My CW9 broke!!!

[Sweaty Bullitts]

At the range today, my CW9 fired two mags just fine, then starting with the third, it would fire the first round OK, and chamber the second round OK as well, but the trigger would not reset, so the gun would not fire. When I ejected the mag and cleared the round in the chamber, and reinserted the mag, the same thing happened again - the first round would chamber correctly and fire, but the second round would chamber, but would not fire because the trigger was not reset.

At home this evening, I cleared the gun, and with no mag inserted, I could not reset the trigger at all. Normally, racking the slide about half an inch would reset the trigger (pre-compress??), but now it won't reset at all.

It seems to me that something must have been broken or damaged. Can anyone tell me what with the info I've provided?

Thanks,

Sweaty

[TucsonMTB]

If I were experiencing what you are, I would drop an email, pretty much exactly as you described it in your forum message to Kahr Customer Service.

Email: service@kahr.com Phone: (508)795-3919

If you don't get a response to your email within the day, it will be a surprise.

Ask them for a prepaid label to make life easier.

And, hang in there . . . it will be alright! :)

[jocko]

It needs to go back what Tucson stated is the way to go. insist that they issue a pre pair pickup on ur gun.u should not be out a dime. Evidently ur gun is out of time and that could be a multitude of things. Nuttin u did wrong, . direct ur email or phone call to Jay

[TucsonMTB]

It needs to go back what Tucson staqted is the way to go. ijsist thaqt they issue a pre pair p[ickup on ur gun.u should not be oput a dime. Evidently ur gun is out of time and that could be amul;titude of things. Nuttin u did wrong, . direct ur email or phone call to Jay
If you would like to follow Jocko's excellent advice, Jay's email is: jay.dandrea@kahr.com

[Sweaty Bullitts]

I have not contacted Kahr yet, but I have discovered the cause of the problem: the cocking cam spring broke. The purpose of this spring is to force the cocking cam in the frame to return to the "up" position so the tab at the bottom rear of the stricker will catch on it as the slide moves forward, holding the striker in the semi-compressed (or "cocked") state. With the cocking cam spring broken, the cocking cam remains "down" and does not catch the striker as the slide begins to move forward. The next round in the magazine is still stripped out and pushed into the chamber, but with the striker not in the "cocked" state, the trigger has nothing to push against, and you just stand there feeling foolish (or dead.)

This DVD (http://gunvideo.com/pgroup_descrip/80/7087/?return=%3ftpl%3Dindex%26category_id%3D80%26) helped me understand the problem.

I still am going to contact Kahr about this, and will report the outcome here. Thanks for the advise!

Sweaty

[jocko]

well that is about a first for that little spring. evidently u have totally dissassembled the lower frame to get to that part. If u went that far, I think I would just ask kahr if they would send u a new spring. Now if u have not taken that lower frame down and are aqssuming that spring is broke which evidently soething is wrong there. then IMO . let kahr take the gun back and fix it right, on their dime...

[johnh]

Very strange indeed. I know how seriously Kahr takes their spring manufacture in terms of quality control and metallurgy. Of course if you make a million springs, one or two of the batch may still break. Definitely let them fix it for you as I am sure they will take good care of you.

[Sweaty Bullitts]

No, I haven't taken the frame down, and I intend to have Kahr do the spring replacement. I "know" the issue is with that spring because the DVD I referenced above shows how to take it down, and from that I gathered that by removing the side plate I'd be able to see what's going on in there. And sure enough, looking through that "window," I saw that the spring was not functioning, in that after fully pulling the trigger (which causes the trigger bar to slide to the rear and rotate the cocking cam "down"), then releasing the trigger (which causes the trigger bar to slide back forward), the cocking cam did not rotate back "up", which would happen if the cocking cam spring was functioning properly. Also, I could see that there appeared to be no tension on the spring as I manually rotated the cam up and down.

Wow, what a convoluted explanation for something that really is pretty simple!

So, as I see it, either the spring end came out of the hole in the cocking cam, or the spring end broke off. I vote for "broke" because there doesn't appear to be enough room between the cocking cam and the ejector for the spring to back out of the hole on the cam.

Anyway, thanks again for the input,

Sweaty

[yqtszhj]

Yep, send it back on their dime. You don't want to try and fix that yourself.

[downtownv]

Wow that's kinda freak thing to happen... I wouldn't trust the gun unless Kahr themselves fixed it.

[Sweaty Bullitts]

UPDATE

I was right! Kahr replaced the cocking cam spring, and now all is more better!! :D

I sent it in on their dime (they emailed me a prepaid shipping label) on 8/3, and received it back today, 8/23.