Make my day

[jocko]

THIS MAY MAKE YOUR DAY!

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners"and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun. Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals.Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent.."
Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .... it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.

" America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
This makes sense! There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns.

Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way. Sounds reasonable to me! Non-gun owners require more police to protect them and this fee should go to paying for their defense

[340pd]

I wonder what the socialist senator Bernie Sanders has to say about this one?

[Alfonse]

Yeah Jocko, I like the logic of that. It will be fun to see how the "media" deals with it.

[HalfCocked]

This is fantastic on two separate levels. First it it a wonderful idea that makes perfect sense. Second: it is post by Jocko without a single misspelled word or usage error. :D

[getsome]

Whata ya think, Palomino, Pinto or Appaloosa???...:p

[Bawanna]

Makes one question the credibility doesn't it? I'm so conditioned that I think I misspelled some of the words subconciously so I didn't even notice till you mentioned it.

[TucsonMTB]

Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state .... it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation.
One correction to the original author's comments:


1 U.S. States which have implemented Constitutional Carry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#U.S._States_which_have_implem ented_Constitutional_Carry)

1.1 Vermont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Vermont)
1.2 Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Alaska)
1.3 Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Arizona)
1.4 Wyoming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Wyoming)
1.5 Montana (parts of) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Montana_.28parts_of.29)
1.6 Illinois (parts of) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Illinois_.28parts_of.29)
1.7 New Mexico (unloaded) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#New_Mexico_.28unloaded.29)



Vermont may very well have been the first, but is not the only state to implement concealed carry without a permit.

[JERRY]

Id like to know which counties in illinois actually recognize the rkba.

[jocko]

Id like to know which counties in illinois actually recognize the rkba.

I would to.Just sayin

[jocko]

Makes one question the credibility doesn't it? I'm so conditioned that I think I misspelled some of the words subconciously so I didn't even notice till you mentioned it.

what copy and pastecan dofor ones reputation,ain't it. Just :eek:sayin.

[mr surveyor]

isn't that "story" several years old now?

[jocko]

[QUOTE= just the messenger. I received it today, so u could be right to.

[JFootin]

Well, I second that amendment! :D If people want to be sheeple, let them pay a fine because of the additional expense that additional police, jails and losses from crime cause in our society. And, end the careers of politicians like Barbara Boxer who want to turn all of us into sheeple while reserving the right to have armed guards for themselves.

[Armybrat]

[QUOTE= just the messenger. I received it today, so u could be right to.

Then you better upgrade from that Commodore 64 computer.

Just sayin :D

[muggsy]

One correction to the original author's comments:


1 U.S. States which have implemented Constitutional Carry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#U.S._States_which_have_implem ented_Constitutional_Carry)

1.1 Vermont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Vermont)
1.2 Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Alaska)
1.3 Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Arizona)
1.4 Wyoming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Wyoming)
1.5 Montana (parts of) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Montana_.28parts_of.29)
1.6 Illinois (parts of) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Illinois_.28parts_of.29)
1.7 New Mexico (unloaded) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#New_Mexico_.28unloaded.29)



Vermont may very well have been the first, but is not the only state to implement concealed carry without a permit.

I never understood the logic of needing a permit to exercise a right. It's a point over which I have been at odds with the NRA for a long time. If the right to keep and bear arms is a God given constitutional right, why do I need a permit to carry. Permits can be taken away. I hope that the issue gets decided by the Supreme Court before it's remodeled any further by Obama.

[muggsy]

Makes one question the credibility doesn't it? I'm so conditioned that I think I misspelled some of the words subconciously so I didn't even notice till you mentioned it.

Smile when you say that pardner. You guy's had better stop pickin' on my old buddy, Jocko. There's no limit to the number of horse heads he can deliver. :)

[O'Dell]

[QUOTE=jocko;201201]

Then you better upgrade from that Commodore 64 computer.

Just sayin :D

I will NEVER give up my Commodore 64!!!!! It still works fine, although I can't remember a command to get beyond "Ready _[Blink,Blink, Blink]"

[jocko]

actually I had no idea what the commdore 64 even was. I have a kabani 92 tower and a 88" shizado screen. Works great for me.. Just sayin

[Bawanna]

I have no idea what he just said.

[getsome]

Ain't it funny how yesterdays Gee Wiz thats the coolest better than a wet T-Shirt contest in January electronic gizmo thingy I've ever seen soon turns into just another heavy plastic coated piece of junk....

I'm 55 now and if the Lord blesses me with another 25 years to live I'm afraid of what we will see with technology...I'm still not giving up my dumb cell phone with the dial on it though, I don't care what anybody says!!!!

[jocko]

I have no idea what he just said.

it is alittle over technical for you but I am sure O'
dell knows and JFootin and Muggsy and downtown Just sayin

[Bawanna]

Most everything is slightly over technical and over my head but I'm not very tall ya know?

I do have a Android? with 4g's that I turned off so it would last all day. Don't know how to do much with it but can I hang out with the smart folk now and then anyhow?

You know what they say, if you want to look skinny, stand next to a fat person, if you want to look smart, stand next to a stoopid person. That would be me.

[LorenzoB]

......I'm still not giving up my dumb cell phone with the dial on it though, I don't care what anybody says!!!!

How about one of these phones for ya?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/287?

[RRP]

~
I do have a Android?
~

Have you tried Preparation H?

[Bawanna]

Yeah but it's some of the worst tasting stuff I've ever tasted. Didn't seem to work either.

[RRP]

Yeah but it's some of the worst tasting stuff I've ever tasted. Didn't seem to work either.

