Hogue Grip vs Talon Grips

[Gadgetnut259]

I love my new CM9 but the texture on the front and back of the factory grip is too sharp for my taste. I wanted something to cover it yet still give a secure purchase. I saw good reviews on the Hogue Handall Jr so I ordered one. I figured for $8 is was worth a try. When I put it on the gun and just held it around the house I thought I would like it. But after actually shooting with it on, I'm not so sure about it. The built-in finger groove and the palm swells on the sides add up to a fair amount of extra rubber. When I took it shooting it felt kind of squishy. It didn't move on the gun, but it felt like it was shifting slightly under pressure.
So now, I have decided to try Talon Grips (rubber) on the Kahr. Seems like it should cover the sharp areas without adding bulk. Has anyone here ever tried either/both of these? What we're your thoughts on them?

[340pd]

I have the Hogue mounted upside down on my PM9 and it stays put. I also have a Shield with rubberized Talons installed. The Hogues do need slight re-positioning from time to time. Overall I think the Talons are a great product. I have heard the sandpaper version are very abrasive on the hands as well as clothing. Try a set for $15. I think I will buy a set for my Kahr.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/gnystrom_photos/KahrHogue.jpg

[Bawanna]

I don't own a set but I like the looks of the Qwik Grip the best of all of them. People who own them have nothing but good to say about them too.

They just look clean and meant to be there to me.

[JERRY]

i dont have any rubber slip ons for my poly kahrs, but the only one id put one on is my PM45 but dont think that would help at all as i get a blister rub on my thumb knuckle where the rubber grip wouldnt cover anyway....

[Bawanna]

The knuckle hitting the slide or the frame. My thumbs don't hardly touch the gun. I did the woodburner stipple job on mine to tone down the grip surface. Had an innertube on for quite awhile. I like the stipple better.

We need to get you a camera so we can see some of this stuff. I'm just curious and inquisitive ya know?

[Gadgetnut259]

....Overall I think the Talons are a great product. I have heard the sandpaper version are very abrasive on the hands as well as clothing.
Yeah, I have heard that too. I carry IWB so those wouldn't be very comfortable for me. I think the rubber should be better. I'm anxious to get 'em and try them out.

[JERRY]

The knuckle hitting the slide or the frame. My thumbs don't hardly touch the gun. I did the woodburner stipple job on mine to tone down the grip surface. Had an innertube on for quite awhile. I like the stipple better.

We need to get you a camera so we can see some of this stuff. I'm just curious and inquisitive ya know?

im gonna post some cell phone pix i just took to show you what i mean...i rolled my thumb down so you could see the blister.

[TucsonMTB]

I don't own a set but I like the looks of the Qwik Grip the best of all of them. People who own them have nothing but good to say about them too.

They just look clean and meant to be there to me.
+1 . . . Very comfortable, even while shooting the dreaded "fotays" pictured below.

http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=103&pictureid=626

[Bawanna]

im gonna post some cell phone pix i just took to show you what i mean...

Look forward to it. Sometimes if we see the issue we can offer some help. Pictures worth 162 words and all that.

[JERRY]

pix are up.

there just no way around it unless i relearn how to hold a small semi-auto.

[kahrsport]

pearce grips are the best... yes i hear that you end up with a cw9 and 1/2inch less of barrel... but the pearce grip is very nice lookin and very comfortable...

i have the 7rd extended grip that came with mk9... terrible design by kahr, looks ugly and grip needs the whole plastic filled in on the mag instead of that zig line desgin (very uncomfortable)... pearce is the way to go...

[JFootin]

I love my new CM9 but the texture on the front and back of the factory grip is too sharp for my taste. I wanted something to cover it yet still give a secure purchase. I saw good reviews on the Hogue Handall Jr so I ordered one. I figured for $8 is was worth a try. When I put it on the gun and just held it around the house I thought I would like it. But after actually shooting with it on, I'm not so sure about it. The built-in finger groove and the palm swells on the sides add up to a fair amount of extra rubber. When I took it shooting it felt kind of squishy. It didn't move on the gun, but it felt like it was shifting slightly under pressure.
So now, I have decided to try Talon Grips (rubber) on the Kahr. Seems like it should cover the sharp areas without adding bulk. Has anyone here ever tried either/both of these? What we're your thoughts on them?

