Problem with new T9

[got2hav1]

As I have posted on here in the T9 section, I bought a new T9 last week. I put 50 flawless rounds of PMC 124gr thru it today. Really handled nice and I was pleased with it. Until... I started to clean it and found this.:(

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb222/got2hav1/2012-11-10_123643.jpg

I will be returning it to Kahr on Monday. Does anybody know how to proceed. I assume a phone call to Kahr customer service to start with. But will they pay the tab for the return? I will not be happy to have to pay to send it back for an obvious defective slide. Anything I should know ahead of time to make this as smooth as possible. Thanks for your help in advance. :(

[Bawanna]

That's actually not much to be concerned about. REALLY.

You have two options. You can take a file or a dremel (careful with the dremmel) and just clean up that notch, dress it up and it will be good forever.
That slide got out without the notch being cut properly. It used to be quite common but we don't hear so much about it anymore.

Even if you do nothing it will only be unsightly and will eventually just stop getting worse. It's just not allowing the barrel to clear properly.

Option two is send it back. Personally I'd email first and include that photo. I suspect but I'm only guessing that you can send just the slide so even if you pay which you shouldn't have to it won't cost like sending the whole gun.

They will most likely send a pick up tag, for sure if they want the whole gun.

They make it right, no worries.

[Bawanna]

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1612

Take a gander here at Greg's very well put together thread. The very first post address's your issue.

Don't panic my friend. Lots of good help here to help anyway we can.

[ripley16]

Your T9 should have a notch already milled into the end. IMHO, that was a mistake made in the shaping of your slide. Email pictures to Kahr and see how they handle it.

Here's what it should look like.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/Pistols/Kahr/notchinT9001.jpg

[Tank]

The size of this feature on my T40 is about 3 times as big as Ripley's. I think this will very from gun to gun. I don't think it is a milled slot but the feature is a product of the intersection of the spring bore and the and angled cut for the barrel. Due to tolerances it is going to vary from possibly a very thin wall that should be removed at the factory to a large section missing.

The important thing is that this is a non funtional area that isn't a concern. You still have 360 deg. for a spring seat at the bottom of the spring bore and the clearance cut in the barrel bore is just that, clearance. The barrel seats in the dia. that is on the opposite side from the clearance cut.

If it were mine I would remove any raised material and if it looked real ugly I would file or dremel it so it looked symetrical and never give it any thought again.

[jocko]

Iwill agree withg allthe above posts, U can fix this in house vbery easily BUT by damn u paid top dollar for this gun. IT SHOULDHAVE NEVER LEFT THE BUILDING THAT WAY.

kEL TEK did that sh!t a fewyears back with their 9mm model. There was a casting left in the lower frame that once u shot the gun it just busted and looked like crap. It served no purpose. It was supposed to be machined out of the way buyt many thousands just left that way and thei8r answer was, "IT'S ok. If u sent it back they merley dremeled/filed that broken area away .

Kahr will basically do the same thing here with that slide.They will dremel it or file it but it will look the same as if u did it urself to. Now if u are an ndustrious jperson who does little fixes etc on other things, then I would surely suggest doing it urself. If not and if in doubt SCREW IT send the fokker back on their dime and u will get it back in a week. This will be a 5 minute joby by kahr.

What I think will happen is if u continue to shoot it, it willbreak off enough that clears that barrel upon recoil etc and then it will stop like most have stated, but it willnot look cosmeticaaly nice until u or someone rounds that area off. I have seen a few of these lsides in that area to that if nuttin is done it will continue to break off and maybe will stop or also this is a thin area. I have seen where it has cracked all the way across that area. That area is not made to be banged every shot, thats why it is milled away in the first place even.

Not a tuff decison for me, I owuld do it myself but u know ur capabilities, so go accordingly. Take what I and others say as advice ONLY

[got2hav1]

I will e mail Kahr on Monday with the picture and see what they suggest. Thanks for the replys folks.

[got2hav1]

I changed my mind guys after re reading all your post on this. I have some stones and a also a dremel. I am pretty sure I can take care of this my self. I will post up some pictures of the results. I just do not want to go thru the hassle of sending it back to Kahr. But I do agree it never should have left that way. I am a little disappointed in that. Again many thanks , you have been quite helpful. Mike

[JERRY]

i had that on my PM45, rolled over metal tabs at the cut out....i used a dremel to clean it up and havent had them come back....

do not hope for the best that it will break off and clear up on its own...that stray piece of metal can cause a jam or bind something up......dont allow the frustration to get you.....do what should have been done by kahr.....you shouldnt need to be a gun smith to make a $700.00 gun work properly out of the box.

i love the concept of my PM45 but after the next 100 rounds if it doesnt run right it will be for sale or trade.

[got2hav1]

i had that on my PM45, rolled over metal tabs at the cut out....i used a dremel to clean it up and havent had them come back....

do not hope for the best that it will break off and clear up on its own...that stray piece of metal can cause a jam or bind something up......dont allow the frustration to get you.....do what should have been done by kahr.....you shouldnt need to be a gun smith to make a $700.00 gun work properly out of the box.

i love the concept of my PM45 but after the next 100 rounds if it doesnt run right it will be for sale or trade.

Thanks, I hope we both have good luck. I cleaned the area up and will give it another 50-100 rds and see if it all still looks good. If it doesn't I will send it back. :D

[got2hav1]

After the clean up with dremel.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb222/got2hav1/003-1.jpg

It looks like it will be ok but the area is pretty thin. Appears that this is not a load bearing area, so it should be ok. I still may send these photos to CS and see what they say. I hate to go thru the hassle but I don't want any problems down the raod either.

[JERRY]

Thanks, I hope we both have good luck. I cleaned the area up and will give it another 50-100 rds and see if it all still looks good. If it doesn't I will send it back. :D

the clean up youve done should be all that it needed.....the recess simply wasnt machined correctly in the beginning, but once youve opened it up enough there shouldnt be any more rolled over edges.

[jocko]

After the clean up with dremel.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb222/got2hav1/003-1.jpg

It looks like it will be ok but the area is pretty thin. Appears that this is not a load bearing area, so it should be ok. I still may send these photos to CS and see what they say. I hate to go thru the hassle but I don't want any problems down the raod either.

the right thing. IMO sending the photos of before and after is not a bad thing, at least u have a record of doing so, but u did the right thing, now just shoot it like u stole it..

Maybe alittle black magic marker on each end of that cut out and then checking the barrel after a fewrounds to see if ay black was transferred, might also tellu tha tu took off enough. I have seen bigger cutouts photoed on this forum, so that wasmy concern..

[Bawanna]

Very nicely done. I have no doubt you are good to go and no need to worry about that area again. As you state it is thin, but it non load bearing and you still have full support of the recoil spring as it was designed.

Since it basically created it own amount of space to work, just cleaning up what you had should be enough.

Well done.

[gb6491]

Nicely done got2hav1!
Regards,
Greg

[ripley16]

Good, clean job. You may be able to successfully test the size and shape by racking the slide a few dozen times, after marking the area.

[JERRY]

Good, clean job. You may be able to successfully test the size and shape by racking the slide a few dozen times, after marking the area.

i found that (while field stripped) inserting the bbl into the slide at the tilt angle its suppose to work with and checking to ensure there was no gap worked for me, ensuring the contour of the bevel mated properly with the contour of the bbl.....didnt have to waste more ammo this way.

[got2hav1]

Quick update. I fired another 50 rounds thru it today after the dremel job. Nothing changed, so I am calling it good.