Night Sights - P380

[TXshooter3]

This is my first post, so I'm sorry if this is in the wrong area.

I just bought an all black P380 with the tritium night sights and a Crimson Trace laser. When I draw the gun from of my front pocket the rear sight snags in the pocket of my jeans. The top edge and corners of the rear sight are somewhat sharp and that is what's catching. The gun range had a P380 with regular sights and I was able do draw that one without snagging.

Can I simply take a file and smooth the edge a little, or will that ruin the finish on the rear night sight? Any suggestions are appreciated!

FWIW - My front pocket holster hasn't come in yet so I was drawing it unloaded straight out of my jeans pocket. The holster may eliminate the issue and I don't plan on carrying it without a holster.

Thanks,
Will
Dallas, TX

[jocko]

birchwood cold blue will cover what ever u take off. Personaly Ithink u should live with it . Pocket carry is never a fast draw area and no doubt u have compared a sight that pleases us, but again no holster again is not the way to carry and u are awareofthat. wait until u get ur pocket holster and then test out and proceed after that. I have xs big dots in my P380 and if it grabs I don';t notice it, again tome the purpose of oocket carry is to not have todressto carry and to have it on u at alltimes. Certainly some ofthe draw backs are getting the damn gunout of the pcket as fast as some think it should be. again it is not a fast draw area, but again the BG doesn't know ur carrying either and to my knowledge I have never read of anyone getting shot for being alittle late on the draw. Not the wrong area to ever ask a good question, .

welcome abaord.

I carry my PM9 and P380 in a desantis and unclemikes pocket rig, I wearjeans 24/7 and just the jeans itself is sometimes an effort to even get my money clip out ofmy pocket, but again Iam carrying 24/7 and that is a big plus to saving my life and my families, The fella down the street is on his own IMO. I don't carry to portect or get involved in other people's issues...

[muggsy]

birchwood cold blue will cover what ever u take off. Personaly Ithink u should live with it . Pocket carry is never a fast draw area and no doubt u have compared a sight that pleases us, but again no holster again is not the way to carry and u are awareofthat. wait until u get ur pocket holster and then test out and proceed after that. I have xs big dots in my P380 and if it grabs I don';t notice it, again tome the purpose of oocket carry is to not have todressto carry and to have it on u at alltimes. Certainly some ofthe draw backs are getting the damn gunout of the pcket as fast as some think it should be. again it is not a fast draw area, but again the BG doesn't know ur carrying either and to my knowledge I have never read of anyone getting shot for being alittle late on the draw. Not the wrong area to ever ask a good question, .

welcome abaord.

I carry my PM9 and P380 in a desantis and unclemikes pocket rig, I wearjeans 24/7 and just the jeans itself is sometimes an effort to even get my money clip out ofmy pocket, but again Iam carrying 24/7 and that is a big plus to saving my life and my families, The fella down the street is on his own IMO. I don't carry to portect or get involved in other people's issues...

I've heard that the slowest draw in the world is you removing your money clip from your pocket. :)

[getsome]

Hi TXshooter2 and welcome to Kahrtalk....Like Jocko said a little file work and some cold blue will cover up the bright mark on the sight if the sharp edge really bothers you but after you find the right pocket holster (Never carry without one and the only thing in that pocket should be the pistol and holster) try drawing using a different style such as try placing your gun hand thumb over the rear sights when pulling from the pocket to prevent snagging...

You may have to try a different brand/style of jeans with bigger pockets as sometimes it's better to dress around your gun rather than trying to make your gun work with what you are used to wearing....

I carry a PM40 with night sights in my right front pocket using a cheap Uncle Mikes pocket holster which for me works better than a drawer full of other more expensive pocket holsters I bought to try out and I can pull it pretty fast without any snagging at all so You should be able to clear your P380 without a problem too...

I am 5'11 180 lbs and found I like loose cut Wrangler jeans which have a little bit larger pocket than Levis...Main thing is to find the right holster and practice pulling your cleared/unloaded pistol until you get comfortable and truth be known if something were to cause you to need to pull your pistol on a bad guy you most likely won't even see the night sights at all and will tunnel vision on the trouble maker...