I have a set of Traction Grips. Haven't put them on, yet. But I got some hockey tape, which is woven cloth on the outside. It is just the right width to cover the cheese graters. So I cut two strips of it sized to cover the front and back graters. Pressed down, you can still see the bumps, but they don't bite anymore. The color of it perfectly matches the frame, so it is hard to see it is even there.

I have been using a Qwik-Grip size 3 on my CM9, and it is certainly nice. I love the sure grip you get from real leather. I can grab my gun there with just my fingertips and I have never dropped it. It doesn't have finger grooves or palm swells, so the additional width is minimal. The slight additional width front to back is a plus, IMO. In fact, I am thinking about shaping something up that can go underneath it to add onto the backstrap for some increase in trigger finger reach. It moves very slightly and might need a tiny adjustment after a range trip. I haven't tried the hairspray trick to make it stay put, yet. It is certainly comfortable and fits the PM/CM guns perfectly.

That said, the extra width and tackiness of the rubber can be noticeable against your side in some holsters. I am going to try the Traction Grips on the sides, keeping the hockey tape on the front and back, and see if I can get that sure handling of rubber without the extra width and maybe with less tackiness. I'll let y'all know how it turns out. Heck, I can always put the Qwik-Grip back on if I don't like the change, and the Traction Grips will probably help keep it in place.

[bonjorno2]

let me get that talon grips off you! lol, I use a hogue grip on my pm40 and traction grips or talon grips for the 9's.

[JimC]

I have found that a small piece of bicycle inner tube works the best for me on my PM9.

It gives just the right amnount of "traction" if you will for a secure grip on the little PM9 frame.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/KobraCarry/Kahr%20PM9/IMG_0731.jpg

[JFootin]

let me get that talon grips off you! lol, I use a hogue grip on my pm40 and traction grips or talon grips for the 9's.

Well, I plan on using it when I get around to it. Funny, I used to have a ROUND METAL pin that said:

A
ROUND
TUIT

But now I can't find it and I can't seem to... get around... to looking for it. :rolleyes:

[bonjorno2]

lol

[downtownv]

im gonna post some cell phone pix i just took to show you what i mean...i rolled my thumb down so you could see the blister.

Ouch, that kinda takes the fun out of shooting it!

[PYROhafe]

+1 for the talon rubber! Put one on my cm9, and absolutly love it! Keeps a great grip, and cushions the beating my hands were taking before. Im pretty sure Ill put a talon rubber on any gun a buy in the future!

[Brent]

+1 for the talon rubber! Put one on my cm9, and absolutly love it! Keeps a great grip, and cushions the beating my hands were taking before. Im pretty sure Ill put a talon rubber on any gun a buy in the future!

Good to hear. I've got one of those ordered for my P40.

[Yogi 117]

+1 for the talon rubber! Put one on my cm9, and absolutly love it! Keeps a great grip, and cushions the beating my hands were taking before. Im pretty sure Ill put a talon rubber on any gun a buy in the future!
Amen to that. Just put the rubberized Talon Grips on my CM9 & Glock26 & love the feel. Haven't shot them yet, but that's just a formality. The grip & feel is terrific. No more gripping the "Cheese Grater" when firing the CM9. :D

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k596/jdud77777/AAATalonGrips_zps4731f64a.jpg

[kwilly]

I'll second the inner tube idea on the CM9. Less than $5 at Wal-Mart for the tube and the cheese graters are gone! It's a bonus that it doesn't bulk up the grip either.

kwilly

[n9znd]

I did the inner tube Idea. I also added finger grooves. I used a couple of hair ties from my Grand Daughter. I also tried just cutting thin strips of the inner tube to get the feel that I would like. But the little hair ties has worked the best. I have shot a steel match's and a couple of IDPA match's and I do not have reposition my hand at all,It has a very positive feel now. Jim
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/n9znd/688BA620-D7A9-461F-A15D-53537133C1BA-2281-0000033F1CC6671D.jpg

[jeepster09]

;)
I did the inner tube Idea. I also added finger grooves. I used a couple of hair ties from my Grand Daughter. I also tried just cutting thin strips of the inner tube to get the feel that I would like. But the little hair ties has worked the best. I have shot a steel match's and a couple of IDPA match's and I do not have reposition my hand at all,It has a very positive feel now. Jim
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/n9znd/688BA620-D7A9-461F-A15D-53537133C1BA-2281-0000033F1CC6671D.jpg

Great idea! I do not like the Talons because they look far to abrasive, I wear "tucked in the waistband" and I think all my skin would be gone at the end of the day with them.

