I did it finally!

[Haven]

I know for most everyone out there this isn't a big deal. But, for me it has been many years in the making.
I was handed a long gun (I have no idea what kind or size it was.....certainly bigger than a child should probably shoot) when I was a kid . I'm sure they thought it would be funny. It knocked me on my behind and scared the living daylights out of me, so bad that it has taken me many years to finally work up the courage to shoot another long gun.
My Daughter and Son-in-Law said to me enough is enough, took me out back, handed me the AR and walked me through the whole thing. I have to say, they were very patience with me! By the time they had me ready to pull the trigger an hour later, I was sweating and shaking. Didn't help that I'm cross dominate and couldn't see a darn thing, because I kept trying to close my right eye and shoot with my left. Daughter walked over and taped a leaf to my left eye lens.
I finally pulled the trigger! Have to say......wish I hadn't waited so long. They said they'll work me up to bigger ones each week till we get to the 7mm something or another. :eek:

[Tinman507]

Awesome!! Glad you overcame that phobia. Keep shooting!

[Haven]

I had a death grip on that thing. My knuckles were white.

[Frayed Knot]

Good for you. It's also nice to hear the whole family is into the shooting sports.

[PattayaPistol]

Congratulations. Well done. You should be feeling very proud of yourself. Overcoming your fear is never an easy thing. Now enjoy.

Cheers
PP

[espresso]

Congratulations Haven!
I never get tired of overcoming something that's hard or that I'm fearful of.

Watch out.....you may get hooked

[TheTman]

Just don't move up the calibers too fast. And make sure you wear a padded jacket or shooting vest, and that the rifles have good recoil pads and not steel plates, those tend to hurt a bit in the larger calibers, like 30.06 and up. Maybe something like a 30-30 or something on that order should be next. They don't usually have recoil pads, but they're not very hard kickers.

[Bawanna]

That's a pretty cute daughter you got there. Wait, am I going down for saying that? Meant in a totally nice out of the gutter way ya know?

Stay away from the 7mm, that's a hurting gun right there, no use for it anyhow.

06 is all you'd ever need. I'd prefer a 338 over the 7mm or the 300, still belts ya a good one but not quite so hard.

AR's are pretty tame, my wife calls it an elephant gun after shooting it indoors once, it's noisy but no kick.

[Haven]

That's a pretty cute daughter you got there. Wait, am I going down for saying that? Meant in a totally nice out of the gutter way ya know?



Since that's me in the picture.......no harm. And thanks! :rolleyes:


Maybe something like a 30-30 or something on that order should be next.
Yup....They said that's next. Or maybe the 270.

[Bawanna]

Since that's me in the picture.......no harm. And thanks! :rolleyes:


Yup....They said that's next. Or maybe the 270.

Schucks, now I feel like a jocko child porner or something. I guess I figured if you was cross dominant you'd shoot left but I reread the leave over the eye line.

So I amend my earlier post to YOUR cute.


And while I'm still being patient we still have that cyber bride offer on the table.

Now if Jocko comes along requesting pics of the daughter your to pay him no mind, and don't believe him if he says I thunk it up neither.

[Bawanna]

Gotta quick question I've always wondered about. When you ladies tie your hair all up in pretty knots and stuff, how the heck do ya get it untied and not all knotted up. See it sometimes and think wow, gonna be a few hours hetting that straightened out.

I don't got enough hair to experiment with and the Beagle don't neither. Wife does but she isn't willing to be part of my experiment.

[Alfonse]

Get your wife to ride in a convertible for 100 miles or so without putting the hair in a knot or something. It helps if you travel some of that at illegal speeds. Then you can see the untangling process big time.

Congrats Haven on a fear overcome. Try not to be a part of any "experiments" suggested by folks around here (jocko, bawanna). :D Although the suggestions on calibers to shoot and avoid seem to be pretty good advice.

[pineappleshooter]

Haven,

If you are recoil sensitive (I am due to a messed up rotator cuff from playing softball) watch out for the 30-30. I have a Marlin 336 that used to be my Dad's and became mine on my 13th birthday and it will bite you if not snugged up good to your shoulder. I put a slip-on rubber recoil pad on mine since even held properly it makes my shoulder hurt after 3-4 rounds. Have fun and enjoy!

