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muggsy
08-19-2012, 06:53 PM
Does anyone know if it's necessary to go through an FFL to sell a black powder revolver to someone in another state? I'm not talking about the state of confusion that we usually find Bawanna in. :)

Bawanna
08-19-2012, 06:56 PM
I don't believe you need an FFL. I think you can buy those on line and have them delivered to your door.

I can't swear on the Sears Roebuck catalog on this but I don't think you need the FFL.

Course I do get confused easily what with my locale and all.

ltxi
08-19-2012, 07:08 PM
Federally speaking....black powder arms are FFL free

CJB
08-19-2012, 07:19 PM
Local restrictions may require it, but there is no Federal mandate for it.

MikeyKahr
08-19-2012, 07:23 PM
You may have some issues with local ordinance given your location muggsy. Might have to head south a bit to stay legal.

tv_racin_fan
08-19-2012, 08:28 PM
Muggsy it would depend on the state(s) envolved. Generally speaking you should be fine so long as you are not sending it to NY, NJ, CA, IL.

I have bought a couple off Gunbroker with no issues.

muggsy
08-20-2012, 02:35 PM
Thanks fellas, I really appreciate the help. Your all regular guys, even Bawanna. My dad had an FFL and I thought that this was the case. I'm thinking of selling my Ruger "Old Army" stainless .45 Cal. cap and ball pistol to a guy that I used to hunt with in PA. If he's no longer interested, I may list it on our board. I don't shoot much black powder any more.

jocko
08-20-2012, 02:46 PM
I checked on that very thing a bout 20 years ago. a niiced guy who was a convicted felon came into my gun shop and askme to check to seeif he could buy a muzzleoad pistol and or rifle. I called ATF and wastold no restrictions against that, actually the agent I talked toeven kinda was wondering why they could legaly own a black powdcer gun but not a normal firearm....

jThe only thing I will contest here is Muggsy comments. I quote. "
Your all regular guys, even Bawanna.. Bawaqnna is not regular, he is iconic,like Harley Davidosn, he is one of kind. Just sayin

He marks his territoryt with chaiir marks in the form of an X. best place tofind them is near your wifes bedroom window. Justy sayin:der:

Bawanna
08-20-2012, 02:52 PM
Got me some new tires, need to install em tonight. No more wear bars. He won't go far now kemosabee.

Won't be able to recognize my tracks now for sure.

JERRY
08-20-2012, 03:35 PM
jocko, i think convicted felons are barred from black powder guns as well.

will have to look up the fed statues on that, better than a field agent's guess.

muggsy
08-20-2012, 06:05 PM
I checked on that very thing a bout 20 years ago. a niiced guy who was a convicted felon came into my gun shop and askme to check to seeif he could buy a muzzleoad pistol and or rifle. I called ATF and wastold no restrictions against that, actually the agent I talked toeven kinda was wondering why they could legaly own a black powdcer gun but not a normal firearm....

jThe only thing I will contest here is Muggsy comments. I quote. "
Your all regular guys, even Bawanna.. Bawaqnna is not regular, he is iconic,like Harley Davidosn, he is one of kind. Just sayin

He marks his territoryt with chaiir marks in the form of an X. best place tofind them is near your wifes bedroom window. Justy sayin:der:

Bawanna is just a regular guy. You, on the other hand, are High Test. :)

ltxi
08-20-2012, 06:46 PM
jocko, i think convicted felons are barred from black powder guns as well.

will have to look up the fed statues on that, better than a field agent's guess.

Good Lord, I hope not!!

TheTman
08-20-2012, 10:06 PM
From a few minutes of googling, I believe black powder firearms, are ok for a felon to possess according to Federal law, although they must not use certain "modern" components found on many newer black powder rifles, such as the type of "modern" percussion caps and projectiles fired. This even applies to revolvers. I believe that black powder rifles MUST be old fashioned muzzle loaders, and not some of these newer types of black powder rifles that have come out lately. Finding an original black powder firearm from the 1800's would be the safest route to go.

State laws vary, and I would consult my state law to see what they say. They could be well more restrictive.

I had a friend in Colorado that got screwed over and got a felony charge for resisting arrest in an incident that should not have even involved cops. She went to ask an ex boyfriend for some help, and the jerk call the cops, and told them she had tried to break in his house. The cop had her handcuffed sitting on the curb, and he says she kicked him. wah wah the big wuss, But she got convicted on a FELONY anyway, and now she can't even own Pepper Spray, so state laws, will vary on what is legal and what's not. I told her to get a can of that wasp spray that shoots quite a ways and to shoot that in a BG's eyes in case of a break in. I've heard that is just as effective as pepper spray, as long as it gets in the eyes, and has a greater range.

AJBert
08-21-2012, 06:41 PM
In the eyes of the Feds, blackpowder/muzzleloaders are not firearms. Same goes with air rifles. No 4473 to fill out, no background check. Here in LA you just pick out what you want and go to the register to pay. No firearms escort required within the store, either.

But, as has been said, other states my have their own ideas and laws.