Is there such a thing?

[cmichael22]

A .40 or.45 Compact 1911 with 3in barrel that is either steel or polymer and under 26 oz. Everyone I see is aluminum.

[TucsonMTB]

Kimber marketed a polymer 1911 for a while. So did Para Ordnance. You can still find them on GunBroker.com from time to time.

Aluminum is more popular than plastic because the frame can be the same size as a steel frame and still get into the mid-twenty ounce range.

The 1911's with plastic frames are usually rather bulky and not very elegant looking.

[mr surveyor]

no such thing as a plastic 1911... blasphemy

[ltxi]

no such thing as a plastic 1911... blasphemy

Dat dere used ta be whut te said 'bout 'luminums back in te day.

[jocko]

Dat dere used ta be whut te said 'bout 'luminums back in te day.

see I decoded ur quote "instantely":popcorn:

[gb6491]

A .40 or.45 Compact 1911 with 3in barrel that is either steel or polymer and under 26 oz. Everyone I see is aluminum.
Yes, the poly frame BUL M-5 Ultra -X (http://bultransmark.net/BULM5UltraX.htm)
Regards,
Greg

[ltxi]

see I decoded ur quote "instantely":popcorn:

was thinkin' as i typed it..wwjs

[jeepster09]

http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_para-ordnance_para_carry_c6.45_lda.php

Hard to beat Para Ordnance's...

[kramm]

Dan Wesson has a ECO. Says it's 25oz. Comes in 9mm or 45acp. Kinda pricey though, somewhere around 1300.00-1400.00.

[cmichael22]

But isnt the Dan Wesson eco aluminum too?

[kramm]

I checked their web site and it is indeed Aluminum. It will be real hard to find an all steel 1911 with in your search limits.

[ltxi]

But isnt the Dan Wesson eco aluminum too?

I just gotta ask...if you're willing to go polymer instead of steel why not aluminum?

[cmichael22]

Polymer is more durable than aluminum if I get a gun for over $1000 it needs to be durable and last long especially for edc.

[jocko]

humm, most air planes are made out of aluminum, not to many polymer ones flying around that I know of. agood aluminum or polymer gun, u won't live long enough to shoot either one out

[ltxi]

Polymer is more durable than aluminum if I get a gun for over $1000 it needs to be durable and last long especially for edc.

Uh...I really ain't goin' along with that. The only place polymer is overwhelmingly more durable/long lasting is in a landfill.

[jocko]

HUMM,NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THATWAY.

mY QUESTION TO
Cmichael 22. How old are u. some of ur questions and no malice intended seem to come from a 5 year old maybe

[Scoundrel]

humm, most air planes are made out of aluminum, not to many polymer ones flying around that I know of. agood aluminum or polymer gun, u won't live long enough to shoot either one out

Carbon Fiber Reinforced Polymer Helps Aircraft Manufacturers Save Weight
http://www.azom.com/news.aspx?newsID=21760
Weight reduction for both fuel and systems cost savings remains a long-haul strategy for the airline industry, and has opened up another major development opportunity for SABIC Innovative Plastics and its customers. The company has created a new high-performance compound based on aerospace carbon fiber technology coupled with Ultem* polyetherimide (PEI) resin, creating a space-age solution to replace heavier airline-grade die-cast and machined aluminum for aircraft interior components, slashing weight by up to 50 percent.

Which Polymer Matrix Composites Are Used in Airplanes?
http://www.ehow.com/info_8029762_polymer-matrix-composites-used-airplanes.html
Polymer composites are widely used in both civilian and military aircraft.
Polymer matrix composites are high-tech materials made by embedding reinforcing fibers in a plastic matrix. Many modern military and commercial aircraft could not be manufactured without the use of composite materials. The earliest composite material used to manufacture aircraft was fiberglass. In the 1950's, fiberglass, a mixture of glass fibers embedded in an epoxy resin, was first used in the manufacture of commercial airliners, as were carbon and boron fiber composites.

