New to me K9 ...with some ?? Pics added

[espresso]

OK....so I couldn't take it any more, I just had to have a k9 to go with my CW9. I found A SS one for a descent price with night sights that supposedly wasn't a police trade in. Well BS I say....this thing is filthy inside!:eek: Sure looks like a trade in. Oh well I don't mind a little cleaning but I have a few questions:

I'm having a hard time getting the slide off. After removing the slide stop and pulling the trigger it seems to jam up, even after cleaning. I have to force it a little to get it to come off. Any suggestions??

I know this is a different gun than my CW9 but the ejector doesn't look the same or have the same beveled top. Is this right for a K9?

Next...the K9's striker doesn't poke out as much as my CW9 after releasing
the safety.



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I hope I can get this thing running with out too much fuss.

I'll put up some pics once I get it all cleaned up and running smooth

[espresso]

Boy she cleaned up real nice. Grips seem to be fine, I thought I would have to replace them but a bath in soapy water did the trick.

I have a 22lb recoil spring and standard striker spring on the way from Wolf's. Still trying to find out if my ejector is OK.

Can't wait to see how she shoots! :D
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[ripley16]

Your ejector looks just like mine; wide on the bottom, beveled sides to a flat top.

Have you had a chance to shoot yet?

You may want toput your pictures in vertical file. Side by side makes a wide page view.;)

[Bawanna]

I can't say for sure on the ejector, been a long time since I looked at one. I don't see anything blatantly wrong with it.

It did clean up real purty.

When you get the springs you can check for junk in the striker channel if you didn't already. I doubt there will be anything major.

The striker protrusions looks like enough to my eye but only shooting will tell for sure.

Looks like the soft rubber grips too. Very nice. I'd never part with those even if you go wood or something.

[ripley16]

Looks like the soft rubber grips too. Very nice. I'd never part with those even if you go wood or something.

To my knowledge Kahr has always used a soft polymer for their grip material and not rubber. My early Kahr and my newest Kahr have the same grips.

[JERRY]

the K9 is a supurb gun.

[Bawanna]

To my knowledge Kahr has always used a soft polymer for their grip material and not rubber. My early Kahr and my newest Kahr have the same grips.

My K40 and the old MK and K9 that the guys have at work are soft like Hogue rubber grips. The new ones look very much the same but they are much denser, like well polymer.

Not saying the new are bad or inferior but they don't feel quite as nice to me.

I'm sure theres a good reason behind it but I think they should have stuck with the softer material. It as you say might be polymer but it sure feels like rubber to me.

[espresso]

Thanks!

I did a complete take down of the slide last night and it wasn't as cruddy as I thought, Striker channel looked fine. The barrel was BLACK! couldn't see any rifling but it cleaned up good and came out pretty shinny. I'll probably do another good cleaning on the barrel after the first time I shoot it, I'm waiting on a new recoil spring before I try her out....It does cycle snap caps fine.

I guess I was expecting the ejector to look like this with the beveled edge. Mine just has a flat edge.

This Pic is of a MK9 BTW.

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I'll try to get a pic from the top of my K9 later on today.

I'm sure I'll find out more after I get to the range and test her out.:53:

[unclenunzie]

I had a chance to clean up and shoot a police trade-in K9 recently, and noticed also that the firing pin protrusion seemed less than my PM9. The K9 fed, fired, and ejected all rounds like a champ, really nice gun. The K9 grips on this one are soft rubber. I believe it was born in 1998-99, and was partnered up with a Brooklyn NYPD officer until the trade in. Very nice trigger too, these K9s. I'll probably get one eventually.

[espresso]

Thanks for the replies on the ejector and firing pin, I bet they are fine.
Just my paranoia coming out because I bought it used from someone I didn't know, I bet all goes well at the range.

What are some good cleaning solutions I can use to clean things up a bit more?
I used almost an entire lead away cloth on the barrel and still didn't get totally clean.

[Tinman507]

A box of FMJ ought to clean her up real well.
If it's leaded up, copper jacket will clean it.

[espresso]

Thanks Tinman, I hadn't thought about that but I bet it does clean it up well.

I"ll give a range report.

