P380 that doesnt go bang... now bang but other issues

[MDH65]

Have an RA# and it will be going to Kahr the end of the week.
Nothing but lite primer hits. Regardless of ammo.

[nikon]

Have you cleaned out the striker channel?

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[kerby9mm]

Have you cleaned out the striker channel?

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Have an RA# and it will be going to Kahr the end of the week.
Nothing but lite primer hits. Regardless of ammo.

If you bought the gun new I agree with you to send it back. I read that Kimber stopped production on the Solo when it was reported enough times with malfunctions. But not Kahr they just keep putting out p380s like yours. Not a responsible marketing decision.

[jocko]

RA# was in the problematic serial number range of guns that gave issues. No doubt ur gun needs to go back to get right. Call kahr and ask for a pick up. They willf ix it right. Light primer strikes is a timing issue and something will need to be changed. My RA went back once and since has been super. If u just boght this gun new, then IMO this gun has been sitting around for a very long time. Kahr has not been in the RA serial numbers for some time..

[MDH65]

RA# was in the problematic serial number range of guns that gave issues. No doubt ur gun needs to go back to get right. Call kahr and ask for a pick up. They willf ix it right. Light primer strikes is a timing issue and something will need to be changed. My RA went back once and since has been super. If u just boght this gun new, then IMO this gun has been sitting around for a very long time. Kahr has not been in the RA serial numbers for some time..


Thats funny and I didnt even notice.

My mention of the RA# refers to having a Return Authorization # from Kahr to send the pistol back for service.
Coincidently, its also the beginning of my serial number, RAxxxx.

Go figure

[MDH65]

Have had intermittant issues with this pistol since we got it and its time to just send it back and let the experts take care of things.

[nmkahrshooter]

I guess the question is why would Kahr keep building the 380? They need to get it right. Seems to me this caliber is problematic for Kahr.

[yqtszhj]

They had big time Frame issues with a certain SN range I believe in the past. They have gotten past most of those I believe and for the most part and after breakin the 380's run good now.

[Jeff00042]

I had an RA serial number that never worked right even after two trips back to Kahr. I resent being a beta tester. I've been following the progress of this model and it seems the RC series has worked out most of the problems. I took a chance and bought an RC4XXX. It is running well.

[Cokeman]

I guess the question is why would Kahr keep building the 380? They need to get it right. Seems to me this caliber is problematic for Kahr.

Who says they haven't? They had a bad run and we saw many complaints. The complaints have pretty much stopped. This gun was made 2-3 years ago.

[jocko]

MY RA# went back once ad it was one of the first 125 P380's made. They didn'treplace the frame or anything but fixed the gun. All is well.

They certainly had soe issues witrh the first batchs out of the door, but since then, they have squared away everything and the reports now are excellent. It is the best 380 when it does what it is suypposed to do and the worst when it does not.

Whether we gun owners like it or not and I amsaying all gun owners, not just kahr. WE ARE BETA TESTERS. Those who set back a year plus and watched how a new model performed turned out to be far wiser than I was..

[MW surveyor]

Never ever be a beta tester for anything you have to pay for!

[Jeff00042]

MW Surveyor: Well spoken!

[jocko]

Never ever be a beta tester for anything you have to pay for!

but as u well know it doesn't work thgat way either...

[JFootin]

good point
but as u well know it doesn't work thgat way either...

Words of wisdom, for sure. They had a saying back in Roman times and it was probably as old as civilization even then: "Caveat emptor."

[MDH65]

So what is the typical service/repair time with Kahr?
Regards to the P380 pistols.

[jocko]

Words of wisdom, for sure. They had a saying back in Roman times and it was probably as old as civilization even then: "Caveat emptor."

Words of wisdom, for sure. They had a saying back in Roman times and it was probably as old as civilization even then: "Caveat emptor.


NO sh!t they really said that back then, :behindsofa: I bet u knew Julius even. Just sayin.

I'mgonna pay better attention to you Mr. Footin,from now on..:D

[Tinman507]

Ahhh, Latin. The basis of most western languages.

You may be familiar with this Latin saying:

Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?





















(Is that a scroll in your toga, or are you just happy to see me?)

[jocko]

not familiar with that saying but I am familiar with that spelling. Just sayn.

Evidently they didn't use spell check back then,,,huh?:behindsofa:

[JFootin]

Words of wisdom, for sure. They had a saying back in Roman times and it was probably as old as civilization even then: "Caveat emptor.


NO sh!t they really said that back then, :behindsofa: I bet u knew Julius even. Just sayin.

I'mgonna pay better attention to you Mr. Footin,from now on..:D

LOL! :)


Ahhh, Latin. The basis of most western languages.

You may be familiar with this Latin saying:

Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?





















(Is that a scroll in your toga, or are you just happy to see me?)

I haven't had a scroll in my toga for a long time! :(

[MDH65]

So what is the typical service/repair time with Kahr?
Regards to the P380 pistols.

