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krisspy
07-17-2012, 01:46 PM
Being that it's smaller, doesn't it stand to reason that the CM9 should retail for less than the CW9? Yet, everywhere I look, the CW9 is $20-40 less than the CM9.

MW surveyor
07-17-2012, 01:51 PM
In the gun world, smaller usually means more expensive for a quality item. Remember that the CM9 is a "budget" version of the PM9 which is more expensive than the P9 and the CW9.

Just my 2 cents and YMMV.

APSKahr
07-17-2012, 01:53 PM
MSRP is $32 more for the CM9. That is determined by Kahr and dealers can charge whatever they want. Both dealers and Kahr know that the CM9 will be more popular than the CW9 for concealed carry so they can charge more.

wisconman
07-17-2012, 02:57 PM
As mfrs make these pistols smaller, machining becomes more critical in order to ensure they function. But as noted, supply and demand also play a large part in pricing, and the micros like the cm9 are simply more in demand that the slightly larger cw9s.

Jim R

jocko
07-17-2012, 03:00 PM
material wise, probably not a hill of beans different in price from the bigger polymer kahrs...U can bet ur sweet ass that demand brings about price

Tinman507
07-17-2012, 03:02 PM
I think I read someplace the CM9 is polished with puppy eyelashes. That could account for the difference. :behindsofa:

yqtszhj
07-17-2012, 07:35 PM
higher demand for concealed size

downtownv
07-17-2012, 08:09 PM
PT Barnum: There's a sucker born every minute.

JFootin
07-17-2012, 08:48 PM
Well now, does a Glock G26 cost more than a G19? Does a Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact cost more than the full size gun? I don't think so.

CJB
07-17-2012, 09:30 PM
PT Barnum: There's a sucker born every minute.

My God! Someone hand that man a cigar and polish his shoes too while yer at it.

Somebody gets it! That, my friends is the basis of the free market.

Not so much the sucker part, but the concept of everything will find its own value, at the point at which people are willing to pay for it.

The two pistols more than likely "cost" the same to make. The "extra machining" on the slide is nil. Cosmetic when you've got a huge Fadal CNC machine cranking 'em out. The cost would be measured not indirect dollars, but indirect dollars such as tooling wear and number of units produced in a certain amount of time. Its a nil difference. The barrel is interesting, as the cost of hammer forged barrels is the same - no matter if they are traditional or polygonal rifling. Yup. Same cost to make. The machine does not care what the mandrel looks like when it beats the living snot out of the blank. Kahr does not use "cut" rifling as far as I know. They might have button rifled pistol barrels made for them... but the pricing on button rifling vs hammer forging... nil difference. In large production, hammer forging is actually cheaper in fact.

So why the difference in price - market perception of a high end vs entry level product... more or less.

Why is first class so much more. Is it that you get there quicker? No. Better meal? Not $200 better. Better napkin. What I just said. Its so much more because folks are willing to pay that much more. If nobody bought a first class ticket, the price would drop, or services increase, until sales were again made. OR they'd drop the first class completely.

Supply and demand solves every economic question folks. Every time.

nmkahrshooter
07-18-2012, 06:32 AM
The bigger the demand, the higher the price. Simple economics.

Popeye
07-18-2012, 08:10 AM
The bigger the demand, the higher the price. Simple economics.

That pretty much says it all. I have it, you want it, I'm going to charge as much as I can get for it. It's just business.

krisspy
07-18-2012, 08:25 AM
The bigger the demand, the higher the price. Simple economics.
This seems funny to me because just yesterday I was in my LGS looking at both the CM9 and CW9 and the sales manager told me that he sells four CW9s to every one CM9. Yet, the CW9 was $369 while the CM9 was $399.

les strat
07-18-2012, 08:28 AM
Cause their just cooler

;)

JFootin
07-18-2012, 10:52 AM
This seems funny to me because just yesterday I was in my LGS looking at both the CM9 and CW9 and the sales manager told me that he sells four CW9s to every one CM9. Yet, the CW9 was $369 while the CM9 was $399.

Well, I think the price difference is in what Kahr charges for them wholesale. Maybe the motivation is the same:
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Originally Posted by nmkahrshooter http://kahrtalk.com/images/tigra/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?p=174863#post174863)
The bigger the demand, the higher the price. Simple economics.

But it doesn't seem to be as simple as that. As I said in my other post, other manufacturers don't charge more for their subcompact guns.

CrabbyAzz
07-18-2012, 11:05 AM
It's cause they look so dam elegant.