Gun ownership questions on medical forms

[Allen]

I recently read on the Internet that some doctor's medical forms have started asking if "you have any guns in your house?"
Also, VA forms ask: "Do you feel distressed? Do you feel threatened? Do you feel like doing harm to anyone?" If you answered yes to any of these questions you could lose your concealed carry permit as the VA would report this to Homeland Security.
And under Obamacare the Government will have access to our medical records. I've also read that the Obama administration considers all VA members and gun owners as potential terrorist. SO GUN OWNERS BE FORWARNED

Anyone else seen or read anything like this or is someone on the Internet just blowing smoke and pulling our leg?

This is just what I've read on the Internet and as the one ad states "they don't put anything on the Internet that's not true".

[mr surveyor]

about 5 years ago I had to fill out all the paper work (again) to see my doc for a routine physical. It seems that every time these doctors are forced to move their practice to a new umbrella medical corporation that the patient/doctor relationship has to start over. I was pretty surprised to see the long form with a whole lot of "non-medical" personal questions, including several pertaining to firearms. Instead of the usual, tough guy responses I had seen the internet commandos say they wrote on the forms, I just wrote "N/A" for my answer, and had no problem getting in to see the doc. I mentioned my dislike for the "new forms", and he was in total agreement. We then spent 5 minutes on my "physical", and the next 10 minutes talking guns. I guess it's all worked out well over the last 5 years, as this year I had to once again re-register and had absolutely no personal/non-medical related questions. This time was 5 minutes for the mandatory visit, and 15 minutes of him telling me about he and his wife applying cor theit carry permits.

That data base is NOT being constructed just for/about veterans, although the vets are certainly targets as the fed can and will hold them hostage to their medical care.

[QuercusMax]

The gun ownership question on a medical assessment form is almost certainly not there for the sinister intent that conspiracy theorists on the internet imagine.

It has become quite popular lately for doctors and insurance providers to do a "health risk assessment" as part of being admitted to a doctor's practice and/or as part of new or ongoing health insurance.

Part of the procedure is to try to identify various potential health risks, and gun ownership thought to be one of them. Anyone who has ever filled out the type of form that I am talking about will have answered a variety of other questions such as do you smoke, do you ever drive over the speed limit, do you ever feel down, have you ever driven after having a few drinks, etc. There is no standard for these forms, so the questions often vary, but the intent is to try to identify other potential risks to the patient's well-being.

My recommendation on the gun ownership question is just to say "no," that you don't own any. Saying anything else might just raise some kind of red flag.

To clear up another point, while the Obamacare legislation does create incentives and non-compliance penalties for healthcare providers to create electronic healthcare records that can be interchanged among healthcare providers (to allow a new provider to get your old information if you move or change providers), it does not mandate or even foresee a national database of all that info, especially one for the government to use. At least not yet.

[muggsy]

On my forms I wrote NYFB in answer to those questions. NYFB is similar to answering N/A but a bit more pointed. :)

[QuercusMax]

It is none of my business how anyone else answers a question of this type, but I will point out that answering this question in any unusual way as a form of protest might make one feel good, but doing so has no upside and might only serve to attract exactly the type of attention you really don't want.

For the same reason, I recommend against attention-getting things like controversial bumper stickers or open carry.

[Bawanna]

Your such a rabble rouser Muggsy. I love you man!

[Popeye]

I recently changed family doctors and the question of gun ownership was on there I just left it as N/A. I'm not giving them any info they do not need to know.

[Fredr500]

1)Call your wife. Tell her that you are now giving her all of your guns. And ammo. Hope she enjoys them.
2)fill out the form, honestly.
3)call your wife, ask her if she wants to give you anything.
4)if she says no, stop by the LGS on your way home and restock.
5)sleep well, knowing that you honestly answered the question.

[mr surveyor]

I don't go to a "doctor" to get their version of a "health risk assessment". I'm a big boy now, so I no longer need a nanny.

[Bawanna]

I've been wearing big boy pants for a few years now but my wife says I'm still not a big boy. Wench!

[getsome]

I have never been asked to fill out any paperwork with those types of questions so far....What I do is when I get in the exam room or Dentist's chair is unholster my 1911 and lay it on the Doctors or Dentists counter while they work on me...Funny neither guy has ever hurt me yet and it sure cuts out any small talk or stupid questions!!!...:cool:

[Bawanna]

I don't unholster but I do grab the dentist by the cajones and advise if I hurt, he hurts too.

