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KahrOnTheFly
12-02-2012, 12:44 AM
... and now, as my CC pistol.

So the story begins with me purchasing a PM9 (black w/ night sights) and high hopes for an impeccably reliable pistol as many of you have experienced. Well, my "break-in" session turned out to reveal a "brok-en" pistol. When the slide cycled reward after discharge, it would bind at the rear and jam the slide in the open position. The slide lock was NOT involved in holding the slide back in the open position. And actually, the slide was further back than the slide lock detent and the slide was binding somewhere against the frame / barrel. It first happened about every 5-6 rounds... I was hoping that this might be part of the break-in process. To my dismay, it got worse and worse. By the time I had about 40 labored rounds through the pistol, it was happening EVERY round. UGH! It would return to battery only if I were to knock the back of the slide forward with my palm. My denial finally crashed and I realized that I had a defective pistol. I was deflated...

So, I contacted Kahr and they instructed me to return the pistol immediately on their shipping dime. I received their shipping RMA and FedEx label via email on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. I was concerned about shipping a gun before a holiday weekend, for fear of it sitting somewhere unattended until the following Monday. They assured me that it would be received properly, despite it being the holiday weekend. Also, I communicated that I really needed it back in my possession before my qualification appointment on Dec. 11th. Kahr assured me that they would have it back to me by Dec. 6th, giving me time to properly break-in the pistol.

Well, on the Monday following the Thanksgiving weekend (yes, this past Monday), I missed a "signature required" delivery from FedEx. It did not even cross my mind that it could be from Kahr. The next day, FedEx redelivered the package and, to my surprise, it was my PM9!!! The gunsmiths at Kahr must have worked during the holiday weekend to repair my pistol. I am amazed.

The repair summary stated, "INSPECTED. REPLACED BARREL. LUBED. TEST FIRED GOOD." When I inspected the barrel, I see that they did indeed replace my barrel with a "shinier one" and,... AND!, the entire feed ramp and chamber was polished to a mirror-like finish. So, I did the recommended (on this forum) "prep" on the pistol and headed to the range today to break-in my PM9. Honestly, I was nervous about the outcome...

I almost cringed as the first round went off and had to take a long stare at the slide to see if it had returned to battery. YES! And, I am happy (relieved) to say that it had ZERO malfunctions through my entire session. I fired 100 rounds of WWB FMJ, 100 rounds of Federal FMJ, 100 rounds of Independence FMJ, and 40 rounds of HPR JHP. 100% performance. After about 200 rounds, I began to "challenge" the pistol by rapid firing entire magazines, shooting off-hand, single-hand, etc. Admittedly, I even tried "limp-wristing" it to see if I could make it fail. It shot every round without failure. YEAH!

So in final, I must say that I am completely satisfied and impressed with Kahr as a company, along with their commitment to standing behind their product. I understand that it is always possible to get a bad copy, but then the ball is in the manufacturer's lap to respond and perform, or lose a customer for life. Well, in my case their lightning fast response and repair (even during the holiday weekend), showed me that they truly CARE about their reputation and, most importantly, their customers. As a parting comment,... I am already shopping for my next Kahr! :)

jocko
12-02-2012, 07:11 AM
this outta be a sticky.Just sayin.

excellent report.on ur part and on kahrs part.

FLBri
12-02-2012, 07:17 AM
Congrats KOTF. You have a winner. The PM9/CM9platform is one of Kahr's best and though I am certainly vocal about some of the QC issues they have, I am equally as vocal about their dedication to getting their customer service right.

My experience is that if you communicate articulately, accurately, and professionally ... you will get their best in return.

RRP
12-02-2012, 07:18 AM
Very nicely written, KahrOnTheFly!

Your experience supports my contention that clear, concise and polite dialog with Kahr customer service yields an outstanding response.

RRP
12-02-2012, 07:20 AM
Your experience supports my contention that clear, concise and polite dialog with Kahr customer service yields an outstanding response.



My experience is that if you communicate articulately, accurately, and professionally ... you will get their best in return.

Seems we are on the same wavelength.

Bill K
12-02-2012, 07:28 AM
Glad to read that Kahr came through and it all worked out for you. Also had issues with my new PM9 but help here and a part from Kahr had me up and running in pretty short order.

LorenzoB
12-02-2012, 09:12 AM
Very cool. I'm glad it turned out so good, and that Kahr shined through on this one.

P.S. It sure is fun to put a good gun through its paces! :D

Tinman507
12-02-2012, 09:55 AM
My experience is that if you communicate articulately, accurately, and professionally ... you will get their best in return.

THIS should be a sticky.

Longitude Zero
12-02-2012, 10:40 AM
I have never had to return any of mine but I know folks who have and had identical experiences to yours.

JFootin
12-02-2012, 10:44 AM
I am not waiting for it to be a sticky. I am going to subscribe to it and stick it in folder for quick reference. ;)

dkmatthews
12-02-2012, 01:22 PM
I'm proud to hear this, but also grateful that my Kahr experiences have never included a failure.

Carry on, good sir.

godan
12-02-2012, 04:24 PM
I bought some Kahrs and a Sig at about the same time. Everything about the Kahr --the website, communication, technical information, parts availability and good manners -- is excellent. Perhaps Kahr's really fine corporate competence makes Sig look worse than it is, but Sig is abysmal in any context; no easy-to-use parts lists, no website ordering, no email communication with service reps, no 800 number and parts either on back order or unavailable entirely. If Kahr can do it, everybody can. Failing to meet Kahr's admittedly high standard says much about the value, or lack of it, a company places on its customers.

CJB
12-02-2012, 08:23 PM
They pretty much get it right.

KahrOnTheFly
12-03-2012, 10:59 PM
... this is why I have joined this board and, honestly, "lurked" on this board researching for months before the purchase of this PM9. So, I give credit to all of you who provide great information and feedback on this forum. What a great resource for a Kahr owner. In return, I will do my best to contribute equally as I make my journey further into the "life of Kahr!" :D Shoot ON!