying on school property so before entering the office he took the time to remove his holster and put his weapon in a locked compartment in his vehicle. When he entered the office to pick up his mom, a lady screamed, "That's HIM. That's the guy I saw."

Now being as he had only been in the office for a few seconds, he could not figure out what she was talking about. The lady continued, "That's the guy who was playing with himself while looking at the kids."

It took him just a few tense minutes to explain that he owned a gun shop and always carried a weapon. What she saw was him taking his holster off his belt so he would not be carrying in the school.

Now he carries his weapon in a paddle holster. Guess there are some situations you just can't predict. I met his mom recently when I picked up my CM9. Gave me a free box of Gold Dots because of a delay in my order. Nice lady.

WhoooHooooo! THAT lady must be great fun at parties....I have dealt with a few like her in a past life in my school photography days. "A few tense moments" is probably an understatement with school people. Don't even THINK of even joking about ANYTHING "QUESTIONABLE" around them.
I was once doing yearbook "fill pictures" on campus for a county HS in the back country of W.V. Kids on campus, gag shots of kids "eluding authority" general campus life, and activities during school hrs. Chess Club, football jocks and their girlfriends etc. Fun fill photos.
I noticed the principal walking my way and he stopped to tell me someone had called saying there was "Someone on school grounds photographing the children!" Seems there was a rumor going 'round the little town that Satanists were planning to abduct a child and sacrifice them to the devil.

Yes. Seriously. He knew me and the studio had the contract of course, and made jokes about the satan silliness but SOME PEOPLE in the town (including some of the teachers) took it deadly serious. I got some MAJOR bad vibes from the crowd during the homecoming game a few weeks later, and I split at half time. One LOOOOONG drive up a two lane country road to get back to interstate 79 that night I assure you! And believe it, I wished I had my Colt Government .45 with me. I could have been waylaidand, beaten up, (or worse) very easily, on that road. I still remember the glares I got from some of the crowd that night. I got out of Dodge long before the game ended and people started milling about. I hit 79 30+ miles away just about the time the game ended. School people are often VERY paranoid about kids and anything even remotely looking like predator behaviour. They aren't afraid to make a "federal case" out of it regardless of being proved wrong till a blind man could "see it with his cane".

Gray_Rider
Deo Vindice!

[Gray_Rider]

As a bonded courier, I carried EVERYWHERE. Screw the No Weapons zones. I only wished I carried much, much heavier. I depended on too little gun for the dangerous deliveries of highly sought after product. I would pack my AK or my 12 gage pump along with a major caliber pistol and BUG if I had to do that work today.

These days, I can't carry at work but I am in a dangerous work place that is shall we say a "gun rich" environment as compared to most workplaces.

No. Not worth the manure storm of being caught with a firearm. I would be fired just for starters. Then the REAL storm would get going. Think something vaguely resembling the the Zimmerman trial fiasco as a good example.

No thanks.

Gray_Rider
Deo Vindice!

[dkmatthews]

Wow, G_R... Seems like you've got some great bar stories. Stay safe, man.