View Full Version : CM9 First shots?
Cubby
11-12-2012, 01:23 PM
Tomorrow I'm going to the range and shoot my CM9 for the first time. I'm planning on a mix of FMJ to start. I've got WWB 115gr, Magtech 115gr, Ferderal Champion 115gr and Winchester Nato 124gr. Should I start with the Nato ammo first because it is a little hotter than the rest? Or doesn't it make any difference?
I'm also going to run some JHP through it after the FMJ. I've got Gold Dot 124gr, Remington HD 124gr and Remington GS 147gr. The Gold dot's are my generally prefered defensive round.
Tony
jocko
11-12-2012, 01:28 PM
If it was my gun I would start out with american brand ammo fmj first toge the gun reliable and u as the shootrer getting adjustted to it. then when u feel good abou tthe gun go with what ever defense stuff u desire for reliability.
I have no clue was nato ammo is other than I know what nato ammo is, it is supposed to be hotter, andit won't hrt ur cm9 that is for sure. It certainly might act like defense ammo to and with alittle more pwoerwork the recoil system nicely during the break in rounds..
knowing u have done a good pre cleaning and lubing and read the proper prepping threrad tosee if there are some things u can check quickly. then after that, just shoot it like u stole it. The cm9 is just an awesome semi auto..
Gadgetnut259
11-12-2012, 01:29 PM
The first ammo I ran through mine was S&B 115gr fmj. I chose it becaus it also runs a little hotter, but I'm not sure if it made any difference. Mine has been flawless with everything I've fed it. Good luck!
Rio Vista Slim
11-12-2012, 01:34 PM
All of my 9mm ammunition is either 124 gr. or 147 gr. Most of the full metal jacketed ammo is 124 gr., and I do shoot some NATO rounds.
Because I bought a Gen 4 Glock 19 when those came out, I had heard "horror" stories about that pistol not being reliable with certain 115 gr. ammunition. So, when buying at that time I went with 124 gr. NATO to break the gun in. Later purchases stuck with bullet weights of at least 124 gr.
Since those rounds were in my inventory when I bought my CM9, that's the ammunition I used for break-in. I haven't had any malfunctions that are ammo-related.
Cubby
11-12-2012, 01:37 PM
I thought that because of the close tolerances of the CM9, that the hotter ammo (Nato) would be the best to start with? But I'm just guessing....
Gadgetnut259
11-12-2012, 01:43 PM
I thought that because of the close tolerances of the CM9, that the hotter ammo (Nato) would be the best to start with? But I'm just guessing....
That was my reasoning too with shooting the hotter S&B. Who knows...maybe it did help.
Cubby
11-12-2012, 01:50 PM
That was my reasoning too with shooting the hotter S&B. Who knows...maybe it did help.
Well, I guess it can't hurt :confused:
Cubby
11-12-2012, 01:51 PM
On a separate note, how many posts before you can post pictures? I would like to post some of the CM9 when my holster gets here ???
Tinman507
11-12-2012, 01:53 PM
Look at it like the first batch of oil in your new car.
you're gonna run it a bit to clean out the chips, and stragglies then you're gonna dump it.
I wouldn't overthink this until you get her broken in and choose a SD round.
Buy WWB at Wally world and go have some fun.
JFootin
11-12-2012, 02:08 PM
Go ahead and use the Nato stuff first. If you start with the weaker Wallyworld ammo, there is a slim chance of having an FTF or 2 to start with. But it is breakin time for the gun anyway, so whatever you feed it is going to help break it in. After the first 200 or so, it will eat anything you feed it like a pig eating slop!
jocko
11-12-2012, 02:11 PM
Go ahead and use the Nato stuff first. If you start with the weaker Wallyworld ammo, there is a slim chance of having an FTF or 2 to start with. But it is breakin time for the gun anyway, so whatever you feed it is going to help break it in. After the first 200 or so, it will eat anything you feed it like a pig eating slop!
pig eating slop
Monica and Bill:der:
I thought that because of the close tolerances of the CM9, that the hotter ammo (Nato) would be the best to start with? But I'm just guessing....
The Win. NATO spec ammo is a good choice to begin with. IMO, the added power (10% according to Win.) will help mate the surfaces between the slide and frame as well as begin to set up the recoil spring. It was the first 100 rds. that I put thru my PM9 on day one. ;)
I then switched to an assortment of 147 gr. ammo for a couple hundred rounds and progressed to the Speer 124 gr. +P GDHP 60 rds. (short bbl. load), my carry load for the PM9 when I carry it.
