Hard to Beat a Mossberg AR-15

[Barth]

http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=29133&utm_source=EmailDirect.com&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20121020-Chronicle-Vol1Iss12+Campaign
http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mossberg-MMR-Hunter2.jpg

"For the money, the MMR Hunter is the best deal on the market for a quality built civilian AR. It isn’t the most tacticool AR on the market, but you get quality components which will deliver top-level accuracy and dependability for less than 700 bucks. Since it is like most other ARs, you can switch out parts to your taste, but the stock MMR Hunter gives you an affordable platform to get started in the AR world."

Specifications and Features
.223 Rem/5.56 NATO
20″ Barrel
Aluminum free float handguard
Flat top upper
Fixed A2 Buttstock
Stark SE-1 pistol grip
Dual front swivel studs
Accepts standard AR-15 magazines
5 round capacity magazine
Length: 39″
Weight: 7 lbs
Black finish

[downtownv]

I have an old Mossberg Shotgun (1969) very Plain Jane, but it NEVER failed me EVER!

[muggsy]

Is the bolt carrier group and buffer tube mil spec? If so, that's one hell of a good deal.

For the do it yourself types.

http://www.majorpandemic.com/2011/09/dpms-oracle-ar15-kit-review.html

[JFootin]

Thanks guys. A couple of good articles.

[les strat]

Is the bolt carrier group and buffer tube mil spec? If so, that's one hell of a good deal.

For the do it yourself types.

http://www.majorpandemic.com/2011/09/dpms-oracle-ar15-kit-review.html

If I remember correctly from an NRA article, I don't believe they are. For hunting and plinking, it would be absolutely fine. I would probably pony up a hair more for the proven M&P 15 unless you wanted the 20" barrel.

[muggsy]

Agree, unless you shoot in competition or burn up a lot of ammo shooting rapid fire they are fine.

[dirtkicker]

http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=29133&utm_source=EmailDirect.com&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=20121020-Chronicle-Vol1Iss12+Campaign
http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mossberg-MMR-Hunter2.jpg

"For the money, the MMR Hunter is the best deal on the market for a quality built civilian AR. It isn’t the most tacticool AR on the market, but you get quality components which will deliver top-level accuracy and dependability for less than 700 bucks. Since it is like most other ARs, you can switch out parts to your taste, but the stock MMR Hunter gives you an affordable platform to get started in the AR world."

Specifications and Features
.223 Rem/5.56 NATO
20″ Barrel
Aluminum free float handguard
Flat top upper
Fixed A2 Buttstock
Stark SE-1 pistol grip
Dual front swivel studs
Accepts standard AR-15 magazines
5 round capacity magazine
Length: 39″
Weight: 7 lbs
Black finish

I'm looking really hard at one of these. Hunting purposes mostly. Anyone own or have any experience with one? Thanks. :)

[johnh]

Personally I would build your own in that price range. You would have a front sight, flash suppressor or brake, and your choice of standard stocks/grips. I never liked ARs with naked barrels and smooth hand guards. The grip looks uncomfortably large to me as well.

[Barth]

Personally I would build your own in that price range. You would have a front sight, flash suppressor or brake, and your choice of standard stocks/grips. I never liked ARs with naked barrels and smooth hand guards. The grip looks uncomfortably large to me as well.

Full Disclosure;
I don't own, and know nothing about, ARs.
Or rifles in general.
I do like my Mossy 500 pump gun.
And thought If they made an AR it would be worth a look.

I'm a pistolero guy myself.

[dirtkicker]

Full Disclosure;
I don't own, and know nothing about, ARs.
Or rifles in general.
I do like my Mossy 500 pump gun.
And thought If they made an AR it would be worth a look.

I'm a pistolero guy myself.

Well that's the same category I fall into but I'm dipping my toe in the water. I handled some today. A Windham Arms SRC and a Stag Arms model 3 most notably. If anyone has any personal experience with them I would like to hear it. These are both middle/low end models.

Pistolero is a cool word, makes me think of the old spaghetti western Clint classics.

[dirtkicker]

Personally I would build your own in that price range. You would have a front sight, flash suppressor or brake, and your choice of standard stocks/grips. I never liked ARs with naked barrels and smooth hand guards. The grip looks uncomfortably large to me as well.

The only problem is I don't know jack abour AR's.

[Barth]

Well that's the same category I fall into but I'm dipping my toe in the water. I handled some today. A Windham Arms SRC and a Stag Arms model 3 most notably. If anyone has any personal experience with them I would like to hear it. These are both middle/low end models.

Pistolero is a cool word, makes me think of the old spaghetti western Clint classics.

I'm a big Clint fan myself.

Personal recommendation from someone that knows nothing about ARs.
Look at Colt and Rock River.