"Smart" Fire-Resistant Polymers Under Study For Use In Aircraft
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990325052952.htm
Research into new polymers targeted for aircraft safety shows that they are much more fire-resistant than current materials and, when heated, actually produce water vapor and leave a nearly nonflammable residue.
The new findings, reported here today at a national meeting of the American Chemical Society, the world's largest scientific society, are expected to help prevent some of the deaths in "survivable" airplane accidents, 40 percent of which are due to fires.
The polymer research conducted at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and the Federal Aviation Administration is part of an ongoing series of studies into new fire-resistant polymers, sponsored by a government and industry consortium created to improve aircraft safety.

[jocko]

are u equating carbon fiber with polymer??? Even that is so so rare of modern airplances.I realiize our military is doing alot with it but still by and large our planes today are still made of steel, aluminum and titanium.I have not flowon alot but I have yet to see acommercial passenger plane with the fusellodge and wings madeout of polymer--anything..

[Scoundrel]

They used to make them out of wood and canvas.
Now a lot of them are titanium and aluminum.

In the ATV world, aluminum skid plates used to be the bee's knees. Now, the thing to get is the UHMW plastic skid plates - lighter, slide better on rocks, more resistant to damage and elemental effects.

Now they're working with polymers in airplanes, reinforcing them with various things (like carbon fiber). and eventually I predict that most of the plane will be polymer. Just need a little time to get there.

Guns aren't used to transport people through the air (except in the movies), so they got there a little quicker is all.

[cmichael22]

I am 19 and yea that makes sense Scoundrel.

[Scoundrel]

But.. we don't need to resurrect the old argument about plastic vs metal guns here. Shoulda kept my mouth shut, but I have been having difficulty with that today.

Even folks who are OK with modern plastic guns are against them in the 1911 format, and I understand - some things are supposed to be sacred and all of that.

BTW, Jocko, has Harley made any polymer prototypes yet? :behindsofa:

[jocko]

hope not, but their hard bags are not of some type of dupont zytel polymer. over their once traditional fiberglass, but most external stuff is still steel. Have no idea about prottypes either. I probalby won' t live long enough to see um.

Harley owners are alot like 1911 people in certain ways. "DON'T FOKK WITH TRADITION"..
Air cooled has survived for 110 years, we still think there are some years left even but with the EPA on the cyycling industry asses, things are changing. Two cycles are gone as u well know No doubt in the nexst 15-20 years the old time harley generation people willbe longgone and the newgeneration will indeed require air bags heaters, training wheels, 500 HP motors, hellwho knows maybe even wings.

I am not a 1911 owner but I really can't see a 1911 in polymer ever catching on. doesnt matter if it proves to be better or what ever. Right now the tradionalists RULE.

[Scoundrel]

Is this traditional?

[Edit: Actually, I guess it is. People have been making freakish weird guns for centuries.]

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Double-Barrel-1911-1.jpg

[mr surveyor]

I am 19 and yea that makes sense Scoundrel.


you're a good man for making that fact clear! Straight answer...no BS. I like that.

[johnh]

The Bul series was very nice. I would like to see an American company import them again. I have suggested that to MRI, but am not sure the past record of success would be much motivation to do that. Still, I think that was largely due to poor decisions by importers on how to price and market the guns. I may bring that up again at SHOT. I wonder if the Bul Transmark folks will be around?

[TucsonMTB]

The Bul series was very nice. I would like to see an American company import them again. I have suggested that to MRI, but am not sure the past record of success would be much motivation to do that.
Agreed. As a newish shooter on a tight budget, I almost bought one a few years ago.

The aesthetics of the double stack frame and thick trigger guard don't seem to appeal to the high end 1911 enthusiasts. That probably only leaves the low priced end of the market who want high capacity, plastic pistols, which is already a pretty crowded market segment. ;)

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/old-lefty/PICT0524-1.jpg