pm9 gun prep

[badfl97]

picking up my new pm 9 this week!!! Where can i find the gun prep thread???

[wyntrout]

Welcome to the forum. Look under the new member section and the newcomer welcome and links. The sub-forum under this one... General Discussion.

Wynn:)

[jocko]

picking up my new pm 9 this week!!! Where can i find the gun prep thread???

to kahr tech section

Propper preppingof ur kahr


also Kahr lube chart


general discussion. New member section

[wyntrout]

And, by all means, watch the take down video before taking the pistol apart! It's easier than reading the manual, but there are a lot of answers to possible questions in the manual... and the F.A.Q.'s at Kahr.com. You can "pre-read" the manual online and download it, too.

Wynn:)

[ltxi]

Gun prep. Huh. Whatever happened to just shooting a new handgun right out of the box? Kinda seems to me like feeling it necessary to change the oil in a new truck before driving it.

[jocko]

then don't do it, shoot it out of the box, probalby OK, no one says ONE HAS TO DO ANYTHING.. Not sure ur comparison is a comparison, but if I owned a new truck I certainly would check to see that it had oil in the engine...

we know most all kahrs are good to go out of the box, but we also know we have seen some with alot of crapola in the striker channel etc that should have been out of there before shipping it. Most all stuff on the kahr prep site are merely SUGGESTIONS

Were all just trying to make that first shoot for a new owner a successful one,but again nuttin is setin stone... I have owned many guns over the years and I assume nuttin when I take it out of the box:banplease:

[ltxi]

Guess I'm gettin' old then. Understand checking the obvious but other than that have never felt the need to half way rehab a new, quality firearm before running a few rounds through it. Three of the last five handguns I've purchased were from an LGS with a range. Took them out and fired them for something productive to do while the shop was still running the background check.

Would you actually check the oil in a new truck first, before driving it home from the dealer?

[Yogi 117]

picking up my new pm 9 this week!!! Where can i find the gun prep thread???
Like jocko says, it's a personal preference. I just purchased a new CM9 one month ago today, and brought it home and followed the prep section to a T & had a perfect first range trip, firing 200's FMJ & 50 JHP's. Totally up to you, but why not follow the advice of the Kahr forum members who have given their expertise. YMMV! Enjoy your new family member! :D

[Bawanna]

Guess I'm gettin' old then. Understand checking the obvious but other than that have never felt the need to half way rehab a new, quality firearm before running a few rounds through it. Three of the last five handguns I've purchased were from an LGS with a range. Took them out and fired them for something productive to do while the shop was still running the background check.

Would you actually check the oil in a new truck first, before driving it home from the dealer?

I've never owned a new car but I worked for a fence company, my first real job. Owner bought a new 73 Chevy 1 ton cab and chassis. Told me to check all fluids. Thought I did but he asked about the rear differential. Checked it and there was no fluid. Never was filled.

Guess it happens in the car industry too.

[muggsy]

Guess I'm gettin' old then. Understand checking the obvious but other than that have never felt the need to half way rehab a new, quality firearm before running a few rounds through it. Three of the last five handguns I've purchased were from an LGS with a range. Took them out and fired them for something productive to do while the shop was still running the background check.

Would you actually check the oil in a new truck first, before driving it home from the dealer?

Apparently your not that old. I can remember when every new car had a break in period. Usually about 2000 miles. The new engines came from the factory with break in oil. Kahr pistols are very tight when new. The parts need to wear in for the gun to operate smoothly. You don't have to follow the suggestions offered. It's your gun and it's up to you. Be sure to let us know if you have any problems. We can all use a good laugh.

[jocko]

Guess I'm gettin' old then. Understand checking the obvious but other than that have never felt the need to half way rehab a new, quality firearm before running a few rounds through it. Three of the last five handguns I've purchased were from an LGS with a range. Took them out and fired them for something productive to do while the shop was still running the background check.

Would you actually check the oil in a new truck first, before driving it home from the dealer?

argument from me. I feel kahrs like most allother guns are good to go out of the box. We see that all the time, probably less on this forum than the general buying public who knows nuttin aout this forum either. So probably most here do pay some attention to the SUGGESTIONS given for preparing ones firearm. Its probably is not needed in most cases, but again what harm does it possably do. When I drove my audi off the lot, I indeed checked the oil. worked for a livin in a tire shop where we did lube work all the time. To me it was second nature.