Good luck with that fine little .380 and if you have any questions or problems just ask away because there's a bunch of nice friendly, knowledgeable folks here that will be glad to help....Good luck...:yo:

[jocko]

no doubt what getsome stated is dead on and I also wentthrough the trial and error crapola with Wranger jeans and found that 505 brand had the deepest pockets thgat held my PM9 in a Uncle mikes with ease and was not to bad to get it out if needed. I have some haRLEY JEANS THAT just suck ass to hardly get the gun in the pocket evne, they just are not deep enough to hold the PM9 the way I want. Just sayin

[jocko]

I've heard that the slowest draw in the world is you removing your money clip from your pocket. :)

might have a point there.:popcorn:

[Charlie]

I am not trying to start a war,fiasco,fued,hard feelings, or any other negative response but, night sights on a DEFENSIVE firearm are like teets on a boar rooster, their useless. If you have enought time to aquire a sight picture at night, then in my opinion you have suffecient time to retire from the situation, unless their is no escape then the old point and shoot time tested method will take over and your night sights will look realy good when the da/ada attny. holds them up in court and explains to the jury of your peers why they are on there . Been there done that.

[bonjorno2]

you will be fine i don't have an issue with my pm40 either like mentioned above... night sights are for killing in the dark right? lmao

[Charlie]

you will be fine i don't have an issue with my pm40 either like mentioned above... night sights are for killing in the dark right? lmao

When you have sat thorugh or testified in numerous court cases you will not think its humorous. Night sights were developed for killing in the dark and then they were released into the civillian market. When and if you ever have to use your weapon in defense of life, your life will change forever. I never have seen laughter in a self defense case in over twent five years.

[josp]

So the fact that ALL cops guns have night sights would be an issue in court?

[jocko]

I am not trying to start a war,fiasco,fued,hard feelings, or any other negative response but, night sights on a DEFENSIVE firearm are like teets on a boar rooster, their useless. If you have enought time to aquire a sight picture at night, then in my opinion you have suffecient time to retire from the situation, unless their is no escape then the old point and shoot time tested method will take over and your night sights will look realy good when the da/ada attny. holds them up in court and explains to the jury of your peers why they are on there . Been there done that.

on, jury's ain't stupid either. Show me a case where night sights got a person convicted. Naw ain't buyin it:der:

[Charlie]

on, jury's ain't stupid either. Show me a case where night sights got a person convicted. Naw ain't buyin it:der:
Ok how about being convicted of manslaughter and spending 13 years in an Arizona prison for using your legal hand gun to defend yourself against a known felon.All because he used a 10mm glock. It took 13 years to get an apeal, and he didnt have night sights. You woulnd't believe what goes on in a court room when a anti gun judge overules , or excludes testimony and or evidence as inadmissable because of their prudjudice. Its no TV show boys and girls, its real life. How many cases have you been involved in?

[jocko]

b.s. but what do I know boys and girls..Just sayin

wow over 200 million guns in the cuntry and millions of gun owners and ur citing one case of which we realy are hearing just ur side even. U got me convinced, I am gonna take my night sights off and the powder out of my bullets even --boys and girls

IMO anytime u put a gun on ur body, u are assuming a liability that would never be,, had u not put that gun on ur body. Personally I wll take my chances with night sites in any court.

[josp]

Don't know what that case had to do with night sights, but I've been involved in several shooting cases. Never any mention of the sights, but that's just one mans experience. How about a case where the night sights were a factor in convicting an otherwise legal shoot? I'll need a case number and court/state to read the whole thing.
Thanks!

[jocko]

I was gonna mention that to but I felt it was not necessary, for most of the readers got the message one way or the utter. Hell we get judges every day that make sh!t decisions with other people's lives, doesn't make it right either but it is what it is,,,, an imperfect system, but I just don't buy the night sights as an object a D.A. would use in a case, as if so there has to be a whole lot of other better circumstances to the case to get any kind of conviction but to single out N.S. only, I just have my doubts. But again some of these judges come up with decisions that make no sense either and that is what we have appeals cases for. sure wouldnot deter me from owning night sights. Hell Sith even puts nights sights as stock on some of their wheel guns. Course 99% of us thought O.J was guilty to, so what the hell do we know. Just sayin

[Planedude]

Well! To bring this back on topic...:rolleyes:

Here is my trijicon sighted P380 ready for the ride-along. you will have to practice your pocket draw in the different pockets you might have to draw from. I find in jeans that I have to arch the back of my hand slightly to clear the gun (somewhat) smoothly from the pocket. Your draw will always be faster and smoother from the beltline.

If you pocket carry alot you will find yourself buying pants as much for their large strong pockets as for their striking great looks...
I wear alot of Dickies as they are a local company and their pockets are just that, large and strong.;)