An alternate option would be a Ruger Mini-14 or Mini-30.
http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-Mini14Tactical/DSC07255.JPGhttp://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ruger-mini-thirty-762x39mm.jpg

[Tinman507]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/526754_10151217332277740_187182793_n.jpg

[johnh]

Both good brands from what I hear. Windham is the folks who used to run Bushmaster. I have used Stag lowers and owned an upper a while back. No issues with any of them.

[Bawanna]

I've heard nothing but very good about Windham, the product and the support.

If I was in a position to buy that would be one of my first choices.

[JimBianchi]

I have three AR's and I always take what the Colt fan boys say with a grain of salt.

That being said, I own a Colt SP1, DPMS and home-built AR with Colt, DPMS and Aero parts.

Bolt carriers are two BCM, and two DPMS.

All run well. All cost under $900 each, with one at $600.

The most accurate and most rounds, is the factory stock DPMS. People dog them, but mine is great and has done a one day rifle course without a hickup.

The old Colt SP1 is a 20" full stock A2 model with National Match sights. I found an old 1960's style Colt 4x20 scope to put on it and it is very accurate, but I haven't put enough rounds in it to say it is more accurate than my factory DPMS, but it might be. It had a lot of rounds down the tube when I bought it (1970's gun) so I replaced the barrel and hammer and springs (trigger was down to less than 2 pounds because of wear, great for shooting, no so much for safety) , best guess is 10 to 20K or more. New barrel only has 200rds but I like it so far.

For best-bang for the buck and reliability the M&P15 Sport seems to be the winner right now IMO. If they were more common on the used market I might buy one, but I haven't seen one for sale used locally in a over year. (Which could mean people love them and won't sell)

Over on GlockTalk there is a thread about a gun range owner who is doing a long term test between a M&P15 Sport and Colt 6920, both guns are on the rental counter and used by walk-in customers, not babied at all, just lubed and not cleaned for the first 1000 rds. Seems SW has a winner here. Colt fan boys are eating their hats since a $600 rifle is going head to head with a $1000 gold-standard rifle and winning in accuracy and a tie everywhere else.

Good luck with your choice and keep us posted.

[dirtkicker]

I can get a Stag Arms Model 3 for $800. All I have to do is show up tomorrow with the cash.

I held and fondeled the Stag and a Windham SRC today for longer than I'll admit to... I am liking the Stag. The Windham is virtually the same price. And in reality 800-850 is the top of my price range so the RRA and Colts are out of my league.

http://www.stagarms.com/product_info.php?products_id=208

http://www.windhamweaponry.com/pdf/UpdatedTechSheets/SRCMSRPPRICING.pdf

[dirtkicker]

I have three AR's and I always take what the Colt fan boys say with a grain of salt.

That being said, I own a Colt SP1, DPMS and home-built AR with Colt, DPMS and Aero parts.

Bolt carriers are two BCM, and two DPMS.

All run well. All cost under $900 each, with one at $600.

The most accurate and most rounds, is the factory stock DPMS. People dog them, but mine is great and has done a one day rifle course without a hickup.

The old Colt SP1 is a 20" full stock A2 model with National Match sights. I found an old 1960's style Colt 4x20 scope to put on it and it is very accurate, but I haven't put enough rounds in it to say it is more accurate than my factory DPMS, but it might be. It had a lot of rounds down the tube when I bought it (1970's gun) so I replaced the barrel and hammer and springs (trigger was down to less than 2 pounds because of wear, great for shooting, no so much for safety) , best guess is 10 to 20K or more. New barrel only has 200rds but I like it so far.

For best-bang for the buck and reliability the M&P15 Sport seems to be the winner right now IMO. If they were more common on the used market I might buy one, but I haven't seen one for sale used locally in a over year. (Which could mean people love them and won't sell)

Over on GlockTalk there is a thread about a gun range owner who is doing a long term test between a M&P15 Sport and Colt 6920, both guns are on the rental counter and used by walk-in customers, not babied at all, just lubed and not cleaned for the first 1000 rds. Seems SW has a winner here. Colt fan boys are eating their hats since a $600 rifle is going head to head with a $1000 gold-standard rifle and winning in accuracy and a tie everywhere else.

Good luck with your choice and keep us posted.

My shop had a DPMS and the trigger felt like it had sand in it. The M&P Sports are nowhere to be found. That may be my second AR purchase down the line. :33: The front sight on it is permanent and all I want for now is a flatop I can scope. I looked at the MP 15 too. Pretty nice but >$900 so I was led to the Stag and Windham.

[dirtkicker]

Hey John, are you familiar with CMMG, a local show me company. I looked at these too but are really an unknown (I believe) in the AR market.

http://www.cmmginc.com/

[dirtkicker]

I went with the Stag Arms Model 3. I put a scope on and sighted it this weekend. Everything was good. 6 inch groups at 100 yards. And...I ain't the greatest marksman. Trigger was really good, ease of operation likewise.