2012 Election Gun Politics...I No Longer Care

[ltxi]

Well, I actually do, but I've already voted so I can pretend not to and now just watch the rest of the campaign(s) with amusement. :yo:

[AJBert]

This'll be the first presidential election I'll be able to step into the booth and vote in quite awhile. Between spending many years overseas or hunting I've been an early or absentee voter since...

I think '92 or '96??? Maybe it was '84, when I was first old enough to vote? I forget.

[7shot]

I'm torn about our current president...on one hand I admire the way kills terrist (especially the way he does it) but I'm scared about his 2nd amendment issues. Kinda funny, he doesn't mind using weapons to kill but he objects to u.s. citizens rights and protecting themselves. :confused: And the Fast and Furious scandal, sounds somewhat similar to the Iran Contra back with Reagon.

And Romney, well, he says he's for the 2nd amendment but I'm not so sure. I think he won't do anything that's going to harm what we've gained. And I think he's the better of the two to get this budget crisis fixed, or at least the right direction.

[Bawanna]

Wow! Torn? The debates on here right now, go watch.

I can't think of one single thing I like about him, I even think his dogs ugly and it came from Ted, poor dog.

Not far to go though and it'll all be over, good or bad. I'm going to my man cave now, I watch Biden / Ryan but I can't stand looking at the Kenyon.

[muggsy]

I'm torn about our current president...on one hand I admire the way kills terrist (especially the way he does it) but I'm scared about his 2nd amendment issues. Kinda funny, he doesn't mind using weapons to kill but he objects to u.s. citizens rights and protecting themselves. :confused: And the Fast and Furious scandal, sounds somewhat similar to the Iran Contra back with Reagon.

And Romney, well, he says he's for the 2nd amendment but I'm not so sure. I think he won't do anything that's going to harm what we've gained. And I think he's the better of the two to get this budget crisis fixed, or at least the right direction.

Iran Contra was a little different. Reagan circumvented congress to arm freedom fighters, not drug cartels. And Reagan wasn't doing so through U.S. gun dealers to promote anti-gun laws.

[muggsy]

I plan on voting for Romney early and often. I'll vote For him early in Cleveland and then jet down to my retreat in Boca and vote for him again in the evening. :) (Just kidding, CrabbyAzz.)

[johnh]

Well all of my deceased relatives were Democrats, so I suspect they will be voting for Obama. :)

[sierrajb]

Did you find yourself gritting your teeth or clinching your fist when Romney was facing off with Obummer?

[les strat]

I thought Romney had the perfect opportunity to wave the 2A flag last night when BO started talking bans, soprting, and AK47's. The 2A is not for hunting, It is not for SD. It is for the people to protect themselves from the government and any threat to our liberty, foreign or domestic... police state. tyranny, rioting. A well armed militia. Is that too hard for these morons to swallow?

I am glad Romney pointed out the difference in a SA and fully automatic version of AK's. It doesn't matter though. "Assault rifles" look scary. That's all that matters to them.

I am about ready for the gloves to come off and Romeny to start hitting below the belt and exposing the real shady side (all sides) of our joker in office. All the scandals, coer-ups, civil liberty stripping, 1A and 2A infringement. Republicans play too nice and take way too many blows without retaliation. The country believes all the BS BO spews (most of his answers last night were total BS).

Worst president ever. There are still enough smart people out there. Maybe.

[tv_racin_fan]

I thought Romney had the perfect opportunity to wave the 2A flag last night when BO started talking bans, soprting, and AK47's. The 2A is not for hunting, It is not for SD. It is for the people to protect themselves from the government and any threat to our liberty, foreign or domestic... police state. tyranny, rioting. A well armed militia. Is that too hard for these morons to swallow?

Well except he doesn't believe that to be the case.

I am glad Romney pointed out the difference in a SA and fully automatic version of AK's. It doesn't matter though. "Assault rifles" look scary. That's all that matters to them.

Didn't he claim that full auto firearms are not legal?

I am about ready for the gloves to come off and Romeny to start hitting below the belt and exposing the real shady side (all sides) of our joker in office. All the scandals, coer-ups, civil liberty stripping, 1A and 2A infringement. Republicans play too nice and take way too many blows without retaliation. The country believes all the BS BO spews (most of his answers last night were total BS).

