SBR Tax Stamp

[Markis82]

Does anyone have experience in obtaining a short barrel rifle tax stamp? Do I buy the gun first? How do I get the stamp? What happens if I buy the gun and cannot get the stamp? Anything else I have no idea about? There is a 9mm Uzi in my near future. Some have told me to get the Uzi pistol or the long barrel rifle, in order to get around buying the stamp. Those just won't do it for me. I need the original.

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[jocko]

If's is full auto u need the stamp and u apply for it first before u ever get the gun any class 3 dealer can waqlk u through that part. U buy the gun, u just can't take possesion until u are cleared.. I am guessing that if someone made uzi in pistlol length from the git go and it was semi auto only, then it would be registered as a pistol like any other pistol

any full auto be it pistol or rifle must hgave the federal stamp . I bought quite a fewyears ago a M14 full auto from a class 3 dealer. It took me 4 months to get the approved stamp and it was good for that gun only, then and then only could I take possession of the gun fromt eh class 3 dealer. I sold it years later and that new buyer had to go through the same ordeal that I did. He could not take posserssion of the M14 from me until he got his apaproved stamp..

Not sure how or what rules have changed today, probalby today even more stricter..

When i BOUGHT MY m14 BACK THEN i HAD THE CHANCE TO BUY AN UZI and a MP9. big mistake on my part on not buyiing either one of those instead of the M14. The uzi was awesome, not practical but awesome..

[Markis82]

These have been converted to semi only. I only need a SBR stamp. Any info on that?

[jocko]

mARKIS82. u can google sbr stamp up and get all the right info needed to cover ur question. seems like lots of info there.





Short-barreled rifle


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A "sawed-off" Mauser 98
Short-barreled rifle (SBR) is a legal designation in the United States, referring to a shoulder-fired, rifled firearm with a barrel length of less than 16 inches (40.6 cm) or overall length of less than 26 inches (66.0 cm). In the United States, an SBR is an item regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) as an NFA firearm. In the absence of local laws prohibiting ownership, American civilians may own an SBR provided it is registered with the BATFE, and a $200 tax is paid prior to taking possession of or creating the firearm.





Contents
[hide] 1 Measurement method
2 Production
3 Legality
4 See also
5 References


[edit] Measurement method

Overall length is measured between the extreme ends of the gun, along a centerline which passes through the middle of the barrel. For rifles fitted with folding or telescoping stocks (such as U.S. Carbine M1A1), US Federal guidelines state that measurement is made with the stock unfolded as intended for use as a rifle; exception is made for rifles with easily detachable shoulder stocks, which shall be measured with shoulder stock detached. Some states such as California and Michigan measure overall length with the stock folded. Barrel length is measured from the end of the muzzle to the front of the breechface, typically by inserting a measuring rod into the barrel. Barrel length may partially comprise a permanently attached muzzle accessory (such as a compensator or flash suppressor).[1]

[edit] Production





A handgun, such as a Browning HP, with a shoulder stock installed may be considered a short-barreled rifle under US law, depending on year of manufacture of the pistol and stock.
SBRs may be created by trimming down a larger rifle, by building a rifle with an original barrel shorter than 16 inches, or by adding a shoulder stock to a handgun which is fitted with a barrel shorter than 16 inches, thereby legally redefining it as a rifle rather than a handgun. Each of these processes must legally be accompanied by BATFE registration. Certain old handguns originally available with shoulder stocks, such as original broomhandle Mausers or Lugers, made before 1946, more likely to be valued as curios or relics than as weapons, have been removed from federal SBR restriction but may be restricted under local gun laws.[2] Certain "trapper model" rifles originally factory-made before 1934 with barrels under 16 inches have similarly been removed from federal SBR restriction (the BATFE publishes a Curios and Relics List of models and serial number ranges). While SBRs on the Curio & Relic List are not "firearms" regulated under the 1934 National Firearms Act, they are still "firearms" regulated by the 1968 Gun Control Act.

[edit] Legality

In the United States, it is a federal felony to possess an SBR without paying a $200 tax to the BATFE. BATFE notification is required when transporting an SBR across state lines; this is accomplished by filing Form 5320.20 in advance of the travel date. One must be cautious not to take an SBR into a state where the SBR is prohibited. One can take an SBR through a state where the weapon is prohibited when on a direct route and have prior approval from the BATFE with a Form 5320.20. One must be careful not to take an SBR into international waters, as there is a proper procedure to return with the SBR to the United States.[3]

Purchasing a short-barreled rifle is accomplished by filing a BATFE Form 4, Application for Tax Paid Transfer and Registration of a Firearm, and paying a $200 tax. A short-barreled rifle must be transferred by a Class 3 SOT dealer. When an individual wishes to build a short-barreled rifle, he or she must beforehand submit a completed BATFE Form 1, Application to Make and Register a Firearm, along with $200 for payment of the tax stamp

[Bawanna]

JohnH and Ghostsoldier have done the SBR thing. You definitely need the stamp first without question.

I got all the paper (available on line) once planning to put a normal length barrel on my Thompson. Your basically applying to be a manufacturer.

Full auto, not applicable in your case as you mention is a totally different ball game. That requires a Class III license which I'm sure is much more costly, time consuming and ulcer causing in it's own right.

I determined it wasn't worth it to me. I never did find out if the tax was annual or a one time thing either. A one time thing might be ok but if it's a couple hundred every year not so good.

[jocko]

the tax greatone is a one time event. looks like the sbr tax stamp is the sampe price as for a full auto tax stamp..

sure looks like a pain in the ass to me

[Bawanna]

the tax greatone is a one time event. looks like the sbr tax stamp is the sampe price as for a full auto tax stamp..

sure looks like a pain in the ass to me

That's kind of how I felt about it too. I'd love to have my Tommy back in original configuration but not worth the headache to me right now.