[Tinman507]

Schucks, now I feel like a jocko child porner or something. I guess I figured if you was cross dominant you'd shoot left but I reread the leave over the eye line.

So I amend my earlier post to YOUR cute.


And while I'm still being patient we still have that cyber bride offer on the table.

Now if Jocko comes along requesting pics of the daughter your to pay him no mind, and don't believe him if he says I thunk it up neither.

http://rlv.zcache.com/perv_alert_tshirt-d235401907053089101t50h_210.jpg

[yqtszhj]

Good for you Haven.

My wife's AR is the same type, collapsable stock and 16 inch barrel. She really likes it. She's kinda small (notice I didn't say short) and can adjust the stock to a position that is comfortable for her.

Keep on shooting it and you'll be able to hit a 4 inch target at 100 yards easy.

[Haven]

Congratulations Haven!
I never get tired of overcoming something that's hard or that I'm fearful of.

It is a wonderful feeling after facing a fear.
Few years back I faced my fear of heights. Went on a zip-line that was over around 500ft in the air, off a cliff, over the ocean. Yes, I did it. Would I ever do it again....NOT in this life time!

Maybe I'll attempt to over come my fear of insects next.....lol...Jeesh, I didn't realize that I have so many fears till writing this.

[Haven]

Gotta quick question I've always wondered about. When you ladies tie your hair all up in pretty knots and stuff, how the heck do ya get it untied and not all knotted up. See it sometimes and think wow, gonna be a few hours hetting that straightened out.

OK......Bawanana .....pay attention.

Grab hair into a ponytail like fashion in back of head, twist in upwards motion, clip.
To undo, clasp clip open. Hair falls out. Voila!

This was definitely not a fancy hair updo.


Now if your talking going to a wedding type hair do. Then it's pay a hair stylist to torture you for an hour or two pulling, twisting, spraying and using 500 hair pins.
To undo, pull hair pins out of hair for 2 hours. Then try to brush all snarls out from shellacked, hair sprayed mess for the next hour.

[Haven]

Thank you everyone for all the great suggestions and words of wisdom. This place is great!

[Tinman507]

It is a wonderful feeling after facing a fear.
Few years back I faced my fear of heights. Went on a zip-line that was over around 500ft in the air, off a cliff, over the ocean. Yes, I did it. Would I ever do it again....NOT in this life time!

Maybe I'll attempt to over come my fear of insects next.....lol...Jeesh, I didn't realize that I have so many fears till writing this.

Was that by chance in Labadee Haiti? We did that one too

[Haven]

YES it was!!

[dkmatthews]

Haven and Tinman, both from the northeast, both vacationing in Haiti... Hmm... :D

[Bawanna]

Haven and Tinman, both from the northeast, both vacationing in Haiti... Hmm... :D

Does make one wonder...........


Haiti, that's down there by Tallahassee ain't it?

[Bawanna]

OK......Bawanana .....pay attention.

Grab hair into a ponytail like fashion in back of head, twist in upwards motion, clip.
To undo, clasp clip open. Hair falls out. Voila!

This was definitely not a fancy hair updo.


Now if your talking going to a wedding type hair do. Then it's pay a hair stylist to torture you for an hour or two pulling, twisting, spraying and using 500 hair pins.
To undo, pull hair pins out of hair for 2 hours. Then try to brush all snarls out from shellacked, hair sprayed mess for the next hour.


Your idea is better. We had a woman here, recently departed through no fault of her own that didn't use clips or pins or none of that stuff. She actually tied it, even used her own attached hair to tie like a pony tail but in a knot.
Maybe I better sign up for beauty college, maybe that's my calling.

[DeaconKC]

Congrats to you and your family Haven. Take your time and stick with milder cartridges until YOU are ready to try them. A nice shotgunner's vest will have a recoil pad built in for you and can really help with recoil.

[jocko]

Does make one wonder...........