Cubby
11-13-2012, 01:13 PM
Just back from the range! First 50 rounds Winchester Nato 124gr, no problems. Next 50 rounds WWB 115gr, no problems. Then 100 rounds Federal Champion 115gr. Again no problems. Six rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124gr, six rounds Remington GS 124gr and six rounds Remington GS 147gr. Everything ran fine except for round number five of the 147gr GS's. It failed to feed! Dropped the mag and gave it a tap and loaded up, last two rounds were fine. For some reason that one round failed to come up high enough to be picked up? My carry load will be 124gr anyways, but I like to try different loads. I'll try the 147gr again next time...
I was pretty much shooting for function not accuracy. Even though my groups got tighter the more that I shot. All in all, a positive day. I'm not sure that I like loading the first round via releasing the slide stop lever? It was pretty hard on my thumb! I lost some skin after all of the shooting...I always load my other guns with an over the top pull on the slide.
Tony
painter
11-13-2012, 01:21 PM
Just back from the range! First 50 rounds Winchester Nato 124gr, no problems. Next 50 rounds WWB 115gr, no problems. Then 100 rounds Federal Champion 115gr. Again no problems. Six rounds of Speer Gold Dot 124gr, six rounds Remington GS 124gr and six rounds Remington GS 147gr. Everything ran fine except for round number five of the 147gr GS's. It failed to feed! Dropped the mag and gave it a tap and loaded up, last two rounds were fine. For some reason that one round failed to come up high enough to be picked up? My carry load will be 124gr anyways, but I like to try different loads. I'll try the 147gr again next time...
I was pretty much shooting for function not accuracy. Even though my groups got tighter the more that I shot. All in all, a positive day. I'm not sure that I like loading the first round via releasing the slide stop lever? It was pretty hard on my thumb! I lost some skin after all of the shooting...I always load my other guns with an over the top pull on the slide.
Tony
I found that with my CM 9 loading the first round with the slide lock release got easier after a couple of hundred rounds.
It was second nature after 300.
Cubby
11-13-2012, 01:31 PM
I found that with my CM 9 loading the first round with the slide lock release got easier after a couple of hundred rounds.
It was second nature after 300.
I'll try and stay with it. The problem is I'm double-jointed in my thumbs, so they are at a wierd angle and I have trouble getting a lot of leverage. Is there anyone who uses over the top or slingshot to load a Kahr up?
Tony
Bawanna
11-13-2012, 01:32 PM
If you sling shot properly it will sling shot just fine too. It will become more forgiving in that respect with more rounds fired. I sling shot mine most of the time.
I think the magic # is 30 post and then you can post pictures etc.
Cubby
11-13-2012, 01:35 PM
If you sling shot properly it will sling shot just fine too. It will become more forgiving in that respect with more rounds fired. I sling shot mine most of the time.
I think the magic # is 30 post and then you can post pictures etc.
Ok, and thanks for the Pic info. As a side note, after 218 rounds through it today the take down lever came out much more easily ;)
Tony
Cubby
11-19-2012, 12:55 PM
After today I'm up to 375 rounds and not any issues! Happy so far. The slide release has even loosened up enough so it doesn't peel the skin off of my thumb!
Harrylee
01-01-2013, 05:48 AM
Cubby I believe you need 30 posts before you can post pictures
muggsy
01-01-2013, 07:53 AM
I would advise against running more than fifty rounds per range trip until the gun is broken in. Clean the gun between range sessions. The more you take the gun down the easier it becomes. Run it wet during the break-in and use the cleanest ammo available. Unless you are acquainted with double action revolvers the long trigger pull takes a little getting used to. If you're a bullseye shooter the sight picture will take a little getting used to. The tendency for most new right handed shooters is to shoot low and left. Read the proper prep of a new Kahr thread. Have fun.
Short Bus
01-01-2013, 08:12 AM
I think the magic # is 30 post and then you can post pictures etc.
I just checked and I posted pics in my 1st post using Photobucket. Have things changed?
skiflydive
01-01-2013, 09:57 AM
By the way, before you ask, that little chip out of the left guide rail is supposed to be there. :) welcome to the forum. :D
JFootin
01-01-2013, 10:47 AM
I just checked and I posted pics in my 1st post using Photobucket. Have things changed?
No. What they are talking about is the old way to add photos to posts, which is part of the forum software. I never learned to use it. I have always use Photobucket, selecting the "Direct link" and pasting it into a post using the picture icon. When copying a picture that is posted somewhere else on the Web, I right click and select "Copy image location."
Tinman507
01-01-2013, 12:30 PM
I do the same J
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