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OnTheSide
10-08-2012, 07:40 PM
I bought a new CM9 and have taken it to the range a few times. The trigger pull was a little hard to get used to, but I'm hitting fine now at 15 yards. The gun has been very reliable with only a couple of FTFs with Walmart Federal. The only question I have is why I cannot seem to charge the weapon by racking the slide "normally". The first round almost always hangs in the mag (or something). Dropping the slide down from the locked position always works. I've never had this problem with my XD45, or Ruger 1911. It's not an operational issue in my mind, just unexpected.

Any advice?

ISULarry
10-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Kahr says you should lock the slide back and use the release to charge it and not to slingshot the weapon. I found I wasn't able to slingshot my CM9 at first but after a couple hundred rounds I can without any trouble.

Larry

Path4
10-08-2012, 08:08 PM
"Q. My firearm fails to chamber the first round when I pull back the slide and release it. What is wrong?

A. It is likely you are either failing to pull the slide fully back or you are riding the slide as you release it. We recommend that you lock back the slide, insert the magazine, and release the slide with the slide stop. This will require that you carry a load in the chamber for self defense purposes. However, the passive safety system will prevent the pistol from firing unless the trigger is pulled, even if the gun is dropped. If you would prefer not to carry a round in the chamber, you may remove a round from the magazine. This alters the angle of the bullet and will allow it to chamber even if you ride the slide."

From Kahr faq: http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp#q10

After break in my cm9 seems to not mind slingshotting, but ima stick with and always train using the slide stop lever.

P.S. - Id recommend checking out the "Proper prep of new Kahr" and "Proper lube points" topics in the Kahr Tech section of the forum

muggsy
10-08-2012, 08:36 PM
My CM9 will chamber a round by either method. You can't ride the slide and must use the proper slingshot method. See the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjLbFOw8sow&feature=channel&list=UL

jocko
10-08-2012, 08:36 PM
I bought a new CM9 and have taken it to the range a few times. The trigger pull was a little hard to get used to, but I'm hitting fine now at 15 yards. The gun has been very reliable with only a couple of FTFs with Walmart Federal. The only question I have is why I cannot seem to charge the weapon by racking the slide "normally". The first round almost always hangs in the mag (or something). Dropping the slide down from the locked position always works. I've never had this problem with my XD45, or Ruger 1911. It's not an operational issue in my mind, just unexpected.

Any advice?

PRACTICE DOES NOT MAKE PERFECT, BUT PERFECT PRACTICE DOES. keep atit and shoot it more and the recoil springs will take their designed set and hand racking will start to come around. kAHRS HAVE VERY STRONG RECOIL SPRINGS, It takes awhile to get the hang of hand racking. Use the slide release until u get good at it but IMO use um both ways to. Ur not doing anything more wrong than most of the new owners who have never had a samll ass handgun with such stout recoil springs.. The two guns u mentioned are alot more weapon to to get a hand around, Just sayin

bonjorno2
10-08-2012, 09:07 PM
i can rack my pm40 with a much heavier spring, thanks jocko it fixed the ftb on my blunt nose, and my cm9 which is almost brand new... it's important to practice not riding it forward and i also locked my cm9 to the rear ever chance I get to help with the spring!

JFootin
10-08-2012, 09:15 PM
To make sure you get it all the way back and don't ride it forward, pull it so hard that your hand flies off the back when the slide stops. A continuous motion that doesn't stop, like a Judo chop.

Alfonse
10-08-2012, 09:18 PM
To make sure you get it all the way back and don't ride it forward, pull it so hard that your hand flies off the back when the slide stops. A continuous motion that doesn't stop, like a Judo chop.

Really, like a Judo chop. Reminds me of something Maxwell Smart might say. :)

JFootin
10-08-2012, 10:35 PM
Really, like a Judo chop. Reminds me of something Maxwell Smart might say. :)

Well, if you are going to Judo chop a 2x4, you'd better power through it like the board isn't there. If you power through when racking the slide, it will go all the way back and stop. And your hand, which is powering through the stroke, will separate from the slide and keep going. The other plus is that your hand is not riding the slide as it releases. Like jocko says, "PRACTICE DOES NOT MAKE PERFECT, BUT PERFECT PRACTICE DOES." Practice my method and you will achieve perfection, grasshopper. :cool:

muggsy
10-09-2012, 06:41 AM
To make sure you get it all the way back and don't ride it forward, pull it so hard that your hand flies off the back when the slide stops. A continuous motion that doesn't stop, like a Judo chop.

I'm more into pork and lamb chops, but then that's another topic for another day. :)

hcdogman
10-09-2012, 07:19 AM
To make sure you get it all the way back and don't ride it forward, pull it so hard that your hand flies off the back when the slide stops. A continuous motion that doesn't stop, like a Judo chop.

Probably more akin to a properly executed "judie chop".

Path4
10-09-2012, 10:57 AM
http://us13.memecdn.com/Ninjin_o_144119.jpg

hcdogman
10-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Oh yeah...:D

OnTheSide
10-09-2012, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the posts. I carry the CM9 chambered anyway, so I wasn't concerned about it. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't me...but it was. My first small handgun.