Haiti, that's down there by Tallahassee ain't it?

get out alitle more great one. any idiot knows Haiti is ther capital of arizona. Geesz:D

[Tinman507]

Your idea is better. We had a woman here, recently departed through no fault of her own that didn't use clips or pins or none of that stuff. She actually tied it, even used her own attached hair to tie like a pony tail but in a knot.
Maybe I better sign up for beauty college, maybe that's my calling.

http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/bawannahairshop.jpg

[Bawanna]

http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o542/tinman507/bawannahairshop.jpg

I think I just had an aha moment. Maybe the beauty college is a bad idea, I'll add it to the very long list of previous bad ideas.

Nice sign though, cept that dude on the right, I don't think I'll do dudes.

Maybe crew cuts only........................................

[TheTman]

Bawanna, I don't think the chick in the sign looks much better than the dude, kinda reminds me of LaToya Jackson or Michael late in his life.

[Bawanna]

I totally agree but I didn't want to push Tinman over the edge and have him curled up in a fetal position on the kitchen floor sucking his thumb so I didn't mention it.

Your OK Tinman, it was a tough paper route, I had one too. I need to get some lotion for my thumb, it's all pruned and cracking even though I'm an ambidextrious thumb sucker.

[jocko]

Bawanna, I don't think the chick in the sign looks much better than the dude, kinda reminds me of LaToya Jackson or Michael late in his life.

be a mug shot of ol jocko in his 1% er days. Just sayin:target::target:

[yqtszhj]

That looks like you go in for a cut and come out a Zombie.

[Haven]

The saga continues....

Daughter came over today with her 270 for me to shoot. I shot it a total of four times....all hits within 1/2inch of the bullseye.....WooHoo for me! (Ok, so what if I was only 25 feet away and it has a darn good scope.....I'm still counting them darn it...lol).

After the fourth shot, I decided I didn't like shooting this nearly as much as the AR. It kinda hurt and now I have a bruise forming. I do bruise easily. So, I should have worn something with a bit more padding like someone reccomended. I think I'll stick with the AR for awhile.

I also don't think it right to keep using my Daughters AR. Soooooo.... I should probably go get myself one. :D

[ruf45]

Sounds like a good reason to buy a AR

[Bawanna]

Do it very quickly while you still can. I'd buy all the ammo and pmags you can afford or get on credit for the same reason.

[Haven]

Do it very quickly while you still can. I'd buy all the ammo and pmags you can afford or get on credit for the same reason.
Why? What's the hurry?

Wait a minute...did someone call my Hubby and spill the beans?

[Haven]

I'm seriously considering a Windham Arms.

[itsthelaw]

New laws and a global treaty to make gun control easier...

Let me know what you decide on, because I agree that it might be time to load up on what might be considered an unnecessary firearm.

It is all bad.

[Bawanna]

There's a lame duck session coming up in November and who knows what the King will dream up. Ammo and guns will skyrocket in price in preparation for the unknown nightmares he may dream up.

End of politics in this thread.

I don't own an AR, I did for quite awhile, rarely shot it. I am a big fan of staying genuine Colt but I think I might have drank some of their kool aid at their armorer classes.

There's lots of good ones. I call em Mr. Potato Head guns, you can dress em differently for every day of the week with a couple of mid day wardrobe changes to boot.

[Haven]

unnecessary firearm.
No such thing......

[Tinman507]

No such thing......

Ok, just tell me you have a bass boat too and I will be in love and it'll be real this time. :eek:

[Bawanna]

Ok, just tell me you have a bass boat too and I will be in love and it'll be real this time. :eek:

Dang your wicked quick today Tinman, I was just typing that out almost word for word. I was also gonna ask if she cleans fish but that don't really matter depending on the boat.

I do have a pending offer in front of you for what little or lot that may be worth.

[Haven]

Bawanna...Hubby must have drank the same kool aid as you. Said if I wanted one I needed to go with a Colt. When asked why, He couldn't come up with any real good reasons except "Because Colts are better"
Well...That's not a good enough answer for me.

I do agree with your Mr. Potato Head thing. That could be one of the reasons I want one....

