Does anyone else think your CM9/PM9 slide looks... tilted?

[brett_f]

I know this sounds strange. It has to be an optical illusion or my 40 year old eyes or something...

I can't find any defect or ill fitting parts or any issues at all with my CM9. I shot it today for the first time and fired over 200 rounds without a single issue... BUT

Sometimes when I aim and look down the sights... it almost seems as if the slide is tilted slightly to the left. I don't know if it is the way the back of the slide is cut or what.. but it just seems tilted slightly.

Has anyone else felt this way or am I just a little "tilted" myself? :rolleyes:

[jocko]

even it out, tilt ur head to the right and all is well.

[yqtszhj]

My CM9 is good but the wife says my head is lopsided, or is that she is going to slap my head lopsided, I just cant remember.

[TucsonMTB]

Are you wearing progressive focus lenses? Great as they are for older eyes, they introduce the appearance of out of level horizontal objects. I have to take mine off to judge if something is properly plumb. YMMV

[LorenzoB]

Does it appear tilted all the time, or just when you apply some pressure to the trigger? Try dry firing and watch for movement on the slide.

[brett_f]

I don't wear corrective lenses of any kind... Maybe I should!

I don't know if it is the contrast of black and stainless or the jagged appearance of where the frame and slide mate up... maybe the plate of the back of the slide?

This is silly. LOL. I asked a friend and family member and they think I've gone crazy or need my eyes/head checked! :eek:

Anyway - here is a pic from behind the gun. What do you guys think? :o

http://i.imgur.com/xcIFa.jpg

[TucsonMTB]

This is silly. LOL.
True dat! http://home.mindspring.com/~justsomeguy/icon_lol.gif

[Cubby]

Looks OK to me, but I've never been considered "Level Headed" !!!!

[jocko]

looks fine to me. ur getting to picky IMO and worrying about nuttin.t shoot it like u stole it..

[brett_f]

looks fine to me. ur getting to picky IMO and worrying about nuttin.t shoot it like u stole it..

Agreed. :D:D:D:D

[FLBri]

Looks to me like an optical illusion. The gaps of the back plate are larger on the right and this is very typical on Kahrs, especially poly guns. I think it has to do with the way the notches in the poly frames are finished out. The important thing is that the slide rails grab the frame rails correctly. Nothing else really matters. You think way too much like I do!

Force yourself to forget about it for a week, and you will have a whole new perspective.

[brett_f]

Looks to me like an optical illusion. The gaps of the back plate are larger on the right and this is very typical on Kahrs, especially poly guns. I think it has to do with the way the notches in the poly frames are finished out. The important thing is that the slide rails grab the frame rails correctly. Nothing else really matters. You think way too much like I do!

Force yourself to forget about it for a week, and you will have a whole new perspective.

I agree with you. And I think the contrast between the stainless slide and the black frame contributes to the "problem". As you say, the gun is flawless. I just think too much! :D

[MW surveyor]

As you say, the gun is flawless. :D

Just wait until you discover the "chip" in the front rail where the dust cover is! :rolleyes:

[yqtszhj]

looks straight to me. just like mine.

[muggsy]

I don't wear corrective lenses of any kind... Maybe I should!

I don't know if it is the contrast of black and stainless or the jagged appearance of where the frame and slide mate up... maybe the plate of the back of the slide?

This is silly. LOL. I asked a friend and family member and they think I've gone crazy or need my eyes/head checked! :eek:

Anyway - here is a pic from behind the gun. What do you guys think? :o

http://i.imgur.com/xcIFa.jpg

Bret, focus on the front sight and shoot it like you stole it. I think that what you are seeing is an optical illusion. You could check the gun with a square to be sure.

[cw45fan]

I'd say it's just an illusion caused by the normal but unequal levels of the bottom part of the back of the slide.

It's "looks" off... but it's not. If I just cover up the bottom half of the slide with my hand, it breaks up the illusion and it appears totally square. Try it.

[brett_f]

I'd say it's just an illusion caused by the normal but unequal levels of the bottom part of the back of the slide.

It's "looks" off... but it's not. If I just cover up the bottom half of the slide with my hand, it breaks up the illusion and it appears totally square. Try it.

Tried it. You are correct. Definitely an illusion.

I feel silly about having a 2 page thread over this..LOL. :o Thanks for entertaining my obsessive ramblings ya'll. :behindsofa:

[Tinman507]

http://playingintheworldgame.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/optical-illusion-02.gif

[CJB]

I came across this many times in my training and range officer experience, while working at two local ranges.

The issue is easily fixed!

Get a Dr. Scholl's insole, and put it in your left shoe. Thats it!

That little bit of extra elevation on the left side will even things out nicely.

[patbelly]

What about this???
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa386/patbelly/022.jpg

Back plate looks a bit crooked. Kahr CS said this is normal.
400 flawless rounds so far.

[TucsonMTB]

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa386/patbelly/022.jpg

A wise man once said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

However, if you tear down the slide for any other reason, clean up the edges of the back plate before you reassemble. On my PM40 the plate fits so tightly it was nearly impossible to remove the first time. I swear it had been assembled with a rubber hammer, and not a small one either. ;)

Given that it's only purpose is to hold the striker spring and extractor parts in place and it is doing that and you have no scraping of the plastic frame . . . I agree with Kahr CS. If the appearance annoys you, see above.

Just my two cents. I am a 1911 enthusiast and this would not do in that environment, but . . . this is NOT a 1911, so it is acceptable.

[patbelly]

It bothered me until CS said it was normal. And like you said, "If it ain't broke...."
I did take the back plate off to see if it was put in wrong, but that's just the way it fits. Cleaned out the striker channel while I was in there. Also, that little gap made it easier to get the back plate off. No complaints. Shoots like a dream. Thanks for the reply.

[CJB]

it IS normal

the plates have "some slop" or you'd not be able to get 'em out

the little bit of tilt creates an optical delusion....

[7shot]

Everything looks normal...are you hitting what you're aiming at? If so I wouldn't worry about it.

[brett_f]

Everything looks normal...are you hitting what you're aiming at? If so I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes, it's flawless and very accurate. Love it.

[muggsy]

http://playingintheworldgame.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/optical-illusion-02.gif

Not true. I had plenty of sex and still need glasses. Got too close to my work.

[Bawanna]

I'm late on this one but the ops rear plate is just the opposite of Tucsons. Also if you look at the top rear of the slide bevel, it's slight more beveled on the left side than the right.

Not gonna hurt a thing. Forget about it.