Again though it is an individual choice, not worth gettin into a pissin contest over it, one way or the utter. Just sayin

If u ever was on the kel tek forum. I think the phrase FLUFF AND BUFF and rampectomy started there. It sure saved alot of grief to new owners,myself included.

[les strat]

Gun prep. Huh. Whatever happened to just shooting a new handgun right out of the box? Kinda seems to me like feeling it necessary to change the oil in a new truck before driving it.

New cars have a break-in period where you are supposed to keep the rpm's/speed under a certain level and change the break-in oil at a certain interval. Most manufacturers state this blatantly in the manual.

I had a discussion with a GI Joe wannabe on the AR.15 forum who was bashing Kahrs. He said they were all POS and that his dad stopped selling them because they had FTFeeds and slide lockback problems. He stated the OP needed to buy a "real" handgun, like the Sig P238 (which has had more than its share of problems). I compared the Kahr break-in of 200 rounds to how many people break-in and slick up their 1911's. He said that was BS. All I know is that my CM9 has gotten better and better the more rounds that go downrange and that Kahr recommends the 200 rounds before carrying. If I didn't trust it, I promise, I wouldn't carry it and would move it quickly.

These little firearms nowadays have such tight tolerances and small parts, it only makes sense to slick them up and work the springs some. It only helps.

I wouldn't carry a wepaon that has not had a couple hundred through it anyway.

[Barth]

New cars have a break-in period where you are supposed to keep the rpm's/speed under a certain level and change the break-in oil at a certain interval. Most manufacturers state this blatantly in the manual.

I had a discussion with a GI Joe wannabe on the AR.15 forum who was bashing Kahrs. He said they were all POS and that his dad stopped selling them because they had FTFeeds and slide lockback problems. He stated the OP needed to buy a "real" handgun, like the Sig P238 (which has had more than its share of problems). I compared the Kahr break-in of 200 rounds to how many people break-in and slick up their 1911's. He said that was BS. All I know is that my CM9 has gotten better and better the more rounds that go downrange and that Kahr recommends the 200 rounds before carrying. If I didn't trust it, I promise, I wouldn't carry it and would move it quickly.

These little firearms nowadays have such tight tolerances and small parts, it only makes sense to slick them up and work the springs some. It only helps.

I wouldn't carry a wepaon that has not had a couple hundred through it anyway.

+1
My MK40 actually took 400 to totally break in.
A 100% reliable, drop dead accurate, 3.0" 40 isn't an easy thing to produce.
Tight tolerances and heavy RSAs almost seem like requirements.

Full size, or even compact, guns seem to be much more forgiving in design
and spring requirements to be reliable.

I too will not carry anything without getting 200 trouble free rounds with SD ammo.
I've had too many so called reliable guns choke at the range.
My bone stock Glock G27, with OEM G33 barrel and mags, will not run GDHPs.
Better embarrassed at the range than dead on the street.

In the spirit of Jocko;
I'm just saying

[jocko]

New cars have a break-in period where you are supposed to keep the rpm's/speed under a certain level and change the break-in oil at a certain interval. Most manufacturers state this blatantly in the manual.

I had a discussion with a GI Joe wannabe on the AR.15 forum who was bashing Kahrs. He said they were all POS and that his dad stopped selling them because they had FTFeeds and slide lockback problems. He stated the OP needed to buy a "real" handgun, like the Sig P238 (which has had more than its share of problems). I compared the Kahr break-in of 200 rounds to how many people break-in and slick up their 1911's. He said that was BS. All I know is that my CM9 has gotten better and better the more rounds that go downrange and that Kahr recommends the 200 rounds before carrying. If I didn't trust it, I promise, I wouldn't carry it and would move it quickly.

These little firearms nowadays have such tight tolerances and small parts, it only makes sense to slick them up and work the springs some. It only helps.

I wouldn't carry a wepaon that has not had a couple hundred through it anyway.

read other gun forums like I used to but I tend to not put much thought into anything when a poster cvomes on a forum and bashs anuter product. We never know why etc they say what they do. I call them trolls, u call them what ever u want.