Worst president ever. There are still enough smart people out there. Maybe.

Mitt Romney is rather proud of the bill in Mass that made their assault weapon ban permanent. He doesn't believe that the normal citizen has any use for such firearms. In his defence an assault weapon ban was going to go thru the Mass legislature and was going to have enough support to over ride his veto.

[CrabbyAzz]

I plan on voting for Romney early and often. I'll vote For him early in Cleveland and then jet down to my retreat in Boca and vote for him again in the evening. :) (Just kidding, CrabbyAzz.)

Boca is nice this time of year!!!

[chrish]

Romney is not a friend of the 2A, not for it's purpose at least. I'm not saying don't vote for him. It's the lesser of two evils yet again. But on the 2A front, he is just about as dangerous and 2A stupid and unfriendly as Obama.

Also once again, I'm torn between voting for the constitution or voting for the 'anybody other than...' value. It makes me sick to my stomach once again who I have to pick between (and Obama is NOT one of my choices).

[ltxi]

.....and I just dropped off my wife's ballot today. Now we can both pretend not to care.

In large block letters on the outside wall next to the main entrance of our Town of Parker, CO town hall......

THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY...RESIDES IN THE PEOPLE..

James Madison

Where else you gonna see that...I love this place

[Bawanna]

Is the house next door available. I want to be your neighbor.

[HalfCocked]

Several times I've heard Obama say we need gun control. He usually sites Chicago saying there are too many Saturday Night Specials and people are killing each other with illegal weapons. No one seems to ask how that happens in the one state that does not allow weapon carry in any form and is already one of the toughest states in the Union on guns. If they can't make it work there why try it any where else? ... Take the 2 cents out of my account.......

[ltxi]

Gun control is good. Without it, all you've got is spray 'n pray.

Sorry, kinda....maybe not. :rolleyes:

I do feel for and support the oppressed.

[muggsy]

Romney is not a friend of the 2A, not for it's purpose at least. I'm not saying don't vote for him. It's the lesser of two evils yet again. But on the 2A front, he is just about as dangerous and 2A stupid and unfriendly as Obama.

Also once again, I'm torn between voting for the constitution or voting for the 'anybody other than...' value. It makes me sick to my stomach once again who I have to pick between (and Obama is NOT one of my choices).

Correction, Romney wasn't a friend of the 2A, but he has mended his ways. A lot of people are liberal when they are young, but are smart enough to become conservative as they mature. I'd rather cast a vote for someone who is somewhat for me than for someone who is totally against me. This country had better awaken quickly, because freedom once lost is seldom regained.

[muggsy]

Gun control is good. Without it, all you've got is spray 'n pray.

Sorry, kinda....maybe not. :rolleyes:

I do feel for and support the oppressed.

If you feel for the oppressed that's another good reason to vote against socialism. As Kennedy said, "A rising tide floats all boats." Bring down the rich and you bring down the poor as well.

[troutkiller]

Both these guys, in their heart of hearts, are anti-gun. Fortunately, state and local politics still trump national politics on this issue for the most part.

[chrish]

Correction, Romney wasn't a friend of the 2A, but he has mended his ways. A lot of people are liberal when they are young, but are smart enough to become conservative as they mature. I'd rather cast a vote for someone who is somewhat for me than for someone who is totally against me. This country had better awaken quickly, because freedom once lost is seldom regained.

Not buying his act. Again, not saying he's not the lesser of evils this time around. Not saying I think he's got some hidden agenda either and that he's lying. He's uneducated about the 2A and it's purpose. He's uneducated about gun laws that do exist. Uneducated = dangerous and able to be swayed by other arguments. He's weak on it at best, period.

I'll believe he's changed his ways when I see it. Last time he had any power, he went along w/ gun control. It's all lip service at this point. If he's elected, we'll see. If he starts pushing national right to carry, works to permanently put to bed the unconstitutionality of any type of an 'assault' weapons ban, then maybe I'll buy the 'changed man' bit.

He just left MA in 2007, I don't really think he's gotten 'older and wiser' since then. He was already old enough to be as conservative as he's gonna get and it's only been 5 years.