Silly boy. It's for external use only. That's why I always eat it outdoors.

[Bawanna]

Does it shrink your tongue if you eat it outside?

[chrish]

I never understood the logic of needing a permit to exercise a right. It's a point over which I have been at odds with the NRA for a long time. If the right to keep and bear arms is a God given constitutional right, why do I need a permit to carry. Permits can be taken away. I hope that the issue gets decided by the Supreme Court before it's remodeled any further by Obama.

You said it!

I mean, you _sorta_ need a permit to assemble in some (limited) cases, but you can bet your sweet (or sour) butt that if the government tried to require people to get a permit for every single time somebody wanted to stand out on the street corner and exercise their 1A right, or a permit to go to their liberal agenda church, they'd be screaming bloody murder.

Liberals and gun control whack-jobs talk out of both sides of their mouth. As do some on the right, just not as many.

[TucsonMTB]

How about one of these phones for ya?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/287?
https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/images/products/2/8/7/PortORotaryRED-01-L_i_ma.jpg

Awesome! Wish Verizon used SIM cards . . . this would be FUN! :D

[mr surveyor]

my office phone....

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/cowpi/StumpwaterExchange.jpg


sure is hard to ring up an operator now....and besides, I don't speak very good Indian talk (dot...not feather)

[Bawanna]

https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/images/products/2/8/7/PortORotaryRED-01-L_i_ma.jpg

Awesome! Wish Verizon used SIM cards . . . this would be FUN! :D

Believe it or not there's a gun shop up in Oak Harbor "Greens" and they have an old rotary dial phone on the end of the counter.

Mom works the counter or did when I was last there a few years back. She still used it. Had a push button she hated in the back that they had to have because some vendors you had to push numbers for extensions and stuff and the dial wouldn't do it.

I love that shop, about a 1/4" of dust on everything, real small, has an outdoor range out back. A rocking chair in each of the 4 or 5 aisles in the store. Nice.

[jocko]

sounds like my ol business. We had an old coke cooler that just cooled water so the bottles set in there like little heart ons.(7 oz size) Back then coke bottles had the name of the bottle maker on the bottom and we used to at times draw bottles and the one that was the farthest away bought.We rolled it outside every day and then rolled it back insdie every evening.. Our bottle cases back then was all wood to.
damn those were the good ol days.

[OldLincoln]

One correction to the original author's comments:


1 U.S. States which have implemented Constitutional Carry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#U.S._States_which_have_implem ented_Constitutional_Carry)

1.1 Vermont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Vermont)
1.2 Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Alaska)
1.3 Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Arizona)
1.4 Wyoming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Wyoming)
1.5 Montana (parts of) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Montana_.28parts_of.29)
1.6 Illinois (parts of) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#Illinois_.28parts_of.29)
1.7 New Mexico (unloaded) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#New_Mexico_.28unloaded.29)
1.8 Kalifornia (NOT)



Vermont may very well have been the first, but is not the only state to implement concealed carry without a permit.

You forgot California... or have we already seceded? :rolleyes:

[TucsonMTB]

You forgot California... or have we already seceded? :rolleyes:
Believe it or not, that's from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Carry#U.S._States_which_have_implem ented_Constitutional_Carry) and does not list Kalifornia. :rolleyes: Go figure.

[Armybrat]

How about one of these phones for ya?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/287?

I got sumthin' better than that on my gun safe:

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/Armybrat2/Spring2012031.jpg


My Grandpa whittled that wood candlestick phone on the left in the 1930s - he owned & ran a small rural telephone company starting in WWI that was entirely battery operated.
When the town was electrified, he disconnected the battery boxes off all the wall telephones.

[LorenzoB]

Wow, that is really cool!
Nice safe too.

[les strat]

I never understood the logic of needing a permit to exercise a right. It's a point over which I have been at odds with the NRA for a long time. If the right to keep and bear arms is a God given constitutional right, why do I need a permit to carry. Permits can be taken away. I hope that the issue gets decided by the Supreme Court before it's remodeled any further by Obama.

My thoughts as well. Permit = you have to have permission. The last time I looked, the Bill of Rights was the only OK I needed to carry.

[Armybrat]

I've been telling my liberal friends that since they don't believe a photo ID is necessary to vote, then I shouldn't have to show one to buy a gun or carry it.

That gets their hackles up. lol

[Bawanna]

I've been telling my liberal friends that since they don't believe a photo ID is necessary to vote, then I shouldn't have to show one to buy a gun or carry it.

That gets their hackles up. lol

You have liberal friends? I'm sorry to hear that.

[Barth]

I got sumthin' better than that on my gun safe:

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w349/ScoPro/Armybrat2/Spring2012031.jpg


My Grandpa whittled that wood candlestick phone on the left in the 1930s - he owned & ran a small rural telephone company starting in WWI that was entirely battery operated.
When the town was electrified, he disconnected the battery boxes off all the wall telephones.

Is that how you call Jocko?

[JERRY]

i know some liberals, but they are neither my friends nor associates.

[Tinman507]

Is that how you call Jocko?

http://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/images/smoke-signal-1905.jpg

[Bawanna]

Figures, party line smoke signal with no whiskey!

[Tinman507]

http://kookykitsch.com/Portals/0/productimages/3518_0c3d3.jpg

[jocko]

I don't have any phone, u see I have no friends

[Tinman507]

I'll be your friend

[jocko]

wow, that made by day!!! Just sayin

U also need help to.

[Tinman507]

Won't you be my neighbor?

http://www.snappynewday.com/wp-content/gallery/Rogers/mister-rogers.jpg