[Tinman507]

I will defer to you kind sir. Especially since you gots the magic button in front of you and an 11 foot pole.

http://www.japanprobe.com/july06/nuke/usb_nuke_button_1.jpg

[Haven]

Ok, just tell me you have a bass boat too and I will be in love and it'll be real this time. :eek:
LOL....Nope, sorry no bass boat. But, I do have a pond with Bass. Will that count?

[les strat]

There are a lot of good AR's out there. I bought a Colt because, like Bawanna, when I think of AR, that's what comes to mind. If you just want to plink, there are very affordable DMPS AR's as well as other brands. If you want a doomsday zombie gun, you might want to step it up to something more top tier.

I like an AK too. A LOT.

[Tinman507]

My hopes and dreams are dashed once more :(

[Haven]

I was also gonna ask if she cleans fish
.

NO....I most certainly DO NOT under no circumstance, clean the fish.

[Haven]

There are a lot of good AR's out there. I bought a Colt because, like Bawanna, when I think of AR, that's what comes to mind. If you just want to plink, there are very affordable DMPS AR's as well as other brands. If you want a doomsday zombie gun, you might want to step it up to something more top tier.

I like an AK too. A LOT.

It will most likely be a toss up between a Colt and a Windham. I read up on the "Windham Arms" They seem to be getting good reviews.
Kinda neat how they came to be.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/robert-farago/ex-bushmaster-owner-starts-windham-weaponry/

[Haven]

I like an AK too. A LOT.
I haven't work up the nerve to shoot our AK47 yet.

Someday.....

[MW surveyor]

I've seen really skinny 9 year olds shoot em in Africa.

[Bawanna]

I haven't work up the nerve to shoot our AK47 yet.

Someday.....

One plus to the AK is it shoots real meaningful bullets instead of the miniscule small varmint 223. They are ideal for the spray and pray crowd and I'm sure they hurt and leave a mark but when you want to get serious, a little wider bullet is a good thing.
The recoil is still mild.

If I ever get an AK and I will someday if I have enough days I'll get one with the wood furniture on it. That would make me very very happy.

[ruf45]

There are lot of really good ARs on the market. In my opinion Colts are
over priced. Your paying for the name.

[melissa5]

Check out Daniel Defense. Those babies are made for serious business.

[yqtszhj]

It will most likely be a toss up between a Colt and a Windham. I read up on the "Windham Arms" They seem to be getting good reviews.
Kinda neat how they came to be.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/robert-farago/ex-bushmaster-owner-starts-windham-weaponry/

The Windham is made by the "Original Maine Bushmaster" folks. My first AR was a "Maine made" Bushmaster A3 and the fit and finish was like a Lexus. Everthing was like it was hand fitted.

Got the wife a Bushmaster M4 style (recent NY production not original bushmaster folks) and although it functions well, you can tell not a lot of time was spent hand fitting anything. When you go to take it apart or operate the charging handle it's just not the same.

Bushmaster and DPMS were bought by Freedom group a while back and production was moved to NY.

Just thought I would mention it for what it's worth.

[Haven]

The Windham is made by the "Original Maine Bushmaster" folks. My first AR was a "Maine made" Bushmaster A3 and the fit and finish was like a Lexus. Everthing was like it was hand fitted.

Got the wife a Bushmaster M4 style (recent NY production not original bushmaster folks) and although it functions well, you can tell not a lot of time was spent hand fitting anything. When you go to take it apart or operate the charging handle it's just not the same.

Bushmaster and DPMS were bought by Freedom group a while back and production was moved to NY.

Just thought I would mention it for what it's worth.
Yup, From what I understand Windham Arms is basically the same people that used to make the Bushmaster's.
Bushmasters closed their Maine plant and laid off all their workers. Many with over 25 years experience. So the laid off workers got together and opened Windham Arms. The newer Bushmasters are not made by the same experienced workers they used to have.

Chalk one up for the little guys.

[les strat]

It will most likely be a toss up between a Colt and a Windham. I read up on the "Windham Arms" They seem to be getting good reviews.


Both great choices.


I haven't work up the nerve to shoot our AK47 yet.

Someday.....

Really negligible differences in recoil between an AK and an AR IMO. SLight maybe.


There are lot of really good ARs on the market. In my opinion Colts are
over priced. Your paying for the name.