Just sayin'

[HalfCocked]

I have to agree with CHRISH. I don't trust or like either of them. Romney has a strong anti gun background and lied about being a life long member of the NRA. The other guy is just as bad. I think it becomes more important to elect strong 2A people to Congress. The only hope is to keep the Executive branch in check.

[Bawanna]

I'm just glad it will be over in a couple weeks, I don't know weather to feel optimistic or not but I know I've seen enough mud slinging and campaigning to last me well over another 4 years.

My ballot showed up yesterday in the mail, I know I don't have to study, my mind is made up on all accounts, local and federal.

Can't wait to getting back to talking about stuff we like like guns and ammo and shooting and well guns and ammo and shooting, and Jocko's biker chicks and important stuff ya know.

[chrish]

I'm just glad it will be over in a couple weeks, I don't know weather to feel optimistic or not but I know I've seen enough mud slinging and campaigning to last me well over another 4 years.

My ballot showed up yesterday in the mail, I know I don't have to study, my mind is made up on all accounts, local and federal.

Can't wait to getting back to talking about stuff we like like guns and ammo and shooting and well guns and ammo and shooting, and Jocko's biker chicks and important stuff ya know.

You and me both Bawanna. I banned myself from TV debates, internet politics, and face-to-face conversations on the subject. I've been 'dragged in' on a couple of occasions on the conversation side, but I'm doing pretty well on the other two fronts.

I'm still torn with 2 weeks to go on voting my libertarian conscious or voting for Romney. I'm in a battleground state, so it's going to be a tough call. One throws my vote away but helps me sleep better and makes a statement, albeit a small one.

I figure, either way the election goes, one of two things I'll be doing that following week. Buying another gun, buying more ammo, or both.

[HalfCocked]

chrish, do a google search on "throwing your vote away". You will find a lot of good arguments that there is no such thing. IF it lets you sleep better, then I say vote for who ever you want. Sometimes even a small voice can be heard. (just not by me, I have hearing problems.:D )

[Bawanna]

Anything but a vote for Romney is a vote for Obummer. It's that simple.
Romney actually did the right thing last election and withdrew so as not to take away votes from McCain. That was a man thing to do, not enough to save us 4 years of spiraling and circling the drain but it was the right thing to do.

I love the way the media is twisting their opinion polls around right before the election. His ratings are improving.

Can't think of one good thing he's done but more and more people approve of it.

[JFootin]

Joe Biden's latest: "There's Never Been A Day In The Last Four Years I've Been Proud To Be His Vice President"

Bill Clinton: "I might be the only one who thinks this way, but I think Obama's plan..."

Even they are jumping off that sinking ship!

[wyntrout]

Empty gestures like voting a third party or a protest vote won't help us get rid of this Marxist-Socialist, Anti-Gun, anti-fossil-fuel, anti-business, anti-US Constitution, and anti-Capitalist who seeks to lower our might and prestige in the world as he furthers his plan to punish America for her colonial past misdeeds. He wants the economy to fail so he can enforce his own rule on our nation. His "regulators" are waiting until after this election to release a flood of anti-property rights, anti-business, and anti-Capitalist regulations to cost us millions more jobs and truly crush our economy.

Any vote but for Romney is effectively a vote for the continued RULE of Obama with increasing executive fiats, by-passing Congress and allowing him to install one or more Liberal Supreme Court Justices to start making our US Constitution totally irrelevant!

Wynn:(

[johnk568]

Howdy,

During the debate, Romney stated something about the AWB in Mass. He signed a bill that both the gun control groups & gun lover groups agreed too. I have to believe that he did this because both goups had written the bill presented to him. I don't think that makes him for gun control. Like alot of people said, they don't trust him, I agree, he needs to be watched carefully, but I'd rather have him putting in 2/3 SCOTUS judges than Obama.

jkrzos

[QuercusMax]

I've already voted a few times myself and it's not even election day yet.

[Bawanna]

I've thought about wacking myself so I could place a few more votes for my country. Hate the thought of being labeled a democRAT though.

Pride is worth something.

[wyntrout]

Whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is fine, Bawanna.:D

Wynn:)

[Tinman507]

Whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is fine, Bawanna.:D

Wynn:)
Now THAT'S funny, I don't care who you are