A man's got to do what a man's got to do

[Barth]

HK P30 40 LEM - bought one hour ago.
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[les strat]

Nice! My bud at work has one and loves it.

[Tinman507]

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[Barth]

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Well I was thinking about that.
I've got about 6 months of savings for the new truck.
Then one more month for the money for the HK.
Or, could just buy and love the HK right now.
And just wait an extra month for the new truck.

So I did the responsible thing and bought the HK - Woo Hoo.

[BimmerBob]

Man, that thing looks ginormous after owning a Kahr. What's that big thing where your hands go?

[JFootin]

Well I was thinking about that.
I've got about 6 months of savings for the new truck.
Then one more month for the money for the HK.
Or, could just buy and love the HK right now.
And just wait an extra months for the new truck.

So I did the responsible thing and bought the HK - Woo Hoo.

You're hopeless! :p

[Barth]

Man, that thing looks ginormous after owning a Kahr. What's that big thing where your hands go?

Actually it's a compact and is almost exactly the same size, and loaded weight, of my Sig Sauer P239.
Except the HK is 13+1 not 7+1 like the P239.
Even fits in the same holster.
The grip is about the same thickness too.
I'd say it's about the size of a Glock G19 with a thinner grip.
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This was my first try, close range, with the HK LEM Law enforcement modification double action trigger.
I never heard of anything like this.
It's actually got two hammers.
The internal one is pre-cocked and you drive the second with the trigger.
Or If you get a dud round the trigger can drive both hammers for a double strike!
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I have the V2 LEM. It's like 8 lbs?
HK Spring changes also produce the V4 LEM ~6 lbs
and V1 light LEM ~4.5/5 lbs.

I've got the spring set, a third mag and Big Dots in the mail.
Apparently Germany frowns on radioactive night sights.

[Bawanna]

I see Babe Ruth in the pattern.

[Barth]

I see Babe Ruth in the pattern.

LOL
I see it! I see it!

More picks of my new girl...
Her grip angle feels reminiscent of a 1911 to me.
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[BimmerBob]

Oh, I know it's not a large gun objectively, but I'm comparing to a PM9 - that HK has got so much more to hold on to!

[PattayaPistol]

Enjoy the gun Barth. I have the P30 in 9mm V3. I love that gun. I only have 3000 rounds through it but it is so reliable and accurate that training sessions get boring. The gun is so good that it makes me look like I know what I am doing. :53:

Cheers
PP

[muggsy]

I see Babe Ruth in the pattern.

Shotguns pattern, handguns group. Let's try to use the proper terminology around here, Bawanna. Only Jocko's groups look like patterns. The test pattern for channel 9. :)

[muggsy]

HK P30 40 LEM - bought one hour ago.
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Nice catch, Barth. The only thing I don't like on the H&K is that damn square trigger guard. Guns, like women, should have no sharp corners.

[Barth]

Enjoy the gun Barth. I have the P30 in 9mm V3. I love that gun. I only have 3000 rounds through it but it is so reliable and accurate that training sessions get boring. The gun is so good that it makes me look like I know what I am doing. :53:

Cheers
PP

Thanks!
I had a HK USP 45 compact years ago.
Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it.
Was so embarrassing and frustrating to shoot I got rid of it.

I was hoping the new improved ergonomics of the P30 might change all that.
Couldn't find one to rent to check it out so I just took a leap of faith.
I'm really into triggers too. And dry firing the LEM was the kicker for me.
Plus the new gun had a $949 price. I told the sales girl, drop $49 to $900 and
I'll buy it right now. She had to check with the owner and I left with the gun!

Went shooting yesterday, just 200 rounds, and I'm in love with this gun.
It's everything I want in a carry pistol.
Ultimate ergonomics, near match accurate, perfect size weight and balance.
The LEM gives a same every time light striker feel to the trigger with
double strike hammer DA capability. I had a 357 with a hard primer that required a second strike from my P239!

Just field striping the gun you can see and feel the quality.
No buyers remorse at all, just a big smile!
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[les strat]

Nice catch, Barth. The only thing I don't like on the H&K is that damn square trigger guard. Guns, like women, should have no sharp corners.

I think that is cut back and cornered for mounting a weapon light or other accesory on the rail, right? That's why I thought Glocks were like that as well.

[PattayaPistol]

I think that is cut back and cornered for mounting a weapon light or other accesory on the rail, right? That's why I thought Glocks were like that as well.

Exactly. Mine has a rail light attached when it is doing HD duty - every night. The light is snug up against the trigger guard.

Cheers
PP

[JFootin]

I think that is cut back and cornered for mounting a weapon light or other accesory on the rail, right? That's why I thought Glocks were like that as well.


Exactly. Mine has a rail light attached when it is doing HD duty - every night. The light is snug up against the trigger guard.

Cheers
PP

Hmm. I never thought of that. I thought it was squared off and serrated to provide a purchase for the weak hand, to provide a firm two-handed grip and help reduce muzzle flip.

[Barth]

Ran around all day Sunday with the HK P30 cross draw.
It's the perfect size and weight for me.
Carries like it's not even there.