[JFootin]

;)

Great idea! I do not like the Talons because they look far to abrasive, I wear "tucked in the waistband" and I think all my skin would be gone at the end of the day with them.

I may have to try the inner tube idea. There is a high end bike shop in my town. I'm going to go by there and see if I can talk them into giving me an old one. I want it thin and, like you, I don't want something abrasive. In an earlier post, I talked about the Qwik-Grip being a little uncomfortable against my side with some holsters. The positive grip is great, but I imagine the smooth inner tube will still provide plenty of grip.

A little side note: I scrapped a set of Traction Grips to put little thin strips between the ridges on my slide serrations. (Sorry, I don't have pictures yet.) When the slide was mirror polished, the serrations got polished, too, making them hard to grip. So, a little enhancement. It looks kinda cool, too! :D

[Gadgetnut259]

When you guys talk about the Talon Grips being too abrasive, I assume you're talking about the original version that is basically like skateboard grip tape...right? I can't imagine that the new rubber style Talons are that abrasive.

[n9znd]

Get a 1 3/8' tube. The tighter the better. If you get a 1.125" or something bigger it may slip. It will be harder to work with but will stay put. I just rolled the edges and put my humps in after it was on. Jim

[Bawanna]

I found that it helps to have a nice clean cut when shaping it prior to install. The slightest jagged edge and it will tear.

I didn't have much difficulty putting it on, far less than I expected anyhow.

I didn't use anything, hairspray etc and didn't even wash the thing. Stayed put the whole time it was on there.

[hardluk1]

I used an old 1.75 mountain bike tube our shop had. You still have to streatch the heck out of it and it works great. I tried a smaller tube and could not get it on. I have had extra tube for years and still gave some to most guys I know.

[n9znd]

Great suggestion, sir. As an avid cyclist and a cheap skate, I have used "ghetto grips" made from inner tubes for years, especially on low end Kel-Tec's. Since they are free for the asking . . . get several sizes. Depending on the brand and material used to make them, your fit may vary quite a bit.

Oh, and I think your "grooves" using hair bands look really neat! Thanks for the suggestion. With your "grooves" installed, I may have to stop calling them "ghetto grips". http://home.mindspring.com/~justsomeguy/icon_lol.gif

I thought you was a biker. I raced MTB for a while after I blew both knees out racing BMX. I am back to Racing BMX again off and on.

I love the way my Rubber grip cover turned out. With one inner tube you can afford to try many different ways without breaking the bank. When you buy a Kahr I would think you bought because of being thin. Not sure why people add real think palm swells and finger extensions. I had a CM9 which I loved but wanted a little more control Because I shoot the He!! out of it. So I got a CW9. Thanks Jim

[PYROhafe]

When you guys talk about the Talon Grips being too abrasive, I assume you're talking about the original version that is basically like skateboard grip tape...right? I can't imagine that the new rubber style Talons are that abrasive.

I would think so... I dont find the rubber one to be overly abrasive against skin.

[socialwork911]

anyone with grips for the p380? that fit :) show your pics

[PYROhafe]

anyone with grips for the p380? that fit :) show your pics

Actually just got a set of Talon rubber grips in the mail today, but the p380 isn't here yet, so I cant put any pics up. Ill get some up when it gets here. (I was serious about getting talons for any gun I buy in the future)

[socialwork911]

+1 . . . Very comfortable, even while shooting the dreaded "fotays" pictured below.

http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=103&pictureid=626
who makes quik grips..can't find the co on google?

[JFootin]

who makes quik grips..can't find the co on google?

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=84

[socialwork911]

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=84
didn't see LW have them for the 380?

[socialwork911]

Actually just got a set of Talon rubber grips in the mail today, but the p380 isn't here yet, so I cant put any pics up. Ill get some up when it gets here. (I was serious about getting talons for any gun I buy in the future)
are those the talons that Kahr sells for the 380?....I may try the rubber tube idea first....but first up is getting my 380 back and making sure it works..I'm such in a rush:eek:

[JFootin]

didn't see LW have them for the 380?

Sorry. Forgot you have a P380. The size 3 fits my CM9, so you would probably need to trim it a bit.