U buy a gun and it works great then it is a super gun, if not it is a POS, doesn't matter what brand it is either..

[ltxi]

Apparently your not that old.....Be sure to let us know if you have any problems. We can all use a good laugh.

Ya know...caustic, personal sniping really ain't very nice.

[badfl97]

Thanks everyone!!!

[ltxi]

Thanks everyone!!!

Sorry 'bout this. Most threads asking for help don't take this kinda twist. Welcome to the forum!

[jocko]

indeed welcome..

[skiflydive]

Just speaking for myself I thought the clean, lube, prep routine was a great way to learn about my new gun. No doubt I could have taken it out of the box and gone blamity, blamity, blam with it but IMHO there's a lot more to owning a firearm than just shooting it. My $.02

Welcome to the forum.

[muggsy]

Ya know...caustic, personal sniping really ain't very nice.

Bad mouthing the suggestions of forum members or Kahr products on this forum isn't nice either. You invite someone into your home you don't expect him to crap in your living room.

[ltxi]

You are a very angry, intolerant person.

[LorenzoB]

Fire it out of the box, or take it down and lube it and check stuff. Either way you want it is your choice. I advocate to do the prep. Why? Because you learn the tool you may eventually bet your life on. Why? Because it is assembled by humans, and sometimes we make mistakes. Better to catch a simple mistake before going to the range. Why, I ask? Why not, it only takes a few minutes and there are benefits. So if you are one to think any gun, or any other product for that matter, should be perfect out of the box and never have any issues ever, then I feel you should re-evaluate the world we live in. Why is this even a discussion still? The prep stuff is just a good suggestion any way. No one ever said you need to do it. We only say it is a good idea for the best results at the first range trip.

[LorenzoB]

Welcome badfl97!

Itxi,
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Fire it out of the box, or take it down and lube it and check stuff. Either way you want it is your choice. I advocate to do the prep. Why? Because you learn the tool you may eventually bet your life on. Why? Because guns are assembled by humans, and sometimes we make mistakes. Better to catch a simple mistake before going to the range. Why, I ask? Why not, it only takes a few minutes and there are benefits. So if you are one to think any gun, or any other product for that matter, should be perfect out of the box and never have any issues ever, then I feel you should re-evaluate the world we live in. Why is this even a discussion still? The prep stuff is just a good suggestion any way. No one ever said you need to do it. We only say it is a good idea for the best results at the first range trip. I would prep any new gun before the first range trip and I would encourage others to do the same.

[ltxi]

Good grief....all I was sayin' is that a quality handgun should be shootable right out of the box.

My most used LGS has a range. He gives me the option when I'm buying gun to run a few mags/cylinders through it while I'm waiting for the background check to clear. So then I know it's basically functional...then take it home, field strip it and clean it while looking for any odd wear patterns/marks, etc.

Anything else gets taken home and at least closely looked over before being fired.

Didn't ever say anyone ought to bet their life on a brand new, never before fired gun.

[LorenzoB]

Good grief....all I was sayin' is that a quality handgun should be shootable right out of the box.

My most used LGS has a range. He gives me the option when I'm buying gun to run a few mags/cylinders through it while I'm waiting for the background check to clear. So then I know it's basically functional...then take it home, field strip it and clean it while looking for any odd wear patterns/marks, etc.

Anything else gets taken home and at least closely looked over before being fired.

Didn't ever say anyone ought to bet their life on a brand new, never before fired gun.

I see that now, BUT it initially looked like you were being sarcastic the way you were discounting the good advise of other members. It sounds like you "prep" or "check" your guns too when you get them home. If you have a range at your LGS and they let you shoot while the background check is going through, then shoot! I would! Except I don't think he would like me hanging out there for 10 days! :D

And you are right, ALL handguns are supposed to be shootable out of the box. ;)

[ltxi]

Thanks. Didn't mean to diss or offend anyone. I also come at this with the comfortable perspective of someone who's been handling/using/carrying firearms for well over 50 years and is familiar with more than a few manuals of arms. If you're new to this game..don't listen to me.