I respectfully disagree. You can find Colts for $999 that cover every milspec apect for an AR. Their MPI and HPT inspection of every bolt and barrel is as good as it gets (they do not "batch" test). There are brands just as good for the price, but definitley not "better".

This chart (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&single=true&gid=5&output=html)is great for explanation of parts quality and build of certain companies' AR's that you can compare in this other chart (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AqmgMm61Ok7WdExwaG16OENzOEZ1akp2a3Y2NjMxTEE&single=true&gid=2&output=html).

[yqtszhj]

Yup, From what I understand Windham Arms is basically the same people that used to make the Bushmaster's.
Bushmasters closed their Maine plant and laid off all their workers. Many with over 25 years experience. So the laid off workers got together and opened Windham Arms. The newer Bushmasters are not made by the same experienced workers they used to have.

Chalk one up for the little guys.

Yeah, I read that Freedom Group kept the Maine plant open for a few years and then when some contractual time limit was up they laid the experienced gunsmiths off to fill some production availability in NY.

I'm happy for the guy's and gal's in Maine and they will do well I think if they can make through the restart pains. I really wish them well as my first Bushmaster from them is a piece of art. And it shoots sub MOA all the time.

But in the end, hey, I hope freedom group and Windham all run full production and give Americans what they want and need. Long live the 2nd amendment.

[Haven]

Well....This happened much quicker than I thought it would.

My friendly Neighbor (Yes...the one that got me in trouble before) found out I was in the market for one and has graciously agreed to sell me this Windham.......What a guy. He made me promise that my Hubby wouldn't burn down his house. But, since I so cleverly said "Look what I bought for both of us Sweetie" I think we're in the clear. :rolleyes:

Now on to accessorizing..........

[Bawanna]

Damn girl, when you get the notion you don't mess around one little bit do ya? And the neighbor happened to have a Windham (I'd never heard of them till you mentioned them) but of course now want one for myself too.

That's not far from perfect as is. I looked at their website yesterday trying to pick one, for now the numbers with $ signs in front are a prohibitive factor.

I'm so happy for you though. Now get full PMags from here to the horizon and your good to go.

[les strat]

That's a great rifle! Like Bawanna said, buy a bunch of 30-round PMags before election time.

Also I just had a thread on buying an optic for my AR. I think it's in the other weapons section. Good suggestions and pics there.

[melissa5]

That's a great rifle! Like Bawanna said, buy a bunch of 30-round PMags before election time.

Also I just had a thread on buying an optic for my AR. I think it's in the other weapons section. Good suggestions and pics there.

Buy a few 20-round pmags too in case you need to go prone.our

Also, you might want to consider going to an Appleseed shoot. They are really fun and family oriented. They teach you a little history and a lot about how to shoot your rifle from the standing, sitting, and prone positions. http://appleseedusa.org/

[Haven]

Damn girl, when you get the notion you don't mess around one little bit do ya? And the neighbor happened to have a Windham (I'd never heard of them till you mentioned them) but of course now want one for myself too.


No need to mess around when I know what I want. :D

I hadn't heard of this company either. Until this Neighbor bought His AR from them awhile back. They also come with a full owner transferable lifetime warranty.

[Haven]

Buy a few 20-round pmags too in case you need to go prone.our

Also, you might want to consider going to an Appleseed shoot. They are really fun and family oriented. They teach you a little history and a lot about how to shoot your rifle from the standing, sitting, and prone positions. http://appleseedusa.org/
I just looked this up. Had never heard of it. Sounds like it would be fun.

[Haven]

:D
That's a great rifle! Like Bawanna said, buy a bunch of 30-round PMags before election time.

Also I just had a thread on buying an optic for my AR. I think it's in the other weapons section. Good suggestions and pics there.

Yes, I will be buying lots of 30rd mags.

I do need to do a bit more research before I decide what scope I want. Thanks for the heads up on your optics post.

[itsthelaw]

Dropped a gun off today at LGS/gunsmith and spoke to owner about Windham and Bushmaster. This shop is a Bushmaster distributor and the owner gushed about how great Windhams were made. I am now extremely excited for you, but also a bit jealous.