I'm so happy with this gun I just can't take it - LOL!

Ordered 500 rounds of Federal 155 gr JHP,
and 100 Speer 155 gr GDHPs.

Should have the third mag, V1 light LEM springs
and XS 24/7 Big Dot sights by the end of the week.
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[PattayaPistol]

Barth, I see you are getting help and advice over there at HKPro. You will find that a great forum to get advice on all things HK. The forum does get heated sometimes with some member having "attitude problems", but I have found even those members are polite and helpful when dealing directly via PM's. In other words, during your visits there, don't be discouraged if you come across an attitude every so often.

Enjoy
PP

[Krusty]

You got yourself an awesome piece there,it's a tack driver and very reliable. I have the P2000 and never got any problems,HK'are high quality/price, I 'm sure you'll be very happy for a long time.Congrats!

[Barth]

Barth, I see you are getting help and advice over there at HKPro. You will find that a great forum to get advice on all things HK. The forum does get heated sometimes with some member having "attitude problems", but I have found even those members are polite and helpful when dealing directly via PM's. In other words, during your visits there, don't be discouraged if you come across an attitude every so often.

Enjoy
PP

Already got a taste of that.
Being a newbie and asking common questions I expected to get some flack.
Still, got some really good info.

It's interesting.
Their is a lot of confusion and misinformation about the right springs for P30 LEM Light V1.
Even the HKparts website has conflicting info.

Fortunately the technical resource section sticky on LEM Light V1 installation,
and some others posting corrections, I was able to sort it out in the early AM hours.
It's really just the FPBS light and TRS light springs that do it.
The HS remains the same.
Printed the FPBS/TRS installation instructions for the gunsmith.
I'm getting the Big Dots and an extra mag express mailed to me today at 12PM.
Will turn in to the gunsmith for V1 Light LEM and NS installation this afternoon.
Should have a consistent ~5.5 lbs pull when done.

This is going to be fun!!!

[Barth]

You got yourself an awesome piece there,it's a tack driver and very reliable. I have the P2000 and never got any problems,HK'are high quality/price, I 'm sure you'll be very happy for a long time.Congrats!

Thanks!
$900 seems like a lot for a handgun.
But I usually get trigger jobs, match barrels....
And all my guns, even the Glock, end up around $900 or more.
(Glock EXO G27 $650 + Storm Lake G27-357 ported Isonite barrel + $208 + SS RSA $50)

About 26 oz, high capacity, super ergonomics, recoil reduction technology,
near match grade accuracy - and it's bomb proof baby!!!

For $900 this gun is a steal - LOL!
I think of a SD handgun as life insurance.
And I'm priceless.

I couldn't be happier.
Life is good
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[JFootin]

I'm glad you are able to feed that need, Barth! :)

That is a great looking gun. Looks ergonomic. How stiff is the recoil spring, compared to a PM/CM? Do you know the poundage? Probably don't need a grip sleeve or anything. (Although I like the sure grip that rubber gives.) You know, I wish manufacturers would start making poly frame guns with replaceable grips so an owner could opt for rubber or wood grips.

[JFootin]

What is the chance of someone releasing the mag when drawing the gun from deep cover?

[knkali]

I see Babe Ruth in the pattern.


That was dang funny

[Barth]

I'm glad you are able to feed that need, Barth! :)

That is a great looking gun. Looks ergonomic. How stiff is the recoil spring, compared to a PM/CM? Do you know the poundage? Probably don't need a grip sleeve or anything. (Although I like the sure grip that rubber gives.) You know, I wish manufacturers would start making poly frame guns with replaceable grips so an owner could opt for rubber or wood grips.

I don't know the spring rate.
It feels much less than my MK40.
Less than my Sig P220.
A little more than my Sig P239 or Glock G27.

My gun does have three sizes of replaceable rear and side panels.
Grip angle feels like a 1911. I like the standard panels and haven't messed with them.
http://ttag.zippykidcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/P30-with-grip-panels-courtesy-hk-usa.com_.jpg

[Barth]

What is the chance of someone releasing the mag when drawing the gun from deep cover?

It's too big for deep cover.
About the size of a Glock G19 or Sig P239.
I was worried about the mag release, but it's rounded, well placed
and actually works better than I expected.
The controls on the gun actually are easier to work, without changing my grip, than my Sig or Glock guns.

I really don't think you would ever accidentally dump the mag the way they are designed.

[JFootin]

I don't know the spring rate.
It feels much less than my MK40.
Less than my Sig P220.
A little more than my Sig P239 or Glock G27.

My gun does have three sizes of replaceable rear and side panels.
Grip angle feels like a 1911. I like the standard panels and haven't messed with them.
http://ttag.zippykidcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/P30-with-grip-panels-courtesy-hk-usa.com_.jpg

Oh, cool. So the side panels are changeable, opening up the possibility of custom grips. Bawanna, whaddayathink? :D

[Bawanna]

I'm not optimistic but if some one wants to send me one for trial I'll give it a go.