Anyone???

[MDH65]

Well, FedEx had a package for me today.
Looks like they replaced the cocking cam, striker block, ejector, extractor, slide stop, side panel and recoil spring. They also polished the feed ramp and did a test fire and came back good.

Hopefully will get a chance to take it out this friday and give it my own test run.

Overall a very quick turn around.

[gm412]

Hard to predict. Depends on what they need to do to "repair" the gun. Minimum is probably about a week, door to door. Major repair requiring a new frame, often a month or a little more by the time they ship it through your FFL.

Mine took 3.5 weeks from the day I mailed it.

[HDoc]

I guess the question is why would Kahr keep building the 380? They need to get it right. Seems to me this caliber is problematic for Kahr.

My Rcxxx is just fine. A bit ammo sensitive, but shoots well. That's why they keep making them.

[MDH65]

So got the P380 out today and took several boxes of ammo with us. Made it thru about 40rds out of a box of 50rds of UMC ball before it started to have issues.

The round (ball ammo) was having intermittant feeding problems. At first it was the last round in the mag. Then it was sporadically any round and others would feed fine.
Now the lighting wasnt great at the range but it seemed like the round was either hanging up on the feed ramp or on the other end. Like the rim of the cartridge didnt want to go between the breach and the extractor.

Will give it a good cleaning and try again later this week.

Oh, BTW, every round that did feed went bang!

So that is way better than before.

[michpatriot]

So what is the typical service/repair time with Kahr?
Regards to the P380 pistols.
It could take several times

[henrygo]

Jocko, well said. Been reading your posts for a year and this is my first. I had an early one too, went back twice and finally got an RCxxxx that works. At first I thought you were a company shill, but that was unfair. When the frame was finally replaced, I had to go back and requalify and do lots of paperwork but in the end, I have a gun that works and not a paperweight. I loved the euphemisms used by the Kahr reps. Like out of spec. It never was in spec. We are never told what indeed was out of spec.
hg

[MDH65]

Did the mag follower mod and got back out to the range. Went thru 40rds of ball, then 20 rds of Gold dots and 20rds of PMC Starfire. All withou issues. Then tried other hollow point ammo with some feeding issues.
Will post later what those other rounds are.

[jocko]

Jocko, well said. Been reading your posts for a year and this is my first. I had an early one too, went back twice and finally got an RCxxxx that works. At first I thought you were a company shill, but that was unfair. When the frame was finally replaced, I had to go back and requalify and do lots of paperwork but in the end, I have a gun that works and not a paperweight. I loved the euphemisms used by the Kahr reps. Like out of spec. It never was in spec. We are never told what indeed was out of spec.
hg

een called everything but never a "shill" Just sayin

I love my kahrs, but I don't cut um any slack. nor any other product..

[JERRY]

i was considering a Kahr .380, but after reading all the from the factory problems i will wait for the beta testers to get the bugs out.....

[MDH65]

Did the mag follower mod and got back out to the range. Went thru 40rds of ball, then 20 rds of Gold dots and 20rds of PMC Starfire. All withou issues. Then tried other hollow point ammo with some feeding issues.
Will post later what those other rounds are.

OK, so after shooting 20rds each of Gold dots and Starfire ammo, I went to 25rds of Remington Golden Sabers. Had 3-4 ftf issues. Then 20rds of Hornady Critical Defense. Again 3-4 ftf issues and finally 20rds of Win Personal Protection SXT with 3-4 ftf.

Now the little P380 was getting pretty dirty after the first 80rds so am wondering if the ftf issues can be linked to that?

Anyway, next range session will take more ammo out and see what happens.

So what ammo have you had success with and what has had issues???

[MDH65]

OK another good cleaning and off to the range again.

Started with 50rds of Estate 95gr ball. All good. Then tried MFS ball ammo. Would not fire any rounds of this. So tried some more Estate and first round went bang. Took a closer look at the primer on the MFS rounds that I had tried and saw a slight primer hit. Figure this must be a harder primer and the Kahr couldnt ignite it.
Then ran 50rds of Remington 88gr HP thru without issue. Ran about 25rds of Win SXT HP and it had maybe 5 ftf issues so stopped the win stuff.
Next was some Federal low recoil Hydrashoks, had some ftf with those so finally ran some more GoldDots thru and a box of 20rds went 100%.
And this was a dirty gun at this point.

Looks like GoldDots will be what we'll be feeding it. Have to find the LE 50rd boxes as they are cheaper.

So figure around another 170rds or so thru her and getting better :D

[JFootin]

Sounds like there is still some out of spec issue with the gun, because a healthy Kahr is usually not ammo sensitive as long as it is decent quality stuff.

[gm412]

Sounds like you still have issues. I have given up on mine for a while. Tiered of dealing with it. Sent it back several times and last time it came back worse than when I sent it. Wish they would test these better before sending them back.

[MDH65]

Suggestions on what I might do next then?

Magazine follower mods?