It's nice to be in the K9 club

[Tinman507]

Get yourself a 9mm Boresnake too.
When you're at the range, after putting some rounds downrange, pass the Boresnake through a few times when she's still hot. Resume shooting, repeat as necessary.

[.454]

Your K9 cleaned up really nice. If it was a police trade in it was taken care of a lot better than mine. Have fun shooting it.

[espresso]

Someone traded it in on an AR and looked like they cleaned the outside to make it look
purty but inside it was nasty. Dont think I can make it to the range till next week. :mad:

[7shot]

Great looking K9, looks like it cleaned up just fine. Have fun shooting it. Mine is my favorite CC pistol.

[espresso]

Got home today and my springs were in the mail! I had just enough time to strip down the slide, replace the striker spring & recoil spring, grab some ammo and head to the range before they close. Shot 100 rounds and everything fired and ejected fine! I did have something happen that has never happened to me before. About 50 rounds in my guide rod came poking out the bottom of the slide. I took the slide off and the flange end of the guide rod had worked it's way past the closed end of the recoil spring . I thought something was fishy because my shots were WAY off on that mag! I put the guide rod back in it's place and shot the other 50 or so rounds. When I got home and took the slide off, the rod was about to slide down again. I'm sure I had the flange end of the rod on the closed end of the recoil spring but the closed end doesn't look very closed. The springs are new from Wolf, What should I do? Can I just put some pliers to the spring and close the end some more? Call wolf and get a new spring? Could it be the guide rod?..do they wear out?
Very nice gun and even though it has the NYPD trigger and is a hair longer that my CW9, when I took my time and slowly pulled the trigger, it was laser accurate. I must say I expected the K9 to kick a lot less than the CW9 but I found the difference only modest. Not a knock on the K9 but a testament to just how much bang for your buck you get with CW9.

[LorenzoB]

Before you attempt closing the spring with pliers, can you post a photo of the guide rod with the Wolf spring on it?

The Kahr spring on my CW9 is "extra closed" on the last coil. A normal closed spring has the same diameter at the end, but I think the Kahr springs are a little tighter at that end by design.

[espresso]

The spring on my CW9 which came stock on the gun is extra closed too Lorenzo.

Here's a pic of the one from Wolf on my K9's guide rod. The pic on the right is the bottom non closed end.

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[ripley16]

I just looked at the Kahr provided spring on my K9. The closed end is slightly tighter, smaller in diameter, and the end is a double loop wound right on top of each other. It looks nothing like the Wolff spring above.

[Tinman507]

Make sure when reassembling you point the open end of the spring to the front sight.
If it's toward the opposite it will work it's way through the rod hole.
Happens with Kahr spring or Wolf spring (same spring btw)

[ripley16]

(same spring btw)

Are you positive? I have springs from both and I see a difference in the closed end side. The Kahr springs are tighter, flattened and the outside two or three coils are coiled closer together. The Wolffe spring has none of these traits other than a flat edge.

[Tinman507]

No, not positive. I thought Wolf did Kahr's springs but they may have changed vendors. I use a Wolf set in my K9. Striker and Recoil.
Just make sure the piggy tail end faces up toward the front sight when you set the guide rod in and it won't work it's way out through the hole.

[espresso]

Yeah I'm sure the piggy tail is towards the front sight. The closed end doesn't look much different than the piggy tail end and I think that's the problem.
The pic I posted has both ends of the spring.

I may just order one from Kahr, just hate to throw more money at the gun If I don't need to.

[Tinman507]

Further clarification:
the absolute end of the spring wire wants to face up toward the sight.
If it's at 6 or 3 or 9o'clock it will work out the hole. MUST be at 12

[LorenzoB]

If the last closed coil on your Wolf spring is the same diameter as the rest of the spring (which it looks like it is in your photo), then I can definitely see that it could jump over the head of the guide rod. In your photo, you can see where the end of the wire nicked the head of your guide rod when it went over.

Below are photos of my CW9 where you can see the last coil is a smaller diameter (second photo shows it best). When I slide mine onto the guide rod, the last coil actually drags tight against the guide rod as it slides into place, but the rest of the coils are loose around the guide rod. That tight diameter keeps it from sliding over the head of the guide rod.

I think you can just pinch that last coil smaller. Or call Wolf and ask them to take it back, and then buy a Kahr spring.


Here is my CW9 (custom guide rod, but same dimensions)...

[espresso]

Ahhh tinman I understand what you mean now , that makes since . At 12:00 it would be held in place by the barrel.
I may just crimp down a little on the end and put the very end of the coil at 12:00 and give it a try

[LorenzoB]

Please let us know if Tinman's tip works. I would be kinda surprised if it doesn't act the same way. I still think you may need to modify the spring or get a new one.

[cgpeanut]

Thanks for the replies on the ejector and firing pin, I bet they are fine.
Just my paranoia coming out because I bought it used from someone I didn't know, I bet all goes well at the range.

What are some good cleaning solutions I can use to clean things up a bit more?
I used almost an entire lead away cloth on the barrel and still didn't get totally clean.

Did you try wrapping just the right amount of lead away on a 9mm brass brush? Dont need much just cut a small piece and reuse the other side, it should last long


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[espresso]

Yeah, the inside of the barrel came clean after only a few squares of lead away, but the outside took much of my cloth to get clean. I kept cutting squares using both sides till they were black, then cut another....and another....

I finally got it pretty clean and I think after a few more routine cleaning after shooting it should do the trick.

[cgpeanut]

I wipe hoppies #9 lubricating oil on the frame of my black k9 and stainless pm9 seems to do the trick afrer it's been cleaned with lead away once.

And i also like the soft rubber grips that came with the k9 makes it more concealable and feels a lot better than plastic or wood, l did add a stainless guide rod and 1911 hex screws, ss rod reduced recoil quite a bit which helps especially on reloads. My k9 had over 1k of +p reloads never had any problems
Great gun would not change a thing except maybe big dot sights up front just to see what the fuss is all about.

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[jocko]

u just gotta love those rubber grips. I think they are simply the best. hated to see kahr get away from them. Hogue used tomake um for kahr, would have been nice had Hogue kept that grips in their line--but they didn't..

[espresso]

Love the grips for sure, they just feel right.
I called Wolf this morn to see if they had anything to say about the recoil spring but they are closed for storm. I just went ahead and crimped down a bit on the last loop of the closed end of the recoil spring. Figured it cant hurt.
I'll give that a try as well as placing the end of the spring at 12:00 like Tinman suggested and give an update here after I shoot it again.

[espresso]

Well I shot a non sanctioned IDPA match today with my K9 after crimping the end of the recoil spring.
Shot about 120 rounds and no problems with the recoil spring coming off the end of the guide rod, looks like that did the trick.
I did have one jam that easily cleared but no biggie. Could have been ammo related or new recoil spring just breaking in.
After shooting my CW9 so much I'm not used to the 3 dot night sights. They aren't the best for day light shooting and I may change them out in the future not much glow in them anyway. Not sure if I'll go with something like a big dot or just standard sights.
Sweet gun It's really starting to grow on me. The grips are rubber and have Hogue stamped on the inside. Super nice and soft, don't know if I'll ever put wood on it.

[LorenzoB]

That's awesome! I bet the match was a ton of fun with such a great gun. I've been keeping an eye out for one myself.

[Aeromat209]

How does it carry with the added weight of the Steel frame ? I have a Sig 239 in 40 S&W that weighs 30 0z unloaded and loaded feels like a 1911 . I am trying to go to a P9 but considering a K9 too!

[jocko]

Never compare a all steel gun to a polymer gun, the results wil make u sick.. as far as weight goes..

if u love steel, then u put up with the weight factor..

[espresso]

I didn't notice the weight difference too much as compared to my CW9, but I was occupied at the match the whole time and wearing jeans. Wearing shorts and going to the grocery once with the K9 I noticed the wight more but still not too bad. May depend on what I'm wearing and only time will tell if the weight difference becomes a big deal, but I can tell you my lil CW9 ain't going anywhere....love that gun!

The match was great. Competing with a bunch of full sized Glocks and M&P's people carrying OWB. I carried my K9 IWB and had more mag changes but I'm not trying to win, just trying to get some real life situation practice in.
Had lots of people asking " what kind of gun is that?" I could tell many have never heard or Kahr.