View Full Version : took, the pm45 out again today and had 1 fte out of 60
jbaker
03-15-2010, 04:08 PM
i was shooting at a local range and was shooting 230 rem umc jhp after about4 mags w/o problem i let the owner try it i loaded up 6 and the 5th failed to eject i cleared it 6 went in and fired and ejected no prob, so i was like ,he must have been limp wristing it. so i put 4 more 5+1 mags through it pulling as fast as i could and no prob, then fired the rest at a normal pace with no probs. it just kinda sucked a little , but i know it was his fault:D:D
Vinikahr
03-15-2010, 04:18 PM
That is great!:80:
jocko
03-15-2010, 04:40 PM
i was shooting at a local range and was shooting 230 rem umc jhp after about4 mags w/o problem i let the owner try it i loaded up 6 and the 5th failed to eject i cleared it 6 went in and fired and ejected no prob, so i was like ,he must have been limp wristing it. so i put 4 more 5+1 mags through it pulling as fast as i could and no prob, then fired the rest at a normal pace with no probs. it just kinda sucked a little , but i know it was his fault:D:D
confirms my toughts that alot of kahr issues could be shooter issues. U just proved that point to....I can remember some of the kahr people telling me that oer 50% of allguns sent back for issues would not produce the issues stated. Might be a cop out but they volunteered it tome. I never asked.
I do know that the kel tec techs numerous times have told me back younder that most of their guns that come back gave no issues. It is just so easy to blame a gun that cannot talk back, nor do we "MACHO" men ever want to admit that maybe, jsut maybe it cold be the shooter behind the gun. Ever notice that alot of issues posted here and on other small gun forums, don't show up near as much as the bigger guns on other forums????
jbaker
03-15-2010, 05:10 PM
confirms my toughts that alot of kahr issues could be shooter issues. U just proved that point to....I can remember some of the kahr people telling me that oer 50% of allguns sent back for issues would not produce the issues stated. Might be a cop out but they volunteered it tome. I never asked.
I do know that the kel tec techs numerous times have told me back younder that most of their guns that come back gave no issues. It is just so easy to blame a gun that cannot talk back, nor do we "MACHO" men ever want to admit that maybe, jsut maybe it cold be the shooter behind the gun. Ever notice that alot of issues posted here and on other small gun forums, don't show up near as much as the bigger guns on other forums????
yeah , bunch of sallies:D
Vinikahr
03-15-2010, 05:22 PM
I do know that the kel tec techs numerous times have told me back younder that most of their guns that come back gave no issues. It is just so easy to blame a gun that cannot talk back, nor do we "MACHO" men ever want to admit that maybe, jsut maybe it cold be the shooter behind the gun. Ever notice that alot of issues posted here and on other small gun forums, don't show up near as much as the bigger guns on other forums????
Not all men are the same:eek:, if you look at my range report, the author indicated user fault. But for new readers I will put the blame on mine again. I shot 400 plus rounds from my CW45 and PM9 in the break period and had 3 FTF and all were my fault. I was tired.:blah::w00t::40: But I agree to many egos and testosterone floating around.:yo::banplease:
Bawanna
03-18-2010, 02:07 PM
yeah , bunch of sallies:D
Ms Zena and Ms Mx5fan, he didn't mean it really. He typed without concious thought.
jbaker, I might have just saved your life. These ladies while no doubt cuter than a bugs ear I sense could definitely run with the big dogs any day. Don't mention it, I do this as public service.
jbaker
03-21-2010, 01:21 PM
Ms Zena and Ms Mx5fan, he didn't mean it really. He typed without concious thought.
jbaker, I might have just saved your life. These ladies while no doubt cuter than a bugs ear I sense could definitely run with the big dogs any day. Don't mention it, I do this as public service.
im sure that they shoot great and dont limp wrist, sallies was refering to limp wristing men:D
jocko
03-21-2010, 02:02 PM
sometimes because well like to shoot so much we get tired and don't realize it. If one makes any notes etc or keeps an eye on events that happen at the range. Most shooting errors seem to arise towards the end of the shoot, not the beginniing.
I used to be a devot bow hunter, Practiced hours a day, just loved to shoot my Bear 70-# recurve. When I got tired it really showed up big time. It took a good shooter standing along side of me to really call my attention to what I was doing wrong at the end of the session that I was not doing wrong at the beginning. Dropping ones bow arm is a real no no, about as bad as jerking the trigger on a gun or anticipating recoil. Sometimes it takes another person watching to show you what u are doing wrong.
I really appreciate when a shooter comes on board here with an issue and then the members give some tips and later he comes back and truthfully tells us, YUP IT WAS ME ALL ALONG. I just think kahrs get a bad rap from some shooters, who will post on every forum his gun issues, when indeed it just might not be the gun but the guy behind it. they are small, very small for the power they produce. they are light, very light for the power they produce. the combination of both will produce more shooter errors than the big guns, any day, every day.. and also IMO kahrs are not for everyone either..
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