Did get a lovely female dentist once which really tripped me up, I was completely stumped. Maybe I wanted her to hurt me?

By the time I got another toothache, quick as I could, she had moved on and never saw her again. She was a very pretty dentist.

[getsome]

Like Sheriff Buford T. Justice said in Smokey and the Bandet "Son thats just a little attention getter"...:eek:

[Allen]

Thanks for all the replys. Guess a "NO" is probably the best answer, unless we could write "not in the house, it's on my waist under my shirt" (just kidding).

But I have read that according to NY's former Lt. Governor, Betsy McCaughey, supposedly one of the few people who have read and analysed Obamacare, that on pages 58 & 59 the gov't will have real time access to an individual's bank account and have the authority to make electronic transfers from it. If this is true I imagine our medical information isn't far behind if not already in there someplace. I'm sure the Administration is headed to disarm America any way it can.

[les strat]

The gun ownership question on a medical assessment form is almost certainly not there for the sinister intent that conspiracy theorists on the internet imagine.

It has become quite popular lately for doctors and insurance providers to do a "health risk assessment" as part of being admitted to a doctor's practice and/or as part of new or ongoing health insurance.

Part of the procedure is to try to identify various potential health risks, and gun ownership thought to be one of them. Anyone who has ever filled out the type of form that I am talking about will have answered a variety of other questions such as do you smoke, do you ever drive over the speed limit, do you ever feel down, have you ever driven after having a few drinks, etc. There is no standard for these forms, so the questions often vary, but the intent is to try to identify other potential risks to the patient's well-being.

My recommendation on the gun ownership question is just to say "no," that you don't own any. Saying anything else might just raise some kind of red flag.

To clear up another point, while the Obamacare legislation does create incentives and non-compliance penalties for healthcare providers to create electronic healthcare records that can be interchanged among healthcare providers (to allow a new provider to get your old information if you move or change providers), it does not mandate or even foresee a national database of all that info, especially one for the government to use. At least not yet.


And the dumbest thing is, the simple question of "Do you ever ride in an automobile?" is not asked, which is the most deadly risk you take.

There are something that, as Muggsy said, is NTFB. My gun ownership is one of them.

[Alfonse]

The gun ownership question on a medical assessment form is almost certainly not there for the sinister intent that conspiracy theorists on the internet imagine.

It has become quite popular lately for doctors and insurance providers to do a "health risk assessment" as part of being admitted to a doctor's practice and/or as part of new or ongoing health insurance.

Part of the procedure is to try to identify various potential health risks, and gun ownership thought to be one of them. Anyone who has ever filled out the type of form that I am talking about will have answered a variety of other questions such as do you smoke, do you ever drive over the speed limit, do you ever feel down, have you ever driven after having a few drinks, etc. There is no standard for these forms, so the questions often vary, but the intent is to try to identify other potential risks to the patient's well-being.

My recommendation on the gun ownership question is just to say "no," that you don't own any. Saying anything else might just raise some kind of red flag.

To clear up another point, while the Obamacare legislation does create incentives and non-compliance penalties for healthcare providers to create electronic healthcare records that can be interchanged among healthcare providers (to allow a new provider to get your old information if you move or change providers), it does not mandate or even foresee a national database of all that info, especially one for the government to use. At least not yet.

Eventually they have the question "have you ever answered a question on a medical form with an incorrect answer."

[TheTman]

At my Dr. visit last month, he had some questions about depression and stuff, I said I felt fine. No gun questions...yet.

[XD40SC]

1)Call your wife. Tell her that you are now giving her all of your guns. And ammo. Hope she enjoys them.
2)fill out the form, honestly.
3)call your wife, ask her if she wants to give you anything.
4)if she says no, stop by the LGS on your way home and restock.
5)sleep well, knowing that you honestly answered the question.

WINNER! Best answer, frikin' hilarous!





BTW, I asked and my wife said she'd answer yes to #4. :mad:

[Planedude]

I would answer BOXERS... it's that personel a question and there really is no right/wrong answer. You just have really wrong questions.;)

[LorenzoB]

"Are there guns in your home?" was on some form when we were recently having our baby. I said "no". The first person that officially needs to know the truthful answer to that question will be wishing he didn't threaten me or my family.

[downtownv]

I've been wearing big boy pants for a few years now but my wife says I'm still not a big boy. Wench!

Hope your not at that "Depends